To all who gave me suggestions and information helping me locate the State Mental Hospital near Poughkeepsie.. Thanks Millions In today's mail was the responce to my Letter to the Hudson River Psychiatric Center, although they no longer had the medical records. (which I had hoped they would) They did have still her date of Birth, and place her father and mother's names. Date of death and place and what she died from... So, a dead link may have gained some much needed ground. Thanks again to you all. Wanda

Researching the DEAR surname in the following states and counties: STATE COUNTIES Connecticut New Haven, Litchfield New York Albany, Onondaga, Jefferson Michigan Wayne, Oakland, Kent Ohio Scioto, Ottawa, Stark, Washington, Monroe Indiana Kosciusko, Marshall Kansas Reno Contact me at RDear54616@aol.com OR cartwheel1@juno.com

Marcena, I have some additional information regarding your query on Hugh and Bridget RATIGAN of Churchville, NY. Please e-mail me privately. Lynda

> Can someone help me? I found Choconut Center, NY on the map. >It's just outside Binghamton & close to Johnson City but I can't seem to >find it on the 1870 Broome Co. Census. Sandy - You need to determine what TOWNSHIP Choconut Center is/was in. The pre-1880 censuses were arranged by townships, "usually" in alphabetical order. Beginning with the 1880, they switched to Enumeration Districts (and since this was a Federal operation, the EDs do not carry over to the next census!) The FHLC does have a township atlas on microfiche, FHLC 6049121. This has "maps" of counties (arranged alphabetically with in the state) with the township lines and names added. You would need to use it in conjunction with a map that shows where the town is, because the "maps" on the atlas are just 'outlines' of the counties. Pat B, Virginia Beach VA FHC

Hi Pat, I'm replying to the list to thank you and everyone else who answered my question (I thanked the others privately). I knew that I could get the answer from my friends on this list and you did it! And Now I even got a "new" piece of info besides. Choconut Center is "listed" under the town of Union in Broome Co. You're all a great bunch! Sandy On Tue, 9 Nov 1999 brgnr@ix.netcom.com wrote: > > Can someone help me? I found Choconut Center, NY on the map. > >It's just outside Binghamton & close to Johnson City but I can't seem to > >find it on the 1870 Broome Co. Census. > > Sandy - > You need to determine what TOWNSHIP Choconut Center is/was in. The pre-1880 > censuses were arranged by townships, "usually" in alphabetical order. Beginning > with the 1880, they switched to Enumeration Districts (and since this was a > Federal operation, the EDs do not carry over to the next census!) > > The FHLC does have a township atlas on microfiche, FHLC 6049121. This has "maps" > of counties (arranged alphabetically with in the state) with the township lines > and names added. You would need to use it in conjunction with a map that shows > where the town is, because the "maps" on the atlas are just 'outlines' of the > counties. > Pat B, Virginia Beach VA FHC

Could someone look up William Snow 1870 Census New York age 46 birthplace (Engl) County : New York Locality 20-wd 13-eD Roll # 1008, page # 409 Thanks Kathy

Hi Marilyn: Here is some further information on the NYS Archives and Library which may help you (and others) when you visit. 1. The Library is on the 7th Floor of the Education Building. You will find state and federal census records, city directories from major cities across the US and shelves of reference books arranged by counties. Many of the newspapers published in New York State over the years are available on microfilm. Walk around the floor and see what is available. One section of shelving has large oversize boxes full of interesting items. Inside each box will be large envelopes with a list of the contents. One envelope I looked in had a letter from the Roman Catholic Diocese of Albany listing the dates that every Catholic Church in the Diocese opened. 2. The Archives are on the 11th floor. You have to sign in and show some sort of identification. Lockers are available outside the room since you cannot bring in coats, pocketbooks, briefcases, three ring binders, etc. Microfiche records of births, deaths and marriages are available for most of the State. New York City (and a few other locations) are not included in the microfiche records which start about 1880. If you are looking for a World War I Record, staff there can check in a location not open to the public and give you a copy of the index card record if they have it. 3. Whenever I am at the archives I have lunch on the second floor of the building which has a small lunch room. It's quick to get to and then I am able to get right back to my research. Hope this information is of use. Regards, Bill McGrath Clifton Park, NY > From: MJSTERN46@aol.com > To: GEN-NYS-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: Preparation for Albany research later this month >

In a message dated 11/9/99 6:25:42 PM Central Standard Time, brgnr@ix.netcom.com writes: > > Can someone help me? I found Choconut Center, NY on the map. > >It's just outside Binghamton & close to Johnson City but I can't seem to > >find it on the 1870 Broome Co. Census. > > Sandy - > You need to determine what TOWNSHIP Choconut Center is/was in. Hi, it looks to me like Choconut Center, in Broome County, is in the TOWN of Union but I could be persuaded otherwise--the lines are rather hard to read on my trusty New York Atlas and Gazatteer! Or could it be my 53 yr old eyes??? Regards, Marilyn (Austin, TX)

Can someone help me? I found Choconut Center, NY on the map. It's just outside Binghamton & close to Johnson City but I can't seem to find it on the 1870 Broome Co. Census. I have a Broome Republican newspaper notice stating James HOGG died 1877 in Choconut Center and I want to check the census and also find out what Town/City Clerk would have records. His wife, Judith (TUCKEY) HOGG was still living at the time of his death. I checked the census at FHC but it did not list Choconut Center. Would it have been listed under Binghamton or maybe Johnson City? I did check the Broome Co. web page but couldn't find anything. There is a mailing list for Broome Co. but it's not a rootsweb list and has almost zero activity. I thought this list would be my best solution as it has lots of activity and so many knowledgable people on it. I've learned so much just by reading it. Thanks for any help anyone can give me. Sandy, Maryland, NY

Hi everyone, I am new to this sort of thing, so please be patient. I have been told that a great aunt of mine, Fannie MOSELEY went to Halifax, Nova Scotia in 1904 to marry the Rev. George BACKHURST. They eventually lived in several states including Michigan, Minnesota and New York State. Also a Kate MOSELEY, Fannie's sister, who went to help with the children. Thanking you all. Ken Allcock.

SMITH brothers; Dryden & Lansing, Tompkins Co., NY; 1790s+ Benjamin, Henry, Isaac, Jacob , and John Smith A very helpful correspondent just sent the following message to me: -----Original Message----- To: perry@streeter.com Subject: Henry Smith Perry, I looked at your Smith family of Tompkins Co. [see http://www.perry.streeter.com] and maybe I have an answer for you from a book on Dryden. It may tell you where to look next for more info. On the father of Henry... My husband's... family were also of Lansing but were listed in this Dryden book so there is a good chance this Smith family may be your's... the names of the children are so very simular to those that would be this Henry's sibling brothers. The Centennial History of the Town of Dryden - 1797 - 1897 compiled & edited by Geo. E. Goodrich - J.Giles Ford Printer: The Dryden Herald Steam Printing House. Dryden, New York [1898] pg. 166 [verbatim] "SMITH. In the early years of the century five brothers, Benjamin, Isaac, Jacob , John and Henry Smith, with their widowed mother, left Stroudsburg, Pa., and came into the wilds of New York State. They selected land on Lot 11 in Dryden and began clearing off the timber. At the breaking out of the War of 1812 the four brothers first named volunteered and served throughout the war. Soon after returning Benjamin died. Isaac moved to Danby and later to Ohio. Jacob, John and Henry remained on the original purchase until their deaths. Their mother lived to the age of 104 years. The land is still held in the family, Ex-Sheriff William J. Smith and the heirs of James Smith, who were descendants of John Smith, being the present owners." ------------------------- Original message concluded Stroudsburg, PA is adjacent to Northampton Co., PA from whence the BAUER/BOWER family migrated to Tompkins Co., NY. It seems quite probable that the Henry SMITH cited above is identical with the Henry SCHMIDT/SMITH cited in my documentation (see http://www.perry.streeter.com for more information): 1. Henry Schmidt/Smith, born New Jersey (1880 New York State Federal Census, [birthplace of Susan A. (Smith) Miner's father]) about 1772 [7 April 1773?]; "Henry Smith was born April the 7th 1743 [sic, 1773?]" (Mary L. Young [hereinafter Young], letter to her aunt, Susan A. (Smith) Miner, 31 December 1868, Ithaca, New York); "Henry Smith was born April 7th, 1743 [sic, 1773?]" (Smith Family Record 1 [hereinafter SFR1]. Henry died [Lansing, Tompkins County, New York] 1 October 1855 "Henry Smith died Oct. 1st 1855" (SFR1); "Henry Smith Died Oct 1st 1855 age 83 years" (Smith Family Record 2 [hereinafter SFR2]). Henry Smith was married 18 December [1796?] to Sarah Emerich/ Emery; "Henry Smith was Married to Sarah Emony [sic] Dec the 18th 1786 [sic, 1796?]" (Young). Sarah (Emery) Smith was born in New Jersey (1880 New York State Federal Census [birthplace of Susan A. (Smith) Miner's mother]) about 1777 [15 November 1775?]; "Sarah Emony [sic] was born Nov. 15th 1745" [sic, 1775?]" (SFR1); "Sarah Smith was born Nov the 15, 1745" [sic, 1775?] (Young). Sarah died [Lansing, Tompkins County, New York] 9 or 10 August 1865; "Sarah Smith died Aug. 10th 1865 aged 88 years 10 months" (SFR1); "Sarah Smith Died Aug 9th 1865" (SFR2)... ... In the 1880 Federal census, Julia (Smith) (Bower) McClay, indicated that Henry and Sarah were both born in Pennsylvania, rather than New Jersey, so we must consider this possibility. It appears probable that Jacob Smith was Henry's and Sarah's eldest son; this may be a valuable clue towards finding either one of their fathers. It should be noted that a John Emery was born in Covert, Seneca County, New York on 1 October 1832 to Jacob and Julia (Cook) Emery. Perhaps Jacob Emery was a brother or other close kinsman to Sarah (Emery) Smith... I am seeking all genealogical and biographical details for the family documented above including their ancestors, children, and grandchildren and the spouses thereof, including the full names of those spouses' parents. All additions and corrections within this scope, however speculative, will be greatly appreciated. Perry Streeter (perry@streeter.com) Canandaigua, New York USA http://www.perry.streeter.com

Pilgrim Interrupters Excerpts from a book called "Then Some Other Things Happened", a collection of short pieces about history written by eigth graders and compiled by Bill Lawrence, a teacher and columnist. The Pilgrams were a bunch of English wonderers who wanted to worship as they wanted to. They excaped the Church of England and came over here because they heard that American churches were different. The May Flower was the ship with which they came in. It didn't have a bathroom on board so there was quite an oder. Priscillia Mullins was the captain. First the Pilgrams had gone to Holland but left when their children started developing customs there. After a stopover at Williamsbug when a large storm blew them off course they landed on a big, slimey rock in Massatusetts. They spent the winter there. Before they got off the ship even they drew up an agreement for the people of Plymouth to agree on the voting for governors and congressmen. They kept this hid in the May Flower Compact. Lord Delaware was elected the first governor of Plymouth Rock. A friendly Indian named Rhone Oak showed the Pilgrams how to plant corn by putting it in the ground. Rhone Oak had been the first Indian to come to America and always wanted a beer. He traveled around with Miles Standy and translated language. He knew enough English to interupt. Another interupter for the white man was Squanto, who was called that because he was so short. Squanto drew up a declaration to give the settlers freedom of goverment in the new land. The Pilgrams gave the Indians thanks for all this and that's what started Thanksgiving. The Pilgrams then appointed Thanksgiving as a national holiday. Abraham Lincoln later pronounced it and gave it to them and it soon became a national holiday all around the world. These people always wore old shoes with a big buckel on the top of them. The men wore pants that only came a little ways past the knees and the girls wore funny bonets. But if these people wouldn't had of come to America the United States wouldn't be like it is today.

Hello listmembers... I learned recently of a June 1997 re-enactment of a (circa 1795) wagon train that travelled from PA to ON. I am told it was related to the transport of UEL Families and/ or British sympathisers out of PA. The 1997 re-enactment apparently took about two weeks to complete. It started in the US (NY or PA?) and finished at a "festival" somewhere in Ontario. The most likely route was via NY. [Unfortunately, these are the only details my informant can recall.] I am trying to:-- a. -- find out what historical or genealogical group mounted the re-enactment.... obtain details such as route/ duration/ travel complement # of persons, horses, etc b. -- get in touch with the person(s) who prepared the research about the original ca 1795 trek for the re-enactment. I am researching the origins of my SHAFER lines in Wentworth Co, ON. There is a story in the family that they were of "Pennsylvania Dutch stock". I suspect that my SHAFER ancestors came from PA, possibly as members of the original ca 1795 wagon train party. It most likely Thanks, in advance, for any information provided. Regards, Gord Hines (Regina SK CANADA) email: ghines@sk.sympatico.ca

Hi, Looking for information on William Swift of Nottingham, England, his son was John Swift born in 1815. John married Jane Weloh. John had a son by the name of Henry Swift who was born in Orange County, New York in 1843. Any help in finding this family would be most appreciated. Thanks Larry

Concerning safety when visiting the Albany County Hall of Records: 1. It is on South Pearl Street. 2. It is located in what was formerly a shopping plaza. 3. Also located at that site is the NYState Department of Motor Vehicles and the Albany county health department. 4. It is across the street from an elementary school. 5. It is a few blocks from the main police station. 6. It is not a dangerous or threatening place to go to. 7. I have been there on a weekly basis for several years and have never experienced or observed any problem. 8. Certainly, you would lock your car, just as you would in any parking facility. 9. I see no difference in safety there than at the NYS museum or the Main Branch of the Albany Public Library. Barbara boh@Albany.Net

Does anybody know anything about this family below? There are two listings for them. The birthdate on either SAMUEL WELLS b. 1782 would fit the one I'm looking for, but it appears as if the family had two children named Samuel, so I'm wondering if the first one born in 1782 died. Or, it could be it's the same child and the dates and places are in error. Descendants of Benjamin WELLS Generation No. 1 1. BENJAMIN1 WELLS He married MARY PAGE1. Child of BENJAMIN WELLS and MARY PAGE is: i. SAMUEL2 WELLS1, b. March 20, 1782, Dutch Reformed Church, Schaghticoke, Rensselaer, New York2. Descendants of Benjamin WELLS Generation No. 1 1. BENJAMIN1 WELLS He married MARY PAGE1. Child of BENJAMIN WELLS and MARY PAGE is: i. SAMUEL DAY2 WELLS1, b. March 24, 1784, Saratoga, New York2. Endnotes 1. The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, International Genealogical Index (TM), July 1996 (c), data as of 2 January 1996. 2. TITLE, Batch #: 8402001, Sheet #: 82, Source Call #: 1395704.

In a message dated 10/31/1999 7:23:03 PM Eastern Standard Time, GEN-NYS-D-request@rootsweb.com writes: << I was just told that my gggggreatgrandfather was a member of the Scotish Rights Mason's. How would i go about finding where or when he became a member or where for sure he joined?? Can anyone tell me if they have a chapter in Crown Point, NY? If so what is their address? Any help would be greatly appreciated. Thank you in advance. Cindi Grant Newport, WA cagrant@triax.com >> Dear Ms. Grant, In response to your inquiry about the Scottish Rite Masonic Order, you may contact the organization's main office for the Northern Masonic Jurisdiction, which includes all of New York State, as follows: Mr. Robert O. Ralston, Sovereign Grand Commander Ancient Accepted Scottish Rite of Freemasonry Supreme Council - Thirty-Third Degree, N.M.J. P.O. Box 519 33 Marrett Road (Route 2A) Lexington, Massachusetts 02420-0519 Telephone: 781-862-4410 Fax No.: 781-863-1833 e-Mail: dcurtis@supremecouncil.org Web Page: www.supremecouncil.org Membership in the Scottish Rite requires having membership in good standing in a Masonic Lodge. If you believe that your ancester may have held membership in a Masonic Lodge in New York State, you may want to write to the Grand Lodge F. & A.M. of New York, 71 West 23rd Street, New York, NY 10010-4149. Hope this was helpful. Be well, GripMason

Hello Listers, I have decided to declare a one name study for the OLNEY family. The names comes in various flavors as you will see below. If you have anyone connected with your family who has the name(s), please send them to me. I have a lot of people to connect and YOU may be the critical link. I appreciate any information you can give me. Thank you so much! OLNEY ONLEY OLNEYE ONLEYE OLNEI ONEY ONAY OLNY ONGLEY OLDNEY OLEENY ONELEY ONELIE ONELYE OLNEA OLLNEA OLENEY OLIGNEY OULNEY OWLNEY COLNEY CULNEY AULDNAY AULNAY OLLNEY Please provide your name and family search for contributor references. YOUR unselfish help is what makes families great, yours and mine. Thank you, Nina Nina L. Olney Thank you from Arizona Looking for the Olneys/D'Oyley/Onley etc.

I am replying to the following message from you: > the wrong URL. I have never been with Compuserve. >The NYMarriage Index is in the works at the following >http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~blkyn/Bklyn.Info.Page.html >Click on MARRIAGE(index) >We r almost done with J and starting K >Nancy Dear Nancy, I think that I am the one who sent the wrong URL. My computer always uses compuserve as the first choice of destination when I "add to address book." Sorry. Thank you for correcting the mistake. Since I have a lot of Nancy's in my address book, could you give me a last name or initial? When you say that you are on "K", does this refer to the Grooms and/or the bride's last name? And is this for all of NY, or for the City? And what dates do you cover?

Before you go, check the Albany County Hall of Records web site. www.albanycounty.com/achor/ This will give you a list of all their holdings. If your relatives were naturalized in Albany County, the records would be there. There is an index of naturalizations at the web site. There is a latge parking lot there. No charge. Barbara boh@Albany.Net