My g-grandfather immigrated to America from Germany in 1869. I understand he automatically became an american citizen. Does this mean there are naturalization papers on him? I found my g-grandfather in the book "Germans to America". On the top of the page it had Germany - Switzerland. I'm assuming he went from Switzerland to Germany. Am I right? If so, what would have been the usual mode of travel? Thank you for any help you can give me. Barb

Hi, My Great-Grandfather, PHILO KENDALL, was born in Vermont in 1837. I am trying to find out his parents names, and I have reason to believe that the family lived in NEW YORK after PHILO was born. PHILO also lived in WISCONSIN, where he met and married his wife, MARY BOWDEN. They later lived in LAKE BENTON, MINNESOTA, where my Grandfather, VICTOR KENDALL was born in 1884. I would also like to find out which county in Vt. he was born (I'm on the VT mailing list but have had no luck there). PHILO brought a New York Times newspaper with him when he moved here (Kent, WA). He had saved the newspaper because it was the day after President Lincoln was shot. This and the fact that my cousins were confused about his birplace (VT or NEW YORK) is why I think he lived in NEW YORK. The 1870 Census of Minnesota lists his birthplace as Vermont. Any other Kendalls from New York? Mary (Kendall) Clouse mcwebber48@hotmail.com ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com

If you find a source for Broome Co. church records, please let me know. The LDS church hasn't filmed any that I know of. Vicki Hall Titus Co-ordinator of Broome Co. GenWeb -----Original Message----- From: Inge Kellier [SMTP:kelvalve@planet.eon.net] Sent: Tuesday, November 02, 1999 8:16 PM To: GEN-NYS-L@rootsweb.com Subject: M.E. Church of Colesville Hello list. In the 1865 State Census of Colesville, Broome Co., I found that the sister of one of my husband's ancestors was married in a Methodist Episcopal church in Colesville. Does anyone know where I might find these church records? I am trying to find records in regards to Frank L. Carey, birth and marriage if possible. Frank was born 1839 and married between 1860 and 1865. I can't personally visit any libraries, archives or historical societies, as I live a long ways off, so I will need addresses or phone numbers if anyone has any suggestions where to search for these church records. Inge Kellier Edmonton, AB

Am still looking for parentage for a 3-greatgrandmother, MARY COON first wife (?) of MICHAEL SHERMAN, he b. ca. 1779, probably son of JOHAN SCHURMAN and CATHARINA MERSELIS (Schenectady Ref.Church). Their children, probably born in Oneonta or Edmeston, Otsego County, NY--Anna, 1802; John, 1805; Michael, 1806, Catherine, Mary and James P., after 1806; James Adam, 1808--then maybe another wife, Michael again, 1815 and Jacob, 1817. Michael Sherman and wife Mary show up on a deed in Delaware County along with JOANNES ADAMS,SR. maybe a connection with an Adams family? Michael and Mary Coon Sherman's children were all christened in Edmeston, NY (near Oneonta). In an early history of Oneonta Mrs. Sherman (Mary Coon) is listed as an old lady with one arm (don't ask me what happened!!!) And, my ancestor, JOHN SHERMAN, 1805, was raised in a family "called DIETZ" from the Frank Dempster Sherman notes at NY pub.library. thanks joan

Hello list. In the 1865 State Census of Colesville, Broome Co., I found that the sister of one of my husband's ancestors was married in a Methodist Episcopal church in Colesville. Does anyone know where I might find these church records? I am trying to find records in regards to Frank L. Carey, birth and marriage if possible. Frank was born 1839 and married between 1860 and 1865. I can't personally visit any libraries, archives or historical societies, as I live a long ways off, so I will need addresses or phone numbers if anyone has any suggestions where to search for these church records. Inge Kellier Edmonton, AB

Hello, Here is what the Enchanted Mountains Genealogy Society has added to the site for the month of October. I hope they can help some of you. Good luck in your research. Sincerely, The EMGS http://www.enchantedmountains.com Pages Added to Enchanted Mountains During October 1999 POTTER COUNTY, PA 1810 CENSUS OF POTTER COUNTY 1820 CENSUS OF POTTER COUNTY 1830 Potter County, Pa. Census 1850 CENUS- BINGHAM TWP. (POTTER CO.,PA) 1850 CENSUS- CLARA TWP. (POTTER CO.,PA) 1850 CENSUS-COUDERSPORT TWP. (POTTER CO.,PA) 1850 CENSUS-EULALIA TWP.-Potter Co., PA 1850 CENSUS- GENESEE TWP., Potter Co., Pa. 1850 CENSUS- HOMER TWP. (POTTER CO., PA) 1850 CENSUS- JACKSON TWP-(POTTER CO., PA) History of Potter County Civil War Veterens Revolutionary War Vets Buried Here History of the Counties of McKean, Elk, Cameron and Potter, Pennsylvania, with Biographical Selections, Sharon Township and Oswayo, Potter Co., PA Potter Co., PA Place Names from the Quarterly Bulletin of the Potter Co. Historical Society Potter County Tidbits Townships and Boroughs of Potter County 1836 property map (partial) ALLEGANY COUNTY, NY Alfred Rural Cemetery, Alfred, New York ( Allegany Co.) Yorks Corners Cemetery Willing, NY (Allegany CO.) incomplete listing CATTARAUGUS COUNTY, NY Cattaraugus County Historians Cattaraugus County Town and City Clerks Cattaraugus County,N.Y. Extent of Records Cattaraugus County Folklure Little Valley Then and Now Olean History Short Histories Cattaraugus County Sheriff's Appointed 1817-1821 Cattaraugus County Board of Supervisors 1818-1923 Holiday Plane Crash in 1951 Near Little Valley Killed 26 CHAUTAUQUA COUNTY, NY DIRECTORY OF SELECTED LOCAL HISTORY RESEARCH COLLECTIONS IN CHAUTAUQUA COUNTY, NY The early history of the Town of Ellicott, NY. Personal recollections of Dr. Gilbert W.HAZELTINE, 1887 Enchanted Mountains Most Wanted List

*** Reposted *** This address is in 20th Ward. For future reference, look at the "Street & Avenue Directory" appendix in the Trow's Directory to get the cross streets on either side of your address - in this case, 7th and 8th Avenues. Some, but not all, microfilmings of the Trow's Directories include the Manhattan street map which shows the Wards. These were fold-out maps published in each copy of the directory, but some obviously got ripped out and were lost over the years. Regards, Charles Sullivan hotairboard@worldnet.att.net wrote: >Hi, >I haven't posted to this mailing list in a long time. I am going up to >NARA in Pittsfield on this Wednesday and I am looking up my >Great-great-grandfather on the 1860 Census.I finally had a break and >found his house address on the Trow N.Y.City Directory for 1862-1863. I >believe it is in Manhattan, but I don't have a ward # for the address. >The address is 169th-W.29th does anyone know where this is? And could >anyone tell me the Ward #. Thank you in advance for your help.Finding >the Hartner's the very hard way!! >Truly, >Carol > > >==== GEN-NYS Mailing List ==== >Have you seen the USGenWeb New York Page? > http://www.rootsweb.com/~nygenweb/

I just received my copy from Vital Stats in Albany. I sent for it in April. I've heard it can take much longer, so I guess I was lucky! Good luck to those of you who are waiting!

Hi, I had posted this on Sunday, and I don't know if it didn't go through? I didn't see it on the digest list, so I am posting it again! I haven't posted to this mailing list in a long time. I am going up to NARA in Pittsfield on this Wednesday and I am looking up my Great-great-grandfather Jacob Hartner on the 1860 Census.I finally had a break and found his house address on the Trow N.Y.City Directory for 1862-1863.I believe it is in Manhattan, but I don't have a ward # for the address.The address is 169th-W.29th does anyone know where this is? And could anyone tell me the Ward #. Thank you in advance for your help.Finding the Hartner's the very hard way!!This Family has been my BRICK WALL FOR A LONG WHILE!! Truly, Carol

It is now called Hudson River Psychiatric Center. The one for the criminally insane was in Beacon, NY and was called Matteawan State Hospital. That bldg is now part of the NYS prison system. The one in Wassaic was for the developmentally disabled. It was sold several years ago. Maureen >I believe it was called Hudson River State Hospital. There was also >one to the east of Poughkeepsie for the the criminally insane. I >believe it started with a "W" such as Waisaic. > >Larry > >doscher@ibm.net wrote: >> >> Sharon, >> >> There was such a hospital in Poughkeepsie NY, on Rt 9 North. I >> do not recall the exact name, but either check with the NYS Mental >> Health Dept. in Albany NY, or call Marist College in Poughkeepsie. >> (Area code 914). Marist is just down the street from the hospital >> and someone will probably know the name and address. The site >> was closed as a hospital in the mid-80's and was about 100 years >> old was closed. >> >> David Doscher >> > > >==== GEN-NYS Mailing List ==== >Have you forgotten how to UNSUBSCRIBE? >Visit the GEN-NYS-L Frequently Asked Questions (And Answers!) web page: > http://www.rootsweb.com/~nozell/GEN-NYS-L/FAQ/GEN-NYS-L.txt >

Binghamton Psychiatric Center 425 Robinson St. Binghamton, NY 13901 Phone 607- 724- 1391 You can get info and death cert. from these poeple. They are very nice to deal with. Cert. cost 10.00. They are alot faster than sending for the death cert from the records department. Hope this helps, Christal

I believe it was called Hudson River State Hospital. There was also one to the east of Poughkeepsie for the the criminally insane. I believe it started with a "W" such as Waisaic. Larry doscher@ibm.net wrote: > > Sharon, > > There was such a hospital in Poughkeepsie NY, on Rt 9 North. I > do not recall the exact name, but either check with the NYS Mental > Health Dept. in Albany NY, or call Marist College in Poughkeepsie. > (Area code 914). Marist is just down the street from the hospital > and someone will probably know the name and address. The site > was closed as a hospital in the mid-80's and was about 100 years > old was closed. > > David Doscher >

The hospital is not yet closed. The Rt. 9 facility has been purchased by a private developer who will not take possession for approx one year. At present, the State of NY is remodeling a bldg in a different Poughkeepsie location in order to house the "violent" patients. All others are being relocated. The office staff is still at the Rt. 9 location, so all genealogical inquiries should be addressed there. Maureen At 07:04 AM 11/1/99 -0600, you wrote: >Sharon, > > There was such a hospital in Poughkeepsie NY, on Rt 9 North. I >do not recall the exact name, but either check with the NYS Mental >Health Dept. in Albany NY, or call Marist College in Poughkeepsie. >(Area code 914). Marist is just down the street from the hospital >and someone will probably know the name and address. The site >was closed as a hospital in the mid-80's and was about 100 years >old was closed. > >David Doscher > > >Sharon Baker wrote: > >> I think that there was also one in (or near) Binghamton, NY, and I think >> that might have been active maybe into the 1960's (don't know when it was >> opened, though). I just remember references to it when I was a kid in >> Elmira. >> >> Sharon Baker >> Carroll, Stedge, Teresi, Leone >> >> >From: Wanda <SunWolf@WolfEmail.com> >> >To: GEN-NYS-L@rootsweb.com >> >Subject: State Hospital >> >Date: Sun, 31 Oct 1999 12:15:32 -0500 >> > >> >Hi, >> > Looking for the Address of the NY State Hospital for the Insane. Was >> >there only one? this may have been near Poughkeepsie, NY and the date >> >would be 1929 this appears to be where my Grandmother died... and I'm >> >looking for her medical records and Death Certificate. >> > >> >Does any one here have any input... the records may long since be gone >> >but at this point it is worth a try.. Thanks. >> > >> >Wanda >> > >> > >> > >> >==== GEN-NYS Mailing List ==== >> >Have you considered joining the Rootsweb Genealogical Data >> >Cooperative? >> > http://www.rootsweb.com/ >> > >> >> ______________________________________________________ >> Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com >> >> ==== GEN-NYS Mailing List ==== >> Have you considered joining the Rootsweb Genealogical Data >> Cooperative? >> http://www.rootsweb.com/ > > >==== GEN-NYS Mailing List ==== >Have you considered joining the Rootsweb Genealogical Data >Cooperative? > http://www.rootsweb.com/ >

I believe New York had a whole network of Mental Hospitals throughout the state. On Long Island alone, there were Creedmore in Queens, Pilgrim State and Edgewood (children) in Brentwood, Kings Park in Kings Park and Central Islip in Central Islip. There probably was one in Brooklyn, but I don't know its name.... Have you checked with the state Mental Health Office? I have telephone numbers for the regional office in Brentwood at 1-631-434-5311 or 1-631-434-5333. Hope this helps.... Regards, Grace

Thanks to all who answered... Hi just got off the phone with the Supervisor or Medical Records from the Hudson River Psychiatric Center, North Road, Poughkeepsie NY. They are not sure if they have the records, but will be glad to look... Sometimes they retain only the base information which in my case would be better then nothing... All I need to do is send them a copy of my birth cert. and my mother's along with the other letter I have stating where she died, and they will see what they can do.. So you have steered me in the right direction, just maybe I'll get luck... The sad thing is my poor mother, believed that her mother died 10 days after she was born from malnutrition... Well one step at a time.. Thanks all of you for your wonderful help.. I'll let you know if it worked.. Sincerely Wanda Clowater

Sharon, There was such a hospital in Poughkeepsie NY, on Rt 9 North. I do not recall the exact name, but either check with the NYS Mental Health Dept. in Albany NY, or call Marist College in Poughkeepsie. (Area code 914). Marist is just down the street from the hospital and someone will probably know the name and address. The site was closed as a hospital in the mid-80's and was about 100 years old was closed. David Doscher Sharon Baker wrote: > I think that there was also one in (or near) Binghamton, NY, and I think > that might have been active maybe into the 1960's (don't know when it was > opened, though). I just remember references to it when I was a kid in > Elmira. > > Sharon Baker > Carroll, Stedge, Teresi, Leone > > >From: Wanda <SunWolf@WolfEmail.com> > >To: GEN-NYS-L@rootsweb.com > >Subject: State Hospital > >Date: Sun, 31 Oct 1999 12:15:32 -0500 > > > >Hi, > > Looking for the Address of the NY State Hospital for the Insane. Was > >there only one? this may have been near Poughkeepsie, NY and the date > >would be 1929 this appears to be where my Grandmother died... and I'm > >looking for her medical records and Death Certificate. > > > >Does any one here have any input... the records may long since be gone > >but at this point it is worth a try.. Thanks. > > > >Wanda > > > > > > > >==== GEN-NYS Mailing List ==== > >Have you considered joining the Rootsweb Genealogical Data > >Cooperative? > > http://www.rootsweb.com/ > > > > ______________________________________________________ > Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com > > ==== GEN-NYS Mailing List ==== > Have you considered joining the Rootsweb Genealogical Data > Cooperative? > http://www.rootsweb.com/

I see your discussion on state hospitals and now on the one in Binghamton. I obtained a copy of the record of a great great uncle who was a patient at the Binghamton Psychiatric Center the last year of his life. This institution was known at that time as the Binghamton State Hospital. The information on the copy of the record was the date of admission, his age, his marital status, his native country, the name of his illness, what wards he was in, the date of his death, and the case book number and page number. There were other blanks that might have been filled in, but weren't in h is case, such as condition, duration and correspond with. He was buried in the hospital burial ground. Jayne perllan987@aol.com

I think that there was also one in (or near) Binghamton, NY, and I think that might have been active maybe into the 1960's (don't know when it was opened, though). I just remember references to it when I was a kid in Elmira. Sharon Baker Carroll, Stedge, Teresi, Leone >From: Wanda <SunWolf@WolfEmail.com> >To: GEN-NYS-L@rootsweb.com >Subject: State Hospital >Date: Sun, 31 Oct 1999 12:15:32 -0500 > >Hi, > Looking for the Address of the NY State Hospital for the Insane. Was >there only one? this may have been near Poughkeepsie, NY and the date >would be 1929 this appears to be where my Grandmother died... and I'm >looking for her medical records and Death Certificate. > >Does any one here have any input... the records may long since be gone >but at this point it is worth a try.. Thanks. > >Wanda > > > >==== GEN-NYS Mailing List ==== >Have you considered joining the Rootsweb Genealogical Data >Cooperative? > http://www.rootsweb.com/ > ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com

I'm posting the NJ Marriage Bonds in batches of 50 to the NJGenWeb Archives Page under "Marriage Records" (the last batch from each volume usually has closer to 75). When I finally complete the project (which is going to take quite a while!), I'm going to post the ones with Pennsylvania and those with New York connections to the appropriate GenWeb pages for those states. I've just started Vol. D (which is grooms' surnames beginning with 'D'), the time frame covered by these bonds is GENERALLY 1735-1797. I started researching them because I was looking for more info. than just a list of the brides and grooms with marriage dates. I was particularly interested in the fellow bondsmen! And to find the fellow bondsmen, I have to read each and every one of the bonds because the bondsmen aren't included in the indexes that had been done previously, neither were the witnesses. And because I have been helped so much by cemetery records that have been posted to the Saratoga Co, and Herkimer Co. pages of NYGenWeb, I decided to "return" the favor by posting the marriage bonds. These extracts from the marriage bonds are from microfilm copies of original records at the NJ State Archives, and so the bonds themselves are not subject to copyright laws (nor are the microfilms). I am not using any indexes produced by any private individuals to double check names or dates, but am posting them as I have interpreted the handwriting, so there is no copyright infringement there either! (I'm emphasising this because I have been "flamed" about "stealing" these - turns out the guy who was so upset does look-ups and charges $12.50 per marriage record) I have just sent the first four batches of Vol. D to the person who is in charge of the NJGenWeb site. There are many surnames that would not be found under the expected spelling in a surname search, so be VERY creative in your searches. The address for the NJ GenWeb Archives is: http://www.rootsweb.com/~usgenweb/nj/njfiles.htm To access the Marriage Bonds, go to the middle of the page, under "State-Wide Archives", click on "Marriage Records" or click on "search engine" to search ALL of the records (this will allow you to search for surnames in the different states). Pat B

Michelle -- The NYS vital records I wrote for in mid-April are just now arriving, so that makes it about 6 and a half months. Not great, but better than two years. After dealing with New York State for quite some time, I find I am now in the habit of sending for vital records (making a note of everything I send for) and then just forgetting about it. Then one day several months later -- if you're lucky -- you get a nice surprise in the mail. Dealing with clerks at the town level in New York can be an interesting experience. Some have been very helpful to me -- even providing material free of charge -- while others have been "snitty and snippy" -- requiring a xeroxed copy of my driver's license and taking nearly as long as NYS to fulfill the request. One serious consideration about getting records at the town level -- and this may have already been mentioned on this thread (I haven't read all the messages) -- is that the records you get from the town clerks are almost invariably transcriptions (or transcriptions of transcriptions) and as such are almost guaranteed to contain errors and omissions -- and some of the errors can be serious enough to throw your research off track. So if you have the time and the money, I definitely recommend getting vital records from NYS, since they provide a photocopy of the original record. Then you can take all the time you need deciphering the handwriting. You can bet a local clerk is not going to spend too much time puzzling over handwriting on your behalf. Dave Simonds ============================================================ At 12:09 PM 10/28/99 EDT, you wrote: Hey..I just found out it can take up to 2 years..2!!!!!!! to get certificates from Albany (Vital records) I called because I have been waiting!!! I can't believe it...so much wquicker to go through the county if you know it or if you feel comfortable writing to people in a county. (I didn't and that's why I sent to vitals) Yuck!!!! Wish something could be done to move it down to a 9 month span of time! Michele Lockwood