hello I hope this goes to the right place. I joined this New York list a few hours ago and got some welcome messages etc but the text of these messages is just strings of question marks, crosses and occasional numerals. Without the readable messages I can't contact the list owner direct. Is the list owner reading this? Can I have the correct messages please? Oh I daresay I'll get the gist of what's going on on the list but I'd like the proper story. I am getting the other messages okay. Polly Hamilton

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In a message dated 11/22/1999 3:50:12 PM Pacific Standard Time, MCasey863@aol.com writes: << In the film I'm reviewing now, my ggrandfather's name is spelled FLINN. It is listed with the same numbers such as "order of visitation" & etc. I believe it is an extraction of the original census but nothing is stated on the film that it is an extraction rather than the original. The handwriting is similar but different. It looks like the official census record at first reading. I've noticed other differences in the recording between my niece's copy and mine. Also on my film, the second ward has been written over and it's almost impossible to read the writing. I'm interested in researching that ward too. There's no explanation forthcoming from local LDS volunteers here. Has anyone had this experience with LDS films? Mary L. Casey in Michigan >> Hi Mary , and the list , I believe you are really looking at a copy of the Copy of The Census ..... Many people do not know there are / was Two Copies of every census made , One was kept by the state and the other was sent to the Census Bureau , These copies were made ( required to be ) by the Asst` Marshal , And I would emagine ' errors ' were made while this copy work was being done ..... It is quite possible that the LDS filmed both copies at different times , And you have a copy of both of them !! , Phil ..... maybe Charles S. on NYC ROOTS -L.. has a different slant on this !! I am sending him a cc of this note ....

Hi folks, A few years ago my niece in Las Vegas ordered the 1850 Federal Census for Columbia Cty. NY at her local LDS Library. On it, in the 1st ward of Hudson,NY the name of my ggrandfather, Michael FLYNN, is listed. She made a copy of the page and I have that in my possession. Since then I've learned there were more FLYNN'S living in Hudson at that time. I ordered the 1850 Federal Census for Columbia Cty. from my local LDS Library in Michigan to do more research. I'm reviewing that film now and have found there are some differences from the film she made a copy of. At first it wasn't noticeable but in further examination I've found more discrepancies. In the film I'm reviewing now, my ggrandfather's name is spelled FLINN. It is listed with the same numbers such as "order of visitation" & etc. I believe it is an extraction of the original census but nothing is stated on the film that it is an extraction rather than the original. The handwriting is similar but different. It looks like the official census record at first reading. I've noticed other differences in the recording between my niece's copy and mine. Also on my film, the second ward has been written over and it's almost impossible to read the writing. I'm interested in researching that ward too. There's no explanation forthcoming from local LDS volunteers here. Has anyone had this experience with LDS films? Mary L. Casey in Michigan

Hi: I am new at this list and looking for any connection with the HILLER family that started with Summers HILLER born in CT in 1766, moved to Charlton County, Saratoga, NY then to Elkhart, IN Most interested in finding the maiden name of his wife, Betsey and their marriage date. Any suggestions or help would be appreciated. George Chapieg@aol.com Descendants of Summers Hiller - --------------------------------------------------------------------- 1-Summers Hiller (May 31 1766-Mar 5 1835) CT, NY, IN SP: Betsey Unknown (-) 2-Sarah Hiller (Jul 29 1798-Aug 23 1874) NY, IN SP: Timothy Chapman (Sep 26 1789-Aug 29 1838) NY 3-Summers Chapman (Jan 28 1818-Aug 18 1818) NY 3-Henry Platt Chapman (Feb 28 1819-Oct 27 1885) NY, IN SP: Louisa Jane Sanford (DEC 22 1829-Nov 10 1912) NY, IN 4-Sarah Ann (Annie) Chapman (May 20 1851-Jan 26 1852) IN 4-Melville Somers Chapman (Sep 16 1855-Nov 13 1937) IN, MI SP: Lavinella (Lavina) Bowman (bat 1859-UNKNOWN) IN, OH 5-Harry (Henry) Sanford Chapman (Jul 12 1878-Jul 19 IN 1933) 5-Edgar Roy Chapman (Mar 3 1880-Sep 5 1925) IN 5-Arthur Melvin Chapman (Apr 1 1882-Apr 4 1958) IN 5-George Erastus Chapman (Sep 8 1883-Mar 15 1945) IN, OH 5-Ettie Louise Chapman (May 3 1885-Jun 16 1885) IN 5-Charles Hiller Chapman (Aug 31 1886-Apr 13 1955)IN,MI 5-Frederick Leo Chapman (Dec 1 1889-Feb 4 1965) IN 2-Isaac Hiller (Nov 22 1799-) 3-Jonathan Hiller (1822-) 3-James S. Hiller (1825-) 3-Edgar Hiller (1833-) 3-Almira Hiller (1836-) 2-Roswell Hiller (Mar 9 1801-Sep 28 1862) 3-Henry Hiller (1826-) 2-Comfort Hiller (Jul 17 1803-Aug 11 1847) sp: Ruth Eliza Unknown (abt 1800-) 3-George Hiller (abt 1829-) sp: Abby (abt 1833-) 4-Samantha Hiller (abt 1853-) sp: Unkn Shinn (-) 4-Josie Hiller (abt 1864-) 4-Joey Hiller (abt 1870-) sp: Unkn Mattern (-) 3-James D. Hiller (abt 1832-Dec 1851) 3-Delia Augusta Hiller (May 31 1842-Jul 28 1872) sp: Charles Marcellis Dunsmore (May 28 1844-May 16 1915) 4-Eugene Hiller Dunsmore (Dec 1 1869-Mar 9 1945) sp: Mary Alice Barry (Mar 20 1871-Feb 25 1956) 5-Eugenia Dunsmore (Nov 25 1893-Apr 26 1986) 5-Nellie May Dunsmore (Dec 27 1894-Jan 1 1979) 5-Marion Hiller Dunsmore (Jul 11 1896-Nov 1980) 5-Mabel Alice Dunsmore (Oct 24 1898-Jun 5 1960) 5-Frank Hermon Dunsmore (May 22 1901-Jun 30 1990) 4-Baby Boy Dunsmore (Jul 1872-) 2-Almira Hiller (Apr 17 1805-Jan 16 1837) sp: Unkn Holmes (-) 3-Adriana M. Holmes (abt 1833-) sp: Unkn Garr (-) 2-David Hiller (Mar 12 1810-) 3-Orrin E. Hiller (1837-) 3-Francis H. Hiller (1845-) 3-Sarah A. Hiller (1848-) 2-William Hiller (Sep 22 1811-Jan 15 1889) sp: Eliza (abt 1811-abt Sep 1884) 2-John Hiller (Jan 22 1815-Jan 23 1854) 3-Hiram R. Hiller (1849-) 2-Jerusha Hiller (Jan 3 1818-) sp: Unkn Davidson (-) 3-William A. Davidson (-) 3-Frank H. Davidson (-) 2-Amelia Hiller (Dec 18 1821-) 2-Alfred Hiller (Jun 16 1826-)

I am searching for any information on William BRIMER who married Katherine CAMPBELL on 16 Sep 1712 at Saint Annes Parish, Annapolis, Anne Arundel, Maryland. This is the sum total of what I know about this couple. I would appreciate an y information. Thank you, Marjorie Mamt1984@aol.com

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Thanks to all who answered my question on the DAR. I will check their website out, and see if they can help me. Carole Kelly Ontario Canada

New volumes and counties added: OHIO - Adams, Ashland, Athens, Belmont, Brown and Carroll MARYLAND - Frederick NEW YORK - Chenango, Delaware and Monroe total volumes indexed 25 volumes PENNSYLVANIA - Adams county restored http://www.wasatch.com/~dsam/sampubco/ (SAMPUBCO = Samuelsen Publishing Company - had county indexes for sale then before the lists were placed on Internet, in case anyone wonder.) W. David Samuelsen

I'd like to invite you to visit the Obituary Links Page. There are many sources for obituaries, cemetery inscriptions, mortality schedules, death notices, as well as birth, marriage, and anniversary announcements arranged by state and county. The URL is http://www.geocities.com/cribbswh/obit/ Also check out the Internet Research Room at http://www.cribbs.net/obit/room.htm Thanks! Bill Cribbs Cribbs-Krebs-Creps-Kribbs Family History http://www.geocities.com/cribbswh/cribbs.htm The Obituary Links Page http://www.geocities.com/cribbswh/obit/ Always Searching http://www.cribbs.net/as/

Would someone please tell me what the, The Daughter's of the American Revolution is. Thanks Carole Kelly

Janet, Birth records in NY State started in 1880. But, there may be Church records for back in 1822, also census with heads of household. Mike Burnett -----Original Message----- From: JLloyd6251@aol.com <JLloyd6251@aol.com> To: GEN-NYS-L@rootsweb.com <GEN-NYS-L@rootsweb.com> Date: Thursday, November 18, 1999 9:38 PM Subject: YATES COUNTY >Does anyone know if the county clerk in Yates County has birth records for >1822? If so, could you please tell me the address? Thank you, Janet >

Hello Listers All - HELP - I am trying to find my great grandfather's activities in NYS following his migrating from Denmark, around 1966 to USA, NYS, NYC. I have the dates of his marriage and first child in NY but no locations. I'm not looking for someone to do lookups for me, although it would be wonderful, but rather I'm trying to find the procedure that might help me crack the egg. For example, is it possible to do IGI search on the internet ? Is it possible to find marriage location ? Is it possible to find child birth location ? I have all names and dates of events, but I do not have locations, counties, cities, etc. Is there a possible way to find Naturalization records on individual ? I haven't furnished any names or dates at this time for the sake of time. I would be more than happy to furnish same if it would help crack the egg. Thanks to all, Tom Johnson TomJohn01@aol.com

Richard Thomson died 1874, he lived at Lexington and 33rd Street, his wife was Elizabeth Penman, children Martha and Richard. I am wanting particulars of his Death Certificate , particuarly his Parents and Birthplace. Can anyone help please. Jennifer Cole

NY City death certificates prior to the early 1880s unfortunately do not list the names of parents. For 1874 they should list the POBs of the individual and parents however. At 07:00 PM 11/20/1999 +1100, Jennifer Cole wrote: >Richard Thomson died 1874, he lived at Lexington and 33rd Street, his wife >was Elizabeth Penman, children Martha and Richard. I am wanting particulars >of his Death Certificate , particuarly his Parents and Birthplace. Can >anyone help please. Jennifer Cole > > >==== GEN-NYS Mailing List ==== >Have you forgotten how to UNSUBSCRIBE? >Visit the GEN-NYS-L Frequently Asked Questions (And Answers!) web page: > http://www.rootsweb.com/~nozell/GEN-NYS-L/FAQ/GEN-NYS-L.html

Hi, I am new to the list and am trying to get information as to YEDE MYERS. The LDS web site has him being born 1/16/1687 in NY and being the father of Andrew Myers, whom I believe is one of my ancestors, being born 5/29/1715 in NY. The Family Tree Maker CD #238 has Yede Myers living in New York City, NY in 1707. I would greatly appreciate any information. Mahlon J. Myers (Bud)

Let you know in advance.... the SAMPUBCO site will be off line 11:00 am to 1 pm Mountain Time, tomorrow November 20th. The ISP is replacing the web server during that time. You may / may not able to see any information 8:30 am and 11:00 am before the web server replacement or after 1:00 pm. The replacement is part of major upgrade the ISP is doing. http://www.wasatch.com/~dsam/sampubco/ W. David Samuelsen

Let you know in advance.... the SAMPUBCO site will be off line 11:00 am to 1 pm Mountain Time, tomorrow November 20th. The ISP is replacing the web server during that time. You may / may not able to see any information 8:30 am and 11:00 am before the web server replacement or after 1:00 pm. The replacement is part of major upgrade the ISP is doing. http://www.wasatch.com/~dsam/sampubco/ W. David Samuelsen

Hello, Is anyone out there researching or have an interest in the RENTON surname? I have started a Homepage up of a RENTON study World Wide. If you do have an interest, please email me, and I will forward on the homepage. Or we can discuss it further. "Looking for RENTON"S Dead or Alive the World Over" Kind regards Julie Clift Australia Got a hobby to share or just want a personal home page ? Build your own web site for free at http://www.homestead.com

Hello All, I am asking for any help anyone can give me regarding the dead-end I have hit regarding my WARNER roots in Genesee County, Michigan. The family I am seeking is that of WASHINGTON WARNER and his wife Mary (unknown maiden name). In the 1860 census, three of their children are shown: GEORGE (1847), LYDIA 1850) and EMORY BRADFORD WARNER ( my great-grandfather) (1852). All three were born in Flushing Township (Genesee County, MI). By 1880, Emory Warner has married CAROLINE PERKINS, whose family hailed from Jefferson County, New York and settled in Hemlock (Saginaw County), MI. Washington WARNER's occupation is listed as a shoemaker, a trade carried on by his sons. The 1860 census records also show that Washington and Mary were born in New York, but the 1880 census shows them being born in Pennsylvania. A book titled "The History of Genesee County" (MI) written around 1890, shows Washington Warner listed under "Overseers of the Poor 1848. There are Warner references in Eaton and Shiawassee Counties, MI. Family lore from my 95 year old cousin says The Warner family in Pennsylvania might have been from the Philadelphia or Pittsburgh areas, with a reference to "Pennsylvania Dutch," which surprised me because I have been told my Warner's emigrated from either England or Ireland. Yes, I'm confused too! Thank you for taking the time to read all of this. Any information will be 100% more than I have right now. Can I sound any more pitifully desperate? Sincerely, Kevin O'Brien Laguna Hills, California Researching: Dorchester Perkins Shannon Van Schaick Warner Ivall Lowe Gauley