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Hello Patty I can send you a series of maps that will show all of the details for Nelson, NY. Surrounding towns, cemeteries, churches, etc. Nelson appears to be, at this time, just a spot in the road or a location of a once known town. I use this mapping program in my engineering work and find it to be most helpful and accurate. Let me know if you would like them. They will be in JPG format as an attachment. Jim Isleton, Ca. USA > can someone tell me what county Nelson, NY is in? Is there really such a > place??

Nelson, NY is in Madison County. A useful web site to determine names of counties when the town, city or village is known is: http://sipb-server-1.mit.edu/geo? Tom Herson [email protected] Ithaca, NY

Town of Nelson, NY Christabell J Westcott, Town Clerk (as of 1998) 4085 Nelson Road Cazenovia NY 13035 315-655-8582 Population 1892 County of Madison Towns do not show up on road atlases. Look for the village of Cazenovia, SouthEast of the city of Syracuse. Go East from Cazenovia about 4 miles on US route 20. Nelson is on the road atlas, but there is no listing for a village of Nelson, and the population of the town of Nelson is low, so the Nelson on the map must be a hamlet. Grid EJ-6 on the (2001) Eastern New York page of the Rand McNally road atlas (no serious genealogist should be without one). Marty Irons

can someone tell me what county Nelson, NY is in? Is there really such a place??

Hi, I am searching for information on Elizabeth Coburn, born circa 1852, somewhere in New York. I have no other info than that. Does anyone have any suggestions? Thank you for any help! Wendy [email protected]

HANNAH HOES VAN BUREN Martin Van Buren March 8, 1783 - February 5, 1819 [35] Hannah Van Buren died 19 years before her husband was president. Angelica Singleton Van Buren, the president's daughter-in-law, acted as hostess __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Autos - Get free new car price quotes http://autos.yahoo.com

Additional, for Olive, [email protected], and general info: I was in error when I wrote that you could find more info on President Martin Van Buren's wife Hannah HOES in "Ancestry of the American Presidents", by Gary Boyd Roberts, 1995. Hannah was Martin's first cousin once removed. Maria HOES was Martin's mother, and it is Maria's ancestry that is shown in this book, not Hannah's. My mistake. I was confused by the surname HOES. However, there may be a link between Martin's wife and his mother. --------------------------------------------------------- For info on the ancestry of American presidents, you can find extracts from Gary Boyd Roberts' 1995 book at: http://www.rootsweb.com/~rwguide/presidents/ Select a president from the index, then you will see his ahnentafel listing for several generations (a subset of what is in the printed book). --------------------------------------------------------- For more info on President Van Buren's wife, try http://www.whitehouse.gov/history/firstladies/hvb8.html >From there you can click on "presidents", then select any president from George Washington up to the present. --------------------------------------------------------- I highly recommend Gary Boyd Roberts' (1995 version) of "Ancestry of the American Presidents". In addition to ahnentafel listings it shows relationships between presidents, Mayflower lineage, relationship to royalty. If you're a descendant of early New England families you might find your ancestors in this book, and learn your relationship to US presidents. I did. Marty Irons

For Olive, [email protected], who wrote: "I have just done a bit of web searching but cannot seem to come up with much information on the mother of Martin - has anyone done extensive research on this family?" Which Martin Van Buren??? There were many of them. If you are referring to the 8th president of the US, see Gary Boyd Roberts' "Ancestry of the American Presidents", in which Martin's ancestors including his mother are discussed. It even show's his mother's first husband's name, and her parents for several generations. She appears on 3 pages. This is a classical work by a nationally-known genealogical scholar. A "must-have" for any genealogical society. Sold by NEHGS. Although it discusses President Van Buren's ancestors, it does not discuss all the relatives of his ancestors, so you will not find Anna Gerder/Garter in this book. Marty Irons

Some years ago while researching our Dutch ancestors in early New York, information was found, in more than one place, that states our Anna Gerder/Garter [so often mistakenly called Anna (Nancy) Gartrant for some reason] was a cousin of Martin Van Buren's mother. I have just done a bit of web searching but cannot seem to come up with much information on the mother of Martin - has anyone done extensive research on this family? Anna Gerder/Garter was the d/o Robert Gerder/Garter and Elisabeth Cromwell; born 03 June 1722 in Schenectedy. It would be interesting to make a connection, but we, of course, wonder how true this "legend" really is. I took a quick check of the Vanburen Genforum but there are way too many messages to try to find someone who may actually be discussing this topic. Olive California

Anybody have any info on this line...Could he be the Loyalist who went to NB, Canada? And had a 2nd family? From Joe [email protected] Clearing House... Compulsive Genealogy Searcher, ARLT, CLARK, COSTELLO, COVERT, FALANGA, GUIDETTI, HIGGINS, KONEN, PARISI, RIDER, TOMPKINS, Van AUKEN & WAGNER Alexander CLARK #21396 b. Abt 1750, Probably Albany Co., NY, m. By 1779, in Probably Albany Co., NY, Nancy (Nency) GRANT #21395, b. Abt 1758, Probably Albany Co., NY. Best guess for birth date & location... Nancy: Best guess for birth date & location... I. Caty CLARK #21398 b. Abt 1779, Probably Albany Co., NY. Best guess for birth date & location... II. Elizabeth (Elisabeth) CLARK #21397 b. Abt 1781, Probably Albany Co., NY. Best guess for birth date & location... III. Alexander CLARKE #21428 b. Abt 1789, Probably Albany Co., NY. Best guess for birth date & location... Probable child of these parents.... Parents listed as Alexander CLARKE & Ann GRANT... ________________________________________________________________ GET INTERNET ACCESS FROM JUNO! Juno offers FREE or PREMIUM Internet access for less! Join Juno today! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/web/.

Anybody have any more info on this family? From Joe [email protected] Clearing House... Compulsive Genealogy Searcher, ARLT, CLARK, COSTELLO, COVERT, FALANGA, GUIDETTI, HIGGINS, KONEN, PARISI, RIDER, TOMPKINS, Van AUKEN & WAGNER James CLARK #20063 b. 1760, of Middletown, Middlesex Co., CT, d. 25 Aug 1815, At Sea off Africa. Sailed in the "Commerce" from Saybrook, CT, 6 May 1815, wrecked on the coast of Africa, 25 Aug 1815... I. James Pierce CLARKE #21380 b. 1786, Probably CT or NY, m. 9 Dec 1804, in 1st Lutheran Ch., Albany, Albany Co., NY, Elizabeth (Elisabeth) HILTON #21381, b. Abt 1785, Probably CT or NY. James died 1832. Elizabeth: Best guess for birth date & location... dau of John HILTON... A. Elizabeth (Elisabeth) CLARK #21385 b. Abt 1805, Probably Albany, Albany Co., NY. Best guess for birth date & location... B. Lamberton CLARKE #21382 b. 19 Jan 1807, Probably Albany, Albany Co., NY. date is probably CHR. date rather than birth date... C. John Hilton CLARKE #21386 b. 3 Oct 1808, Probably Albany, Albany Co., NY, d. Young?. Date is probably Chr. date rather than birth date... Either died young or this is other son John... D. John Hilton CLARK #20066 b. 1815, Probably Albany, Albany Co., NY, m. 16 Nov 1843, in 1st Lutheran Ch., Albany, Albany Co., NY, Margaret HAZZARD #20067, b. Abt 1820, Probably Albany, Albany Co., NY. John died 1882, Probably Albany, Albany Co., NY. Son John CLARK (m. Ida McCLELLAN), had sons Walter V.C. and Jesse C. of Albany, NY... Margaret: Best guess for birth date & location... ________________________________________________________________ GET INTERNET ACCESS FROM JUNO! Juno offers FREE or PREMIUM Internet access for less! Join Juno today! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/web/.

The Orange County Genealogical Society is try to complete its set of Yesteryears periodicals which was started in 1957 and published continually for about 40 years by Malcom Goodelle. If anyone has any stray issues that could help us out and would like to donate them to our society please contact me. At present I do not know if there are any indexes to the articles but such an index would be a good volunteer project for someone local once we have filled in our missing issues listed below: Vol Issue (Whole Number) 1 1, 2, 3, 4 2 5, 6, 7, 8 3 9, 10, 11 22 85 30 117, 119, 120 31 123, 124 From Volume 32, Issue 125 through the end we would need them all as you can see below 32 125, 126, 127, 128 33 129, 130, 131, 132 35 133, 134, 135, 136 36 137, 138, 139, 140 37 141, 142, 143, 144 38 145, 146, 147, 148 39 149, 150, 151, 152 40 153, 154, 155, 156 41 157, 158, 159, 160 any others later than this if they exist -- not sure of last date of publication but I believe it was 1998. Dan Burrows

Seeking information on the following: William Hutchings, born 31 May 1803 in Ulster Co., Calif., died 23 May 1863, buried in Virgil Rural Cemetery, Cortland Co., NY. His wife, Sabra Atwell was born 27 Jan 1804 in Sullivan Co., Calif. and died 20 May 1875, and is buried in Virgil Rural Cemetery, Cortland Co., NY. Have no information on their parents ----- does anyone?? they had the following children: (1)John Hutchings born 1834 (no other information) (2)Rufus Hutchings born 1836 (no other information) (3)Westley Hutchings, born 1837 died 24 Dec 1898, buried Virgil Rural Cemetery, Cortland Co., NY. He married Sarah A Givens. She was born in 1837 and died 9 Apr 1877 and is buried in Virgil Rural Cemetery, Cortland Co., NY (does anyone know who her parents were? Or where she was born?) (4)Charles Hutchings was born 1840 (don't know when or where he died, or where he is buried) He married Mary E. Watrous, daughter of Edwin Watrous and Dolly Richardson. Edwin was born in probably 1808 in possibly Madison Co., CA. Other children of Edwin and Dolly are: E. Morrill Watrous.......(no other information known about him) and Morris Edwin Watrous born 11 May 1839 in Nelson, NY and died 7 Dec 1915, buried in Cortland Rural Cemetery, Cortland Co., NY. He married (5)Emily Jane Hutchings. She was born 28 Feb. 1844 and died 17 Feb 1934 in the Town of Virgil, Cortland Co., NY and is buried in Cortland Rural Cemetery, Cortland Co., NY. (Emily Jane is the daughter of Wm. Hutchings and Sabra Atwell.) This family is VERY confusing.........any help at all will be most appreciated............. Emily Jane Hutchings and Morris Edwin Watrous are the parents of my Great Grandmother, Leora Mae Watrous, who married my great grandfather....Harrison Charles Givens........... Patricia Givens Warner

The Orange County Genealogical Society is try to complete its set of Yesteryears periodicals which was started in 1957 and published continually for about 40 years by Malcom Goodelle. If anyone has any stray issues that could help us out and would like to donate them to our society please contact me. At present I do not know if there are any indexes to the articles but such an index would be a good volunteer project for someone local once we have filled in our missing issues listed below: Vol Issue (Whole Number) 1 1, 2, 3, 4 2 5, 6, 7, 8 3 9, 10, 11 22 85 30 117, 119, 120 31 123, 124 From Volume 32, Issue 125 through the end we would need them all as you can see below 32 125, 126, 127, 128 33 129, 130, 131, 132 35 133, 134, 135, 136 36 137, 138, 139, 140 37 141, 142, 143, 144 38 145, 146, 147, 148 39 149, 150, 151, 152 40 153, 154, 155, 156 41 157, 158, 159, 160 any others later than this if they exist -- not sure of last date of publication but I believe it was 1998.

I have just established a Rootsweb mailing list called NEW- NETHERLAND The New Netherland list is for historical and genealogical discussion of New Netherland (present day New York State) and New Jersey Colonies. New Netherland was settled in 1624 by the Dutch but was a multi-cultural colony. Anyone with an interest in, or ancestors from, Colonial New York or New Jersey is welcome! All discussion is welcome - please provide as many details as possible when posting and be sure to provide your sources for all information. Together we can make this a fantastic list for genealogists! To subscribe in mail mode (single messages sent to you) send a message to [email protected] that contains the word subscribe and nothing else. If you prefer digest mode (lots of messages in one email), send the subscribe command instead to [email protected] See http://olivetreegenealogy.com/nn/nnmail.shtml for further details and help. I hope to see you on the new list! Please feel free to forward this message on to anyone you feel would be interested in joining this brand new list. Lorine Lorine McGinnis Schulze -- * The Olive Tree Genealogy http://olivetreegenealogy.com/ * Past Voices:Letters Home http://pastvoices.com/ * USA Genealogy http://www.rootsweb.com/~ote/usa_genealogy/ * My Family Branches http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~myfamilybranches/ [email protected] or [email protected]

The questions I have are as follows: 1. Where can I write or find on the web for NYS marriages between 1870 and 1880? 2. Where can I write or find on the web for NYS immigrations between 1860 and 1870? 3. Where can I write or find on the web for NYS directories between 1870 and 1880? I am searching for a John Bran/d/t who came over from Germany in 1867/1868, Naturalized in 1873/1875. I am searching for a Mary Ortman/n who came over from Germany in 1868/1869, Naturalized in ??? These 2 people were married in New York State in 1870/1871. They had 2 children Mary b. 1872 and John b. 1874. Any help would be greatly appreciated. Thanks in advance Leslie Banister

Forwarded with permission ------- Forwarded message follows ------- Date forwarded: Sat, 13 Jul 2002 01:51:26 -0600 Date sent: Sat, 13 Jul 2002 00:51:41 -0700 (PDT) From: Sharon Sergeant <[email protected]> Subject: [ISFHWE-CGC] Massachusetts Public Records Closing Alert! Hello The Massachusets Genealogical Council (MGC) board http://massgencouncil.home.attbi.com/index.htm held an emergency meeting this evening in Waltham MA to review the text of an alarming, and recently introduced, Massachusetts House of Representatives bill H5158 (see links below for issues, status and contact information). The most pressing aspect of H5158, on preliminary review, is that it would close marriage and death records since 1950, as well as birth records after 1910, to public access - including their indicies! MGC is recommending that all Massachusetts residents contact their Representative and that all non-resident Massachusetts researchers contact a Massachusetts resident to represent their interests - immediately as the formal sessions close on July 31st - but impromptu sessions have sometimes been used to pass such legislation! ( see http://www.state.ma.us/legis/repdis01.htm for districts) The general content of the legislative protest letters should at least cover the following points, be sincere, personalized and not appear in a form letter format: ==================================================================== Dear (Representative Name): The Birth, Marriage and Death records (Vital Records) of the Commonwealth have always been open to the public with few specific exceptions. House Bill 5158, currently reported out to the Committee on House Rules, would close Birth Records after 1910 and Marriage and Death Records since 1950 to public access. We ask that you encourage further study of this Bill by the Committee on House Rules and that you vote AGAINST this bill should it come to floor vote. H5158 would affect every citizen of the Commonwealth. Among other things it would: 1) block access to recent death records so that family medical histories could not be ascertained; 2) increase expenses for persons needing to prove legitimate access to the Vital Records; 3) not affect the risks of identity fraud or theft which does not occur from personal inspection of the Vital Records. Again I/we urge you to defeat H5158. Sincerely, Name Address Contact Info =================================================================== Additional notes on the preliminary review of this bill: The Massachusetts bill H5158 is purportedly a rewrite of H132 (see http://www.state.ma.us/legis/bills/house/h00132.htm ). However, the full text of H5158 is not yet online and the MGC expects that further line by line examination of the H5158 printed text (36 pages) will uncover other issues of concern. In contrast, the MGC has been working on the Senate bill S2302 which may be reviewed at http://www.state.ma.us/legis/bills/st02302.htm All recent medical studies point to the statistical and anecdotal importance of medical information for multiple generations - and beyond immediate lineal or lateral descent lines. The H5158 bill could also remove access to the actual primary source record. It contains such items as "... Such examination, at the descretion of the Custodian, may be from an automated database. ..." The Birth, Marriage and Death records (Vital Records) of the Commonwealth of Massachusetts have always been open to the public with few specific exceptions (see http://www.state.ma.us/legis/laws/mgl/gl-66-toc.htm ). However, House Bill 5158, currently reported out to the Committee on House Rules, would close Birth Records after 1910 and Marriage and Death Records since 1950 to public access - as of January 1, 2004 when the inquirer must be proven to be ONLY the individual in question or the " spouse, children, parent as named on birth record, legal guardian, sibling, grandparent, grandchild, executor, authorized legal representative or authorized genealogist designated by one of the aforementioned persons in writing". Additionally, removing the indices from the public access will preclude researchers from even being able to narrow down the likely candidates for detailed record inspection - increasing the Catch-22 of having to prove a 2 generation or less direct lineal connection to the records in question - when that is the question! The H5158 bill does not provide funds for the expenditures of government agencies that would have to shoulder the new custodian and adminisitrative responsiblities for records archiving and access validation and/or refusal - such that even what the Custodian considers legitimate access request may not be administered in a timely fashion if the determination of legitimate access is not a funded administration expense. Identity fraud or theft issue is a claimed goal H5158 bill without regard to the actual identity fraud methods used and documented by numerous investigations - either in the old fashioned "complete fabrication", "trash scouring" and wallet/home robbery, newspaper obituary targeting and institutional insider records misuse - or the advent of the Internet and other electronic transaction interceptions. Identity fraud thieves are not prone to the methodical, time consuming and formal task of searching and requesting the Vital Records. You may monitor the status of this bill and check for the full text release at http://www.state.ma.us/legis/history/h05158.htm House, No. 5158 - Bill relating to birth, marriage and death records. 06/20/02 H Reported from the committee on Government Regulations 06/20/02 H New draft of H132 06/20/02 H Bill reported favorably by committee and referred to the committee on RULES OF THE TWO BRANCHES, ACTING CONCURRENTLY -HJ 1907 07/11/02 H Discharged to the committee on House Rules People who have representatives who are on these committees may find further information here: HOUSE RULES Room 167 State House Boston, MA 02133 Telephone: (617) 722-2692 It shall be the duty of the committee on Rules to recommend special orders for the scheduling and consideration of legislation on the floor of the House. Said committee shall be authorized to make ecommendations and propose changes in the rules for the purpose of improving and expediting the business and procedures of the House of Representatives and its committees. http://www.state.ma.us/legis/comm/h33.htm JOINT COMMITTEE ON GOVERNMENT REGULATIONS Room 472 State House Boston, MA 02133 Telephone: (617) 722-2120 It shall be the duty of the committee on Government Regulations to consider all matters concerning public utilities, gambling, the racing industry, the registration of various trades or professions, the issuance of licenses for the sale of alcoholic beverages and such other matters as may be referred. Members appointed to the committee: Sen. Morrissey of Norfolk and Plymouth Pacheco of First Plymouth and Bristol Joyce of Suffolk and Norfolk Fargo of Fifth Middlesex Baddour of Third Essex Hedlund of Plymouth and Norfolk Rep. Bosley of North Adams Ciampa of Somerville Caron of Springfield Candaras of Wilbraham C. A. Murphy of Burlington Festa of Melrose Nangle of Lowell Rivera of Springfield Bradley of Hingham Brown of Wrentham Hill of Ipswich http://www.state.ma.us/legis/comm/j17.htm ============================================================ The MGC welcomes all questions from interested researchers, as well as shared experiences from other jurisdictions dealing with ill- concieived, reactionary measures to identity fraud, privacy or records preservation and access issues. Please send your questions and suggestions to [email protected] If you are among the millions who claim early ancestors in Massachusetts - prior to the proposed 1910/1950 exclusions - and do not believe you will be impacted by such a law, please consult with your contemporary cousins and resident collateral lines. Your family will be affected! Thank you for your interest and support in this matter. Sharon Sergeant Program Director, Massachusetts Genealogical Council http://massgencouncil.home.attbi.com/index.htm

Hello all, I've added a bunch more German to NY ship passenger lists to the page, more to come soon too...over 100 ships on the page now! German (some with many French passengers), Irish, Italian, Scottish. Feel free to visit: http://khuish.tripod.com/ Click on Ship Passenger Lists in the first table of links. The larger table further down on the page also has pages dedicated to genealogy links for various states, including New York ....so stay a while and look around! Good luck! Kathy

seeking information regarding Joel Bishop 1805 - 1881 and his wife Maria Head 1808 1871. He and his wife were natives of Lansing, NY and came to Dryden, NY where he engaged in the manufacture of guns. They had eight children. I am seeking information about their parents......... "Genealogy is the art of irritating the living and confusing the dead!"