First time poster here. This is just a shot in the dark, but I'll give it a try. I descend from the SCALES family in N MI & Canada. My great grandfather was Alex SCALES; however, I am not absolutely positive that the Alexander E. SCALES of the census, data presented below, is the same person. I write here because, per the 1900 census, Alexander SCALES' grandmother was b. in NY. according to all 3 "brothers" (living side by side w/parentage from same places); they'd said in 1910 that she was b. in PA, so I joined that list, too. Please contact me if you might recognize this Mr. SCALES b. in Ireland who married a NY lady. Thanks, Bonnie skyvine@alum.wofford.org (permanent email forwarding to the address above) Descendants of _ Scales 1 _ SCALES b: ca 1830 Ireland .. +_ _ b: ca 1830 NY or PA m: ca 1855 <Canada (English)> ....... 2 Joseph SCALES b: Mar 1857 Canada (English) d: Aft. 1900 ........... +Margaret _ b: Jun 1874 Canada (English) m: ca 1896 d: Aft. 1900 ................3 Alex (? Alexander E. ?) SCALES b: Jul 1893 , Chippewa, MI d: ca 1961 , Chippewa, MI Burial: Sault Ste. Marie, Michigan .................... +Barbara Emily JOHNSON b: Oct 21, 1895 Sault Ste Marie, Chippewa, MI d: Apr 09, 1985 Sault Ste Marie, Chippewa, MI Burial: , Chippewa, MI Father: William JOHNSON Mother: Barbara MCKECHNIE ................ 3 Genevieve P. SCALES b: Jan 1897 Sault Ste. Marie, Chippewa. MI d: Aft. 1900 ................ 3 Lorella SCALES b: Nov 1898 Sault Ste. Marie, Chippewa. MI d: Aft. 1900 ....... 2 [1] Alexander SCALES b: Dec 1865 Canada (English) d: Aft. 1900 ........... +_ _ b: Canada (English) ................ 3 Elmer SCALES b: Dec 1892 , Chippewa. MI d: Aft. 1900 ....... *2nd Wife of [1] Alexander SCALES: ........... +Margaret FELTIS b: Aug 1876 Canada (English) m: ca 1896 d: Aft. 1900 ................ 3 Effie SCALES b: Oct 1897 Sault Ste. Marie, Chippewa, MI d: Aft. 1900 ................ 3 Mary E. SCALES b: Apr 1900 Sault Ste. Marie, Chippewa. MI d: Aft. 1900 ....... 2 Charles SCALES b: Sep 1870 Canada (English) d: Aft. 1900 ........... +Laura TRAVIS b: Sep 03, 1869 Manitoulin Island, Ontario, Canada m: ca 1891 d: 1957 War Mem Hosp, Sault Ste Marie, Chippewa, MI Burial: Donaldson Cem, <Chippewa, MI> ................ 3 Clarence SCALES b: May 1892 MI d: Aft. 1957 ................ 3 daughter SCALES b: Aft. 1900 d: Aft. 1957 .................... +Wayne HAMMOND

Dr. A. J. B. Savage was my Great Uncle. Family knowledge is that he opened a Hospital in New York City, and I believe he died in New York City. He married Marjorie ?, a nurse who moved to Montreal to live with the Dr.'s family after his death. This wonderful woman became the Purchasing Agent for the Herbert Reddy Memorial Hospital in the city of Montreal at a time when women did not hold those positions. She was also my Godmother and was in the delivery room when I was born in 1947. One memory I have of her is what she spoke with an accent which I believe was New York or possibly New England. Would anyone know of the Dr. and/or Marjorie? I would dearly love to add them to my family tree and need way more information. I do not believe that A.J.B. Savage was born in N.Y. as I think he was probably born in England. Jane Vatcher in Ontario (near Toronto)

Share your SAMPUBCO wills by post them on applicable county board for wills. Massachusetts http://cgi.rootsweb.com/~genbbs/indx/Ma.html New York http://cgi.rootsweb.com/~genbbs/indx/NY.html Ohio http://cgi.rootsweb.com/~genbbs/indx/Oh.html Pennsylvania http://cgi.rootsweb.com/~genbbs/indx/Pa.html Others in case, wondering about SAMPUBCO.... http://www.wasatch.com/~dsam/sampubco/ W. David Samuelsen

At 8:36 AM -0800 11/16/99, Marge Minardi wrote: >Hi, could someone please give me the URL for this site. Thanks Marge > > >==== GEN-NYS Mailing List ==== >Visit the GEN-NYS-L web page: > http://www.rootsweb.com/~nozell/GEN-NYS-L/ http://www.nygbs.org

Does anyone have a Samuel Kelley that lived in Champion around the 1800's in Jefferson County? Thank-you Carole Kelly

Does anyone know if the county clerk in Yates County has birth records for 1822? If so, could you please tell me the address? Thank you, Janet

I need info on my Hess line. I have this much info.: Bertha Mae Hess (11/3/1881) (hubby Clark Damon Buchanan) (both born raised Indiana County PA); Bertha's Dad: Albert Henry Hess (11/27/1843-08/26) (wife Marjorie Ellen Lydic) (Both born raised Indiana Co. PA); Al's Dad: SAMUEL HESS (wife Louisa Reed) (BOTH born in NY state maybe Montgomery Co. around 1820?). Samuel and Louisa's children: Emmaline (1842 b. NY state), rest b. Indianan Co PA: Albert Henry (1843), Augustus (1846)and Catherine. If ANYONE has any info please email me at mbw11@home.com Thank you Melissa Watson

Hi all, I'm hoping to find someone who has any information on JOHN SUTTON. He was living in Oswego NY, in 1768, but sold a piece of land in Hopkinton, RI in 1768. Any information Appreciated. Thanks, Linda

Ok Folks. I know it has been awhile but I have been Busy. I left off with Elizabeth "Liddie" Hornbeck and her Husband Hendrick "Henry" Kortreght. Married in 28 Dec 1739, Rochester (Raysester) twp, Ulster Co., NY. I have this from JH Abbott on Page 35 of his book 'The Courtright Family". This makes "Henry 22 and "Liddie" was 17 when they were married. Does anyone have any other source for this information? I believe in the documents from the Old Dutch Church of Rochester Twp. I have a Birth for Henry of August 1717, Rochester (Raysester) twp, Ulster Co., NY. However there is no Source for this. There is a record of his baptism on September 22, 1717 in the same church with Witnesses: Louwerens Kortregt and Zara ten Eyk. Which would be his Aunt and Uncle. I have not seen this record, but read about it in a newsgroup. Has anyone seen a copy of it? His baptism is also mentioned by JH Abbott on Page 35 of his book 'The Courtright Family". I have that Liddie was born May 13, 1722. in Rochester (Raysester) twp, Ulster Co., NY. No Source for her Either. I have recorded that her Baptism occured on the same date and I want to know what we actually have a source for, The birth or the Baptism, or both. Please help if you can. I am now going to go back a step further: The parents of Hendrick "Henry" Kortreght were: Petrus "Pieter" Hendricksen Kortright and Marytjen "Mary" Van Garden Petrus died in 1744 in Rochester (Raysester) twp, Ulster Co., NY "John, Cornelis, Lawrence and Peter Cortright subscribe for the minister at Rochester in 1717, and were leading men there." According to JH Abbott on Page 32 of his book 'The Courtright Family", he and Mary were Married that very year on Jan. 9th. Therefore "Henry" was conceived before marriage. Again according to JH Abbott on Page 32 & 35 of his book 'The Courtright Family". "Pieter" and "Mary" had six to eight children: "Hendrick, Rachel, Catherina, Abraham, Tjetjen and possibly Marya and Petrus. Rachel, (their second born) Married Gybert Van Garden. Is he any relation to "Mary" Van Garden? A Nephew perhaps? Their third child, Catrina married Abraham Van Camp about 1742. Two years f\before her Father's Death. >From somewhere I have to Catrina had also been married to a Jacobus Van Garden. Does anyone else have this and is he related in any way to "Mary" or Gysbert. Abraham, bap. Oct 18, 1724 married Cornelia Bunschoten, Sept 18, 1747. Then he remarried to Rebecca Quick. could Rebecca Quick be related to Thomas Theunissen Quick, 1644 - 1698? I was asked this question a while back and wonder how this may fit in here: "...You will have noticed that at the baptism of Cornelis Van Benschoten and Heyltje Quick's daughter, Heyltje van Aaken Van Benschoten, in the Walpack Dutch church on 26 December 1766, the godparents named were Abram P. Cortregt and Rebecca Cortregt. Were they relatives? In the same church on 16 January 1763, Abram Cortregt and his wife Rebecca QUICK had their daughter "Annatie" baptized. The godparents at that baptism were Alexander van Garden and Neeltie QUICK. Could Rebecca Quick and Neeltie Quick be sisters of Heyltje Quick? In the "Minisink Valley Reformed Dutch Church Records, 1716-1830" on page 2 among the earliest baptisms published for the Walpack Church, I found that Thomas Quick and Rachel Emmana had their daughter "Rebecca" baptized on 26September 1742. This Rebecca would be of an appropriate age to be having children in the 1760s. The godparents for little Rebecca were Pieter van Aeken and his wife Russje [Jans Damen]. The appearance of the "van Aken" surnam! e encourages us thatwe might be on the right track :-). Jan Emans, widower of Rachel Stout, born on Long Island, and Neeltjen Van Aaken, young woman, both residing in the Minisink, married 18 November 1724. Their daughter Rachel was baptized on 3 October 1725 (Hoes #3390) at Kingston. The godparents were Johannes H. Schoonmaker and Zara Van Keuren. Both Neeltje Van Aaken and Pieter Van Aaken (the sponsor at Rebecca Quick's baptism) were children of Marinus Van Aaken and Pieternel de Pre. Neeltje was baptized on 11 September 1697 (Hoes #988) in the Kingston Church. The godparents were Moses du Puy and Marritje Wyncoop. And what about the ancestry of Thomas Quick, the father of Rebecca Quick? He was baptized on 12 August 1716 at Kingston (Hoes #2423), the son of Juriaan Kwik and Rebecca Tietsoort. The godparents were Johannes Rutsz and Catryntjen Beekman. Juriaan Quick was baptized at Kingston (Hoes #181) on 20 April 1679, the son of Thomas Theunissen Quick and Reimerick ! Jurriaens. The godparents were Jan Joosten, Maeiken Hendrixs, and Theunes De Key. It is also of interest that Thomas and Reimerick had a daughter named "Heyltje". She was baptized at Kingston (Hoes #580) on 21 July 1688 with her name spelled "Elletje", Godparents were Jacob Rutsen, Klaes Jurien, and Martha Rutsen. Their next child was a Daughter, Tjaetjen, bap. Aug. 27, 1727, m. Cornelis Kortright, dec. 6, 1747. Who was this Cornelis Kortright? Annetje, was born next, Bap. Feb. 10, 1734, m. Alexander Van Garden, May 6, 1750. Yes another Van Garden, how does he fit in with the others? I know nothing about Marya and Petrus. I do not have any record of Marytjen "Mary" (Van Garden) Kortright's Death. Ok. That is enough thought for now. Let me know what you may have extra on these people. If you have a will handy or some historical data/stories on them you would like to share with the group please do. Thank you for taking the time on the line so far. Jay Steffens

Thanks goes out to all that gave me a good lession on the usage of Holland and Netherland. Quite interesting how one country has survived and growen in grace all these years. Charles

Good Moring to all of you... it is 6:15 am...greetings from wet and dark not too cold, Brookings, Oregon... I have some TOPPINGS I can't locate who they were...I need and will appreciate any help you can give to me... One was my 8th gr grandmother, Ann TOPPING.... AND a 6th gr grandfather Hezekiah TOPPING & his unknown wife...and their daughter, my 5th grandmother Martha TOPPING... I know they all must be connected..they were all on Long Island...but don't know how... Any help you can give to me will be most appreciated.. Ann TOPPING b .............. d 1710 ................... md 29 April 1686 East Hampton, Suffolk, Long Island, New York TO Thomas 2) BAKER s/o Thomas 1) and Alice 1) (DAYTON) BAKER b 26 July 1654 East Hamtpton, Suffolk, Long Island, New York d 8 Sep 1735 ........................... I come thru their son Samuel BAKER b 3 Apr 1702 East Hampton, Suffolk, Long Island, New York d 16 Aug 1767 Bramford, New Haven, CT. md 21 Oct 1721 East Hampton, Suffolk, Long Island, New York TO Mercy/Mary SCHELLENGER d/o Jacob II & Hannah COCKLING b 4 Nov 1699 East Hampton, Suffolk, Long Island, New York d 25 Aug 1749 Bramford, New Haven, CT. ~~~~~~~~~~~~ Hezekiah TOPPING b abt 1680 ...................... d ......................... md bef 1705 probably Southampton, Suffolk, Long Island, New York TO ............................... Their only child that I know of was Martha TOPPING... she was my 5th gm Martha TOPPING b ...................... d....................... md abt 1735 Southampton, Suffolk, Long Island, New York TO James 4) HAINES b 1702 Southampton, Suffolk, Long Island, New York d 1762 Southampton, Suffolk, Long Island, New York Thank you very much Wilma Fleming Haynes gencon@harborside.com

Good morning again... I have more 8th and 9th gr grandparents...that I don't know much about.. I hope you will be able to shed some light on them... [8th gr gp] Hannah CONKLING b ....................... East Hampton, Suffolk, Long Island, New York d ...................... md abt 1688 East Hampton, Suffolk, Long Island, New York TO Jacob II SCHELLENGER b 1663 East Hampton, Suffolk, Long Island, New York d 28 Jan 1713 ....................... Their daughter was Mercy SCHELLENGER who md Samuel 3) BAKER they removed from Long Island to Bramford, New Haven, CT.. ~~~~~~~~~~~ Jacob II SCHELLENGER was the s/o Jacobus SCHELLINX & Cornelia MELYN.. [9th gr gp] Jacobus SCHELLINX / SCHELLENGER b .................... d .................... md 7 April 1653 East Hampton, Suffolk, Long Island, New York TO Cornelia MELYN b .......................... d ......................... Thank you for your help...I really do appreciate it. Wilma Fleming Haynes gencon@harborside.com

Hi I need a volunteer to cross check a copy of the 1830 Marathon census listing I just received against the 1830 census index. I can supply both; just need a pair of eyeballs to check it. The quality of the tape was SOOOO bad that the abstractor wasn't sure about the validity of the data. Please let me know if you are interested in taking on this task. Vicki

If you pull up a map you will see that Holland is only the small part of the Netherlands which includes the peninsula forming the western shore of the Zuider Zee and extending down to around Rotterdam. Regards, Charles Sullivan At 06:44 PM 11/16/1999 -0500, Charles R. Alger wrote: >Could someone please tell me the proper use of Holand and Netherland. >In data I just recived they two are used in the same sentance. > >I have puzzled about those two names for the same place even before I >started working with gennealogy. > >Thanks Charles > > >==== GEN-NYS Mailing List ==== >Have you considered joining the Rootsweb Genealogical Data >Cooperative? > http://www.rootsweb.com/

Hi all, I have been told by relatives in The Netherlands that there are two provinces, Noord (North) Holland, and Zuid (South) Holland. Therefore, to avoid confusion you should properly call the country The Netherlands and not Holland. And then they go right ahead and say they live in Holland! Sharon in Surprise, AZ Researching: KILLEWINGER, GOOSSEN, DE JONGE, OTTEVANGER and many others in Zeeland, Noord Brabant, Zuid Holland and Gelderland.

Could someone please tell me the proper use of Holand and Netherland. In data I just recived they two are used in the same sentance. I have puzzled about those two names for the same place even before I started working with gennealogy. Thanks Charles

I'm looking for info on Emily Mansfield .Brasher St. Lawrence Co NY? b.1852. Father Lewis Mansfield Mother AurilloBeaman . I know she m.in 1869in Mich to aFrancis WAIT. d. in Washington State in 1920 Would like to know about her before that ? Thank you Becky in AZ

At 8:36 AM -0800 11/16/99, Marge Minardi wrote: >Hi, could someone please give me the URL for this site. Thanks Marge http://www.nygbs.org regards m

There is a great web site at http://users.rootsweb.com/~deuhes/Hessen/index.htm . Although it is geared to the researcher of the German state of Hessen, it has a lot of wonderful links to other areas of researching in Germany. It may be a bit overwhelming at first, but once you dig through it, you'll be a pro in no time ;) Good Luck Stephanie Leary ----- Original Message ----- From: <GEN-NYS-D-request@rootsweb.com> To: <GEN-NYS-D@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, November 16, 1999 9:19 AM Subject: GEN-NYS-D Digest V99 #159 Hope someone can help. My great grandfather came to the US from Germany in 1869. According to immigration records his residence in Germany was Saxony Weimer Eisenach. My question - Does anyone have any idea what area of Germany that would be. Second Question. Do you think it would be possible to get a list of families from that area and time (1869) with my grandfather's surname. Hope these aren't stupid questions. I have never done any research in Germany before. Any help would be appreciated. Barb

Hi, could someone please give me the URL for this site. Thanks Marge