This address is in 20th Ward. For future reference, look at the "Street & Avenue Directory" appendix in the Trow's Directory to get the cross streets on either side of your address - in this case, 7th and 8th Avenues. Some, but not all, microfilmings of the Trow's Directories include the Manhattan street map which shows the Wards. These were fold-out maps published in each copy of the directory, but some obviously got ripped out and were lost over the years. Regards, Charles Sullivan hotairboard@worldnet.att.net wrote: >Hi, >I haven't posted to this mailing list in a long time. I am going up to >NARA in Pittsfield on this Wednesday and I am looking up my >Great-great-grandfather on the 1860 Census.I finally had a break and >found his house address on the Trow N.Y.City Directory for 1862-1863. I >believe it is in Manhattan, but I don't have a ward # for the address. >The address is 169th-W.29th does anyone know where this is? And could >anyone tell me the Ward #. Thank you in advance for your help.Finding >the Hartner's the very hard way!! >Truly, >Carol > > >==== GEN-NYS Mailing List ==== >Have you seen the USGenWeb New York Page? > http://www.rootsweb.com/~nygenweb/

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Hi, I haven't posted to this mailing list in a long time. I am going up to NARA in Pittsfield on this Wednesday and I am looking up my Great-great-grandfather on the 1860 Census.I finally had a break and found his house address on the Trow N.Y.City Directory for 1862-1863. I believe it is in Manhattan, but I don't have a ward # for the address. The address is 169th-W.29th does anyone know where this is? And could anyone tell me the Ward #. Thank you in advance for your help.Finding the Hartner's the very hard way!! Truly, Carol

When I was a kid they said there was one in Troy, Marshall's Sanitarium. Judy P.

Wanda, if that isn't the hosp. you were looking for, I believe there was one in Ogdensburg, Rosemary -----Original Message----- From: Wanda <SunWolf@WolfEmail.com> To: GEN-NYS-L@rootsweb.com <GEN-NYS-L@rootsweb.com> Date: Sunday, October 31, 1999 10:21 AM Subject: State Hospital >Hi, > Looking for the Address of the NY State Hospital for the Insane. Was >there only one? this may have been near Poughkeepsie, NY and the date >would be 1929 this appears to be where my Grandmother died... and I'm >looking for her medical records and Death Certificate. > >Does any one here have any input... the records may long since be gone >but at this point it is worth a try.. Thanks. > >Wanda > > > >==== GEN-NYS Mailing List ==== >Have you considered joining the Rootsweb Genealogical Data >Cooperative? > http://www.rootsweb.com/ > >

Wanda, There is still a Hudson River State Hospital on Route 9 in Poughkeepsie. Perhaps this is the one you are seeking. Carolyn Mussina Seaman <ber00163@berk.com> -----Original Message----- From: Wanda [mailto:SunWolf@WolfEmail.com] Sent: Sunday, October 31, 1999 12:16 PM To: GEN-NYS-L@rootsweb.com Subject: State Hospital Hi, Looking for the Address of the NY State Hospital for the Insane. Was there only one? this may have been near Poughkeepsie, NY and the date would be 1929 this appears to be where my Grandmother died... and I'm looking for her medical records and Death Certificate. Does any one here have any input... the records may long since be gone but at this point it is worth a try.. Thanks. Wanda ==== GEN-NYS Mailing List ==== Have you considered joining the Rootsweb Genealogical Data Cooperative? http://www.rootsweb.com/

Hi, Looking for the Address of the NY State Hospital for the Insane. Was there only one? this may have been near Poughkeepsie, NY and the date would be 1929 this appears to be where my Grandmother died... and I'm looking for her medical records and Death Certificate. Does any one here have any input... the records may long since be gone but at this point it is worth a try.. Thanks. Wanda

Hi all, Hadn't planned to comment onthis thread, but just bumped into some info on the "Civil War Soldiers in Madison Co." Cardner, Ephraim N. DeRuyter Co. M, Oneida Ind. Cav. b. 9/12/44 Cardner, William H. 19 DeRuyter Co. H, 114th NYSV b. 7/6/42 There is also Gardners Gardner, Charles W 19 Eaton Co. F, 176th NYSV d. 7/18/63 d. at Brashear City, La, buried in Eaton Cem. Gardner, John E. 31 Oneida Co. L, 1st NY Mounted Rifles Gardner, William C. 19 Hamilton 1st Sgt. Co. D, 26th NYSV Gardner, William R. 26 Brookfield Co. D, 189th NYSV Hope this is of some use, should be good for sending for military service records, if any of the names click. Good Luck, Alice in AZ

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Hi all, It has taken longer than I wanted but the almost 900 page Portrait & Biographical Album of Livingston & Ingham Counties Michigan is now up for your research uses. I do have a partial index up and am in the process of creating an all name & place index which should help people that are not sure if their people came through this area or not. There are virtually hundreds of references to NY and probably 20 states. The Presidential bios are not up yet as they are supposed to be linked to another P & B that is supposed to go on line shortly, I hope.... You can access the book through the LivGenMI site below or go directly to the book with the url below: http://www.LivGenMI.com/PBtitle.htm I had tried to add in a search engine but sadly because the site is so huge, almost 2.4 gigabytes the one I chose will not cover the entire site so I am now searching for another one that will work. If anyone has any suggestions, please let me know. We have also added hundreds more marriage records in our effort to get them all up through the 1930's. Dianne Richards gets the credit for the fantastic job she is doing with those. Next up plat map atlases for 1975, 1895, 1915 and maybe even a few more. Have a good one!!! http://www.LivGenMI.com Home of the 1895 atlas http://www.ChaseNEgw.com Home of the 1891 Shippers Dispatch Gazatteer If you use any of the above or any of the hundreds of bits of information I have put on the net for you.....Your Obligation is to complete your "Hug Homework"! Pam - List Lady prietsch@ismi.net

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Hi, Will the person who asked about the Shaver-Barringer marriage, please send me the information again as I seem to have lost it. Then I can look in my Barringer file. Barbara jeffribm@yahoo.com ===== __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Bid and sell for free at http://auctions.yahoo.com

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Well, ya got me! The only reason I can think of is renewing their vows, perhaps within a different religion. Or, if there was some property dispute and they couldn't prove they were married to begin with (it wasn't like you could just mail off a request to the MA back in the 1850's or a church, for that matter). It was probably easier just to remarry. Odd, but you never know... Best regards. Nancy. NColeman ncroots@worldnet.att.net NYC/Long Island Family History Research Services: http://www.genealogyPro.com/ncoleman.html County Coordinator for the Nassau GenExchange: http://www.genexchange.com/ny/nassau/index.cfm Irish Family History Forum www.ifhf.org -----Original Message----- From: Roder Sadler <sadler@chesapeake.net> To: GEN-NYS-L@rootsweb.com <GEN-NYS-L@rootsweb.com> Date: Friday, October 29, 1999 6:34 PM Subject: Ormandy marriage Hi all you helpful people. The tid bits of information that you folks seem to generate are endless. I'm hoping that you folks could help me to explain the following: Thomas and Sarah Ormandy got married in Åugust 1845 in London England. They had 3 children that were born in England. They moved to Utica, NY and had a duaghter, Victoria Ormandy born in 1851. In 1852, Thomas and Sarah then got remarried in Rome NY on June 13, 1852. Does anyone know why a family would do this remarriage thing in the mid-1850's? Was this a common practice? Thank you in advance Kathy Sadler ==== GEN-NYS Mailing List ==== Have you considered joining the Rootsweb Genealogical Data Cooperative? http://www.rootsweb.com/

Hi all, I was just told that my gggggreatgrandfather was a member of the Scotish Rights Mason's. How would i go about finding where or when he became a member or where for sure he joined?? Can anyone tell me if they have a chapter in Crown Point, NY? If so what is their address? Any help would be greatly appreciated. Thank you in advance. Cindi Grant Newport, WA cagrant@triax.com

The web address is at the bottom of this message copied directly from thier site - it does provide you with individual name searchs - but you can find out what records are kept, where they are kept and contact information - including email and phone numbers. It is not just a NEW YORK Site. Maybe this will help one of you with at least some contact inforamtion " The U.S. Catholic Historical Society (USCHS) has developed a virtual site of the U.S. Catholic Documentary Heritage Project (USCDHP). The aim is to provide an online guide to repositories and collections of primary sources documenting the history of Catholicism in the United States. The US Catholic Heritage Documentary Project provides basic information on Catholic archival repositories and collections on the Internet through The United States Catholic Historical Society and with the assistance of Catholic Online. Currently, this database consists of 291 Catholic archival institutions. This data is updated monthly as new information is received from other repositories." http://www.catholic.org/uschs/ Edward Sinker wrote: > Carole wrote: > > >Would anyone have the full address for the Trinity Church in New York City? > >I understand they have a Archives Dept., who would I address that too and > >has anyone gone that route for information and had good results? > > I believe their look-up service is quite expensive. I haven't used > it myself. Some of my Minugh relations are buried there. Some > of the stones are still there from the late 1700s & early 1800s. > > Try contacting Jessica Silver E-mail: jsilver@trinitywallstreet.org > She is from the Office of Market Planning and Communications, > 74 Trinity Place, New York, NY 10006-2088. > Tel: (212) 602-9676 > Fax: (212) 602-9675 > > That name and email address dates from May 1998, so I am not > positive if it is still working. - Ed > > Edward Coates Sinker > Church Lea > Bosbury, Herefordshire HR8 1PX > UK > > ==== GEN-NYS Mailing List ==== > Have you considered joining the Rootsweb Genealogical Data > Cooperative? > http://www.rootsweb.com/

These are notes that I collected from everyone that has responded about Elizabeth "Liddie" Hornbeck. Take a look and make any comments. We can discuss this and see what else we can come up with on this early Dutch Pioneer lady. Jay --------------------- From: Sandi <KinSeeker7@aol.com> I have only two HORNBECKs so far, and some say the name was spelled HORNBEEK in some records. I'll post the info below. Descendants of Johannes "John" Hornbeck 1 Johannes "John" HORNBECK b: April 20, 1685 +Osseltje Ursula WESTBROOK b: March 07, 1696/97 2 Elizabeth HORNBECK b: May 13, 1722 Kingston, Ulster Co.,NY d: Moorefield, Augusta Co., VA - -------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "David Patton" <patton@eskimo.com> Descendants of Johannes "John" Hornbeck Generation No. 1 1. JOHANNES "JOHN"3 HORNBECK (WARNAAR2 VAN HOORNBEECK, JOOS1 VAN HOORNBEECKE) was born May 08, 1685 in Hurley, Ulster, NY, and died 1767 in Hampshire Co. VA. He married ORSELTJEN (URSELJE) URSULA WESTBROEK August 12, 1716 in Kingston, Ulster Co. NY. Children of JOHANNES HORNBECK and ORSELTJEN WESTBROEK are: i. BENJAMIN4 HORNBECK, b. 1717, Kingston, Ulster Co. NY; d. 1804, Unknown. ii. ANNAATJEN HORNBECK, b. July 15, 1718, Kingston, Ulster Co. NY; d. Unknown, Unknown; m. JEEMS SIMSON, April 09, 1738, Kingston, Ulster Co. NY. iii. RICHARD (DIRK) HORNBECK, b. January 10, 1719/20, Kingston, Ulster Co. NY; d. Unknown, Unknown; m. JENNEKE OOSTERHOUT, Unknown, Kingston, Ulster Co. NY. iv. ELIZABETH HORNBECK, b. May 13, 1722, Kingston, Ulster Co. NY; d. Unknown, Unknown; m. HENDRICK CUTRIGHT, December 28, 1739, Kingston, Ulster Co. NY. 2. v. DANIEL HORNBECK, b. September 25, 1726, Kingston, Ulster Co. NY; d. Abt. 1778, Hampshire Co. VA. vi. SAMUEL HORNBECK, b. Abt. 1728, Kingston, Ulster Co. NY; d. November 15, 1815, Bourbon Co. KY; m. DOROTHEA "DOLLY" HARNESS, 1762, Hampshire Co. VA. vii. JONATHAN HORNBECK, b. February 01, 1729/30, Kingston, Ulster Co. NY; d. Abt. 1758, Killed by Indians during the Fort Seybert Massacre siege; m. SARAH VERNOY, September 21, 1751, Wawarsing, Ulster, NY. viii. ISAAC HORNBECK, b. September 17, 1732, Kingston, Ulster Co. NY; d. February 19, 1799, Bullitt Co. KY. ix. ABRAHAM HORNBECK, b. September 17, 1732, Kingston, Ulster Co. NY; d. 1758, Killed by Indians during the Fort Seybert Massacre siege; m. CATHERINE TERWILGE, Unknown, Unknown. x. ELEANOR (LENA) HORNBECK, b. February 10, 1733/34, Kingston, Ulster Co. NY; d. Unknown, Unknown; m. CORNELIUS CUTTERACT. - --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Shirley Hornbeck <hornbeck@s-hornbeck.com> To answer the question about Elizabeth Hornbeck (wife of Hendrick Cutright) - as far as I know, ALL of Elizabeth Hornbeck's brothers went to the Valley. (This would be The South Branch of the Potomac Valley) - --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- >From Carol Scior Information which I have show that Hendrick Cutrack (Cortregt) married Elizabeth Hornbeck at Kingston, NY on 28 Dec 1739. Their children are listed as Charity Cutright who married Samuel Pringle, Benjamin Cutright who married Catherine Wolfe and John Cutright who married Rebecca Truby. >From this information it would seem that this Hendrick is not the father of my John Cutright who married Elizabeth Subre. In answer to your question about Elizabeth Subre's parents, I have nothing on her at all. - -------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Shirley Hornbeck <hornbeck@s-hornbeck.com> I would like to point out that a second son named Benjamin born to Johannes Hornbeck and Orseltjen Westbroek is only a probability and is not proven. A Benjamin was baptized 19 May 1717 and he may have died young as they named a second son Benjamin and he was baptised on Jun 28, 1724. This is probably the Benjamin who married Janneke Kortright. Source: Ulster Co. baptismal records. Thank you all who posted information. Jay

Carole wrote: >Would anyone have the full address for the Trinity Church in New York City? >I understand they have a Archives Dept., who would I address that too and >has anyone gone that route for information and had good results? I believe their look-up service is quite expensive. I haven't used it myself. Some of my Minugh relations are buried there. Some of the stones are still there from the late 1700s & early 1800s. Try contacting Jessica Silver E-mail: jsilver@trinitywallstreet.org She is from the Office of Market Planning and Communications, 74 Trinity Place, New York, NY 10006-2088. Tel: (212) 602-9676 Fax: (212) 602-9675 That name and email address dates from May 1998, so I am not positive if it is still working. - Ed Edward Coates Sinker Church Lea Bosbury, Herefordshire HR8 1PX UK

Hi all you helpful people. The tid bits of information that you folks seem to generate are endless. I'm hoping that you folks could help me to explain the following: Thomas and Sarah Ormandy got married in Åugust 1845 in London England. They had 3 children that were born in England. They moved to Utica, NY and had a duaghter, Victoria Ormandy born in 1851. In 1852, Thomas and Sarah then got remarried in Rome NY on June 13, 1852. Does anyone know why a family would do this remarriage thing in the mid-1850's? Was this a common practice? Thank you in advance Kathy Sadler

Would anyone have the full address for the Trinity Church in New York City? I understand they have a Archives Dept., who would I address that too and has anyone gone that route for information and had good results? Thankyou Carole Ontario Canada