Looking for the book "Underground Railroad: From Slavery to Freedom" by Wilber Siebert. In it he lists for Monroe County Asa Anthony, Daniel Anthony,& Mary Anthony as operators on the Underground Railroad. The names from his book are listed at http://www.ugrr.com I am trying to find out what race they are. In the town of Alabama, NY, 1840 census under "Free Persons of Color" I have: ANTHONY, GEORGE one male under age 10 one male 24 to 35 years two females under age 10 two females 24 to 36 years 1850 census ANTHONY George 42 Farm Laborer Mary 40 Eliza 18 Nancy 13 George 11 Cornelia H. 7 Any guesses? I have free persons of color on my 1830 census too. At first I thought they might be Indians living off the Tonawanda Reservation but the names don't go along with the familiar names from there, even historically. Those names are: KNOWER, HENRY two males under 10 years, one male 24 and under 36 years of age one female under 10 years, one female 36 and under 55 years of age SHEALD, ELIJAH one male 24 to under 36 years of age one female under 10 years of age, one female 24 to under 36 years of age ------------------------------------------- Cindy Amrhein Town of Alabama Historian Genesee Co., NY ********************** Historian's Page - Alabama, NY http://www2.pcom.net/cinjod/historian/ Experience the town of Alabama in Genesee County, New York. History, tombstone inscriptions, census records, history of the Tonawanda Seneca Indians and the Iroquois. Enjoy a good murder mystery? Read about the murders of Polly Frisch. APHNYS (The Association of Public Historians of New York State) http://www.tier.net/aphnys/ Genesee County, NY website. Includes History Department, (under "Historian") http://www.co.genesee.ny.us/ The Genesee Area Genealogy Society lists the names and addresses for all the Genesee & Wyoming County Historians http://www.rootsweb.com/~nygags/hist.htm

I assume this is the Hugh Clark family you are referring to? I added the, 90 year old Hugh in 1975, as son of this Hugh... Anybody have any more to add to this family? Or any more Clarks of Ulster Co. born before 1900? From Joe [email protected] Clearing House... Compulsive Genealogy Searcher, ARLT, CLARK, COSTELLO, COVERT, FALANGA, GUIDETTI, HIGGINS, KONEN, PARISI, RIDER, TOMPKINS, Van AUKEN & WAGNER =============== CAUTION....ERRORS MAY EXIST... __________ CLARK #20272 b. Abt 1820, IRE. I. James CLARK #20271 b. ca 1847, IRE, occupation Boatman, m. Abt 1870, in Probably Ulster Co., NY, Susan BURNS #20270, b. ca 1853, Ulster Co., NY. James died By 1900, Probably Port Ewen, Ulster Co., NY, 1880, Port Ewen, Ulster Co., NY. Susan: Best guess for birth date & location... daughter of Absalom and Sarah Burns (born Ireland)... II. Hugh CLARK #20273 b. ca 1846, IRE, m. Abt 1900, in Probably NY, Susan BURNS #20270, b. ca 1853, Ulster Co., NY. Hugh died Bef 1910, Probably Port Ewen, Ulster Co., NY, 1900, Port Ewen, Ulster Co., NY. Best guess for birth date & location... From IRE to US in 1850... Previously married and had 5 or 6 children from that marriage, but only 4 were living by 1900, born in Colorado... He Married his brothers widow... Susan: Best guess for birth date & location... daughter of Absalom and Sarah Burns (born Ireland)... A. Hugh CLARK #21579 b. ca 1885, CO, Port Ewen, Ulster Co., NY. ae 90 in 1975. Probable child of these parents.... Came to Port Ewen ae 8... ============================== This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/5RB.2ACE/913.1 Message Board Post: In THE TOWN OF ESOPUS STORY there is a wonderful picture of Hugh Clark at the age of 90 in 1975. It says he was born in Colorado and his family moved to Port Ewen when he was 8. If you email me your snail mail address, (and mention Hugh Clark please) I will photocopy the page for you.. There are also several references in the index for other Clarks from Esopus. Sharon - [email protected]

Anybody have any connection? Especially looking for parents of Anna RIDER/RYDER.. From Joe [email protected] Clearing House... Compulsive Genealogy Searcher, ARLT, CLARK, COSTELLO, COVERT, FALANGA, GUIDETTI, HIGGINS, KONEN, PARISI, RIDER, TOMPKINS, Van AUKEN & WAGNER =============================== CAUTION...SOME DATA MAY BE IN ERROR.... William (COVART) COVERT #322 b. 18 May 1791, Dutchss/Putnm, NY, occupation Farmer in 1850, m. 7 Nov 1814, in Sullivan Co., NY, Anna (RYDER) RIDER #323, b. 7 Apr 1798, Orange Co., NY, d. 23 Feb 1859, Probably Sullivan Co., NY, 1850, Lumberland Twp., Sullivan Co., NY. William died 5 Feb 1875, Highland Twp, Sullivan Co., NY, buried: 1875, Mongaup Cem, Sullivan, NY. Per Grave Stone: died Feb 5, 1875, Aged 85 Years, 8 Mo 16 Days (b. ca 20 May 1789). Apparently moved to MN with son, bought property, then returned to NY to die... Anna: Anna's mother was scalped by indians at the old well in Glen Spey opp. the now restaurant on Sullivan Co. Road #42. (I12)... Per 1850 census, living Lumberland Sull NY w/husb & 2 kids, bn c1798, NY, living w/them, Catherine RIDER, age 90 (b. 1760), (moth/aunt?)... Per 1855 NYS census, living Sull Co 30 yrs, age 58, b. Orange Co. NY,own home I. James Rider COVART #430 b. 28 May 1816, Sullivan Co., NY, occupation Farmer, m. Bef 1842, in Probably NY, Martha A. COREY #437, b. Cir 1824, Sullivan Co., NY, d. 12 Aug 1901, buried: Glen Spey Cem, Sullivan, NY. James died 24 Feb 1887, buried: Glen Spey Cem, Sullivan, NY. 1880 census has birth year as 1818. Per 1850 census, living Lumberland Sull NY, w/wife & 4 kids, dob cir 1820. Per 1870 census, living Lumberland w/wife & 7 kids, age 54. (COVERT) Martha: Tombstone Has Maiden Name as "COREY" not "CORREY" Per 1850 census, living Lumberland Sull NY w/husb & 4 kids, dob cir 1828. A Betsy COREY was Adm. 7 Feb 1884, 1st Cong Ch of Lumberland, Sull, NY... II. Phoebe Jane COVART #431 b. 20 May 1818, Sullivan Co., NY, Baptized 28 Jun 1835, 1st Cong Ch of Lumberland, Sull, NY, m. 08 Jul 1837, Samuel C. MANEY #436, b. 9 Oct 1808, Probably NY, d. 13 Jun 1888, Probably Lumberland, Sullivan Co., NY, buried: VanTuyl Cem., Hillside, Sullivan Co., NY. Phoebe died 28 Jan 1883, Probably Sullivan Co., NY, buried: VanTuyl Cem., Hillside, Sullivan Co., NY. Assume that this is the Phebe Jane COOVERT mentioned in Ch. records... Phebe J. Maney, born May 21, 1818, died Jan 28, 1883, age 64 yr 8 mo 7 da Samuel: or MANNING... A "MANA" is listed in ch records after Phebe Jane, as deceased 28 Jan 1883, assume this is him... Samuel C. Maney, born Oct 9, 1808, died June 13, 1888, 74 yr 8 mo 4 das... (74 is probably 79) See: http://www.rootsweb.com/~nysulliv/vantuyl.txt, for possible children. III. Margaret Ann COVART #432 b. 21 Jul 1820, Sullivan Co., NY, m. Martin SIDDLES #562. Margaret died 09 Jan 1859. Martin: or SIDELS. (is he of the Decker-Siddles family of Germantown, Port Jervis, NY). IV. William Hector COVERT #433 b. 29 Mar 1823, Sullivan Co., NY, m. By 1847, in Orange Co., NY, Isabella CLARK #3982, b. ca 1823, SCT, d. 1913, MN. William died 12 Nov 1891, Monticello, Wright Co., MN, buried: Old Cem, Monticello, Wright Co., MN. Masonic Symbol on Grave Stone in Mongaup Cem, Sullivan, NY, unable to read... (probably not this person)... A "William CONANT Jr.", paid pew Rent Jan 1850, Dutch Ch. of Wurtsboro, NY (probably not this person)... Came to WI then MN... Isabella: Per 1860 census MN, children: Covert, Sylvester, 13 M, b. NY; Covert, Wm., 11M b. NY; Covert, Annie J., 3 F, b. Wisconsin... Isabella came to USA ae 2 (1825). V. Catherine COVART #434 b. 05 Jun 1825, m. John WESTBROOK #3983, b. Abt 1820, Probably NY. VI. Joseph COVERT #435 b. 29 Apr 1828, Sullivan Co., NY, occupation farmer, m. Cir 1850, Sarah OGDEN #1200, b. Cir 1832, NJ. Joseph died 1898, Faribault, MN. Per 1850 Census, Name looks like "CONANT", age 22 (dob=1828), Lumberland NY. Married w/in year.. mar. Fanny (looks like Aglea??)...(Ed. Note:Sarah OGDEN) Moved to WI and then MN; elected to the MN Terratorial legislature and farmed near Faribault till his death in 1898... His wife, Sara Odgen didn't like Covart, so they changed it to Covert... VII. Harriette COVART #33 b. 29 Sep 1831, Glen Spey, Sullivan, NY, m. Cir 1850, in Sullivan Co., NY, George CLARK #32, b. 17 Oct 1822, Eldred, Sullivan Co., NY, (son of Wilmot (Wilmit) CLARK #1049 and Mary E. (Polly) VAN AUKEN #1050) occupation Farmer, d. 20 Sep 1885, Eldred, Sullivan Co., NY, buried: Sep 1885, Eldred Cem, Sullivan, NY. Harriette died 18 Mar 1889, Eldred, Sullivan Co., NY, buried: Mar 1889, Eldred Cem, Sullivan, NY. Admitted 1st Cong Church of Lumberland 7 Aug 1867; (d. 17 Mar 1869)... Per 1850 Census, living w/husb in Lumberland, married w/in the year. Per 1860 census, living Highland w/husb & 4 kids. Per 1880 Census Living in Highland w/husband & 3 children. George: Per C9, living in Highland in 1880 w/wife and 3 children. Per 1860 Census, living Highland NY w/wife & 4 kids. Samuel CLARK, blind, 78 bn NY (cir 1782) living w/them (relation?). has Geo dob as cir 1830. Per 1850 census, living w/wife in Lumberland Sull NY, married w/in year. Probable child of these parents.... VIII. Andrew Jackson COVERT #324 b. 25 Apr 1835, Sullivan Co., NY, m. Sarah PERRY #3984, b. Abt 1840, Probably NY. Per 1850 Census, living Lumberland Sull NY w/parents. IX. George R. (Washington) COVART #325 b. 26 Sep 1837, Sullivan Co., NY, occupation Farmer, m. 3 Jul 1857, in Beaver Dam, Dodge Co., WI, Eliza LEONARD #4682, b. 5 Dec 1838, Burns, Allegany Co., NY, d. 17 Jun 1924, Buffalo, Wright Co., MN. George died 6 Mar 1908, Buffalo, Wright Co., MN, buried: Lake View Cem., MN. Per 1850 census, living w/parents Lumberland Sull NY. Per 1860 Census. Living w/ father, wife, 2 kids in Buffalo, Wright Co., MN... Obituary in Buffalo Journal, 3-12-1908, p. 1: Died "after two years of helpless invalidism from paralysis." Moved to Wisconsin 1853>to Wright Co., MN 1857. Served 1864-1865, in Company B, 11th MI, Volunteer Inf., Was a mason Eliza: daughter of Hiram LEONARD and Elizabeth SPRAGUE... Also said to have been born in WI... youngest of 8 children.... Per 1920 Census, Buffalo: COVART, Eliza widowed, age 81, lived on Odell St, b. NY, parents born U.S... son Smith & his wife and dau living with her. ________________________________________________________________ GET INTERNET ACCESS FROM JUNO! Juno offers FREE or PREMIUM Internet access for less! Join Juno today! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/web/.

Hello All, I have Martin Van Buren's mother as Maria Goes. She was born in Claverack on 16 Jan 1747 and died in Kinderhook on 16 Feb 1818 at 71. Martin Van Buren married Hannah Goes on 12 Feb 1807 at the Haxton House in Catskill, NY. Richard

Thanks Bob. This will make it lot clearer to everyone when explaining our Government setup here in good old New York State. Pat of Chemung Co.

Hi Listers! I have been looking for over 25 years for my gggGrandfather and gggGrandmother's birthplace in Ireland. They are buried, along with several of their children in St. Paul's Cemetery. Andrew CANNON was born 'in Ireland' in 1785, died in Eastchester Oct 10.1855. Catherine (unknown) was born 'in Ireland in 1782, died in Eastchester Feb. 18, 1854 Have no idea when or where they were married. Son James was born 7/1/1805, died 1/30/1856 Daughter Mary born 6/22/1807, died 6/25/1835 Daughter Catherine Ann born 7/101812, died 9/15/1833 Daughter Antionette born 11/22/1815, died 9/4/1831 Daughter Martha born 4/18/1817, died 8/11/1835 Son Thomas Erwin born 11/1830, died 5/23/1838 Unnamed child of James Cannon and Rhoda (Barton) Cannon died !!/17/1841 The above was obtained by a kind caretaker from the tombstones at St. Paul's One son, John, who survived and moved to Newark,NJ is my ggGrandfather. I do not know if there were other children who survived. NOW, Is there some kind soul out there who can help me with the next steps I can take to find out where in Ireland I can find more family. Would there be a newspaper that might have carried the obituaries of Andrew and Catherine? >I have tried through Rootsweb but to no avail. I have (in the past) tried the Eastchester Historical Society and the Westchester Historical Society. No luck. A Catherine Carretta in 1981 (Westchester H. S.) wrote me that she found that James was a Constable in the town of Eastchester in the 1860's. How would I go about looking for wills and deeds? Andrew was a farmer. I do not even know how I know that. Will be coming to West Point for my husband's Korean War Reunion of sorts and hope to take some time to visit St. Paul's while we are there. I hope to at least take pictures of the tombstones while there. I have the grave #'s. Thank You Kindly, Joan Cannon Martin PS Does anyone have any suggestions for a hotel or motel in the area of St. Pauls or While Plains? > > ==== GEN-NYS Mailing List ==== > Visit the GEN-NYS-L web page: > http://www.rootsweb.com/~nozell/GEN-NYS-L/ > >

Also found the following which gives the two spellings of the name: HOES/GOES, Jan Tyssen, born circa 1630 d31May1705 m1 Brecht Marius widow ClaesVan Vorhout m2 Styntje (Christine) VAN HOESEN Issue by first marriage HOES/GOES, Matthys Jans, son of Jan and Brecht m Cornelia VAN DEUSEN she m2 William Janse HALLENBECK HOES/GOES, Annetje, daughter of Matthys and Cornelia m Isaac VOSBURGH __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Autos - Get free new car price quotes http://autos.yahoo.com

I checked the search engine on my web page and found Hoes in Green County (Catskill is in Greene Co.)and then found the following under Hoes genealogy on the net. ... Maria Hoes (1748-1817). ... Maria Hoes. Birth: 1748; Death: 1817. Maria married Abraham van Buren. ... ... Hannah Hoes married 8th President Martin van Buren, son of Abraham van Buren and Maria Hoes, on 21 Feb 1807 in Catskill, New York. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Autos - Get free new car price quotes http://autos.yahoo.com

On the bellow comment: Please be aware: In many areas of New York State, the problem of non-conforming postal zones leads to a situation where the majority of places have a different community name in their mailing address than the community where that place is actually located." BOY! Is that ever true! In my profession as an abstractor it is such a mess. The house can be in one town, the address for the town in another because it is the closest post office. Sometimes even in a different county. It happens quite often I will drive to one county to do a property search based on the address like Murray, NY which is in Orleans County, only to find that the road (and the house)is really in Monroe County. The mail goes through the Murary post office because its the closest. -- Cindy Amrhein Town of Alabama Historian Genesee Co., NY ********************** Historian's Page - Alabama, NY http://www2.pcom.net/cinjod/historian/ Experience the town of Alabama in Genesee County, New York. History, tombstone inscriptions, census records, history of the Tonawanda Seneca Indians and the Iroquois. Enjoy a good murder mystery? Read about the murders of Polly Frisch. APHNYS (The Association of Public Historians of New York State) http://www.tier.net/aphnys/ Genesee County, NY website. Includes History Department, (under "Historian") http://www.co.genesee.ny.us/ The Genesee Area Genealogy Society lists the names and addresses for all the Genesee & Wyoming County Historians http://www.rootsweb.com/~nygags/hist.htm

If there is any chance that the family is De Houx, please let me know. I have been trying to find out if there is any connection between these Van Burens and the wife of Jacob Verzelini, the 2nd glass monopoly owner in England who was a Venetian, by way of Bruges and settled near London. Honor >>> <[email protected]> 07/18/02 07:09PM >>> I have been surfing the net in an effort to get more information on Maria Hoes, the Mother of Pres. Martin van buren but do not find much on her. The most I found, by using my best search engine, was a relationship chart showing how Martin and his wife Hannah Hoes were related to each other but no where have I been able to find a Hoes/Van Hoesen gen forum; web-page or anything that I could search for more information. Some years ago those of us researching the Boyer family found "information" that states the wife of Johannes Boyer [who seems to be Anna Garter/Gerter/Gerder] was a cousin of Martin Van Buren's Mother. I just recently found out who his Mother was. Has there been extensive research done on the Hoes/Van Hoesen family tree? If the information we have is correct, Ann Garter/Gerter/Gerder was b 03 Jun 1733 in Schenectedy. Olive California ==== GEN-NYS Mailing List ==== Have you seen the GEN-NYS-L mailing list archives? http://archiver.rootsweb.com/GEN-NYS-L/

I have often seen the surname Hoes in the Reformed and Lutheran Church books for Columbia, Dutchess, Albany etc counties - so look on those County web pages and or get copies of those books. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Autos - Get free new car price quotes http://autos.yahoo.com

Good morning. I found this explanation of local government/postal areas on the Oneida Co., NY GenWeb site. I think it's very helpful. The LOCAL GOVERNMENT HANDBOOK, published by the State of New York Department of State provides some useful help as it has the official definition of cities, towns and villages. (Townships and boroughs do not exist in New York State and information about them is not included here.) Copies of this highly recommended publication can be obtained by e-Mailing "[email protected]". Cities, Towns, Villages, Hamlets and Postal Zones in New York State New York State is divided into counties. County A county is a municipal corporation, a subdivision of the state, created to perform state functions; a "regional" government All counties are divided into cities, towns and Indian reservations. City A city is a unique governmental entity with its own special charter. Cities are not sub-divided, except into neighborhoods which are informal geographic areas. Town A town is a municipal corporation and encompasses all territory within the state except that within cities or Indian reservations. Towns can be sub-divided into villages and hamlets. Village A village is a general purpose municipal corporation formed voluntarily by the residents of an area in one or more towns to provide themselves with municipal services. The pattern of village organization is similar to those of a city. A village is divided into neighborhoods, which are informal geographic areas. Hamlet A hamlet is an unincorporated area in one or more towns that is governed at-large by the town(s) it is in. A hamlet is divided into neighborhoods, which are informal geographic areas. Postal Zone "City" and "Town" A postal zone "City" and "Town" is an administrative district established by the U.S. Postal Service to deliver the mail. Postal zone "City" and "Town" may not (but are encouraged to) conform to municipal or community borders. Thus, postal zone location does not always determine city, village or hamlet location. Please be aware: In many areas of New York State, the problem of non-conforming postal zones leads to a situation where the majority of places have a different community name in their mailing address than the community where that place is actually located. Bob Saftenberg [email protected] http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~rsaft/index.html Chenango County Genealogy Resources and Cemetery Locations ================= On 18 Jul 2002, at 22:53, Rodney A Wainwright wrote: > Or the Village of Breesport in the Town of Horseheads, Chemung Co. > Breesport has no officials. They have a post office. Then there is the > Village of Horseheads that has a mayor, police force, etc. NYS can be > confusing unless you live here and then other states are confusing. > <grin> > Pat who lives in the Town of Erin which has an Erin hamlet. > > > On Thu, 18 Jul 2002 19:59:03 -0400 "Grant" <[email protected]> writes: > > A town in New York State is similar to a township In other states. Be > > careful however, as Towns and villages (which we refer to as a town > > in PA) > > can have the same name, Example the village of Webster, NY is in > > the Town > > of Webster. Grant > > ---------------------------------------------------------------- > > Prior 1900 - Pike, Bell, Henderson, Byers, Evans, Hart : > > > Germany: Whetzel, Miller, Bungard, > > > Friedline, Keffer, Grimm/Grim, Hart, prior to 1840, Conklin, > > > Donlon, 1800 - Baker, Travis, Crosby > > > > > > > > ==== GEN-NYS Mailing List ==== > > Have you seen the USGenWeb New York Page? > > http://www.rootsweb.com/~nygenweb/ > > > > > ==== GEN-NYS Mailing List ==== > Visit the GEN-NYS-L web page: > http://www.rootsweb.com/~nozell/GEN-NYS-L/ > > > Bob Saftenberg [email protected] http://www.geocities.com/rsaftenberg

Hello. I am looking for DAVIDSON Possibly in Delaware County. Little to go on I am sorry. Elizabeth DAVIDSON born @ 1790 married Nathan WIGHTMAN( various spellings) Their children were born in Delaware County but the information I have does not say where. I have found Elizabeth and Nathan on a 1850 Philadelphia census. Nathan was born in New London Ct But the census information shows Elizabeth born in NY or NJ. The writing was quite difficult to read. I am going with New York since the majority of their children were born in Ny Delaware Co and the Youngest (my line) was born in Phila in 1820/21. They were found under the Surname of WRIGHTMAN. SO thespelling could be different. I have found the surname of this line under Wightman -Wrightman -Witman Weightman- Whitman, etc. Not uniform at all. So I am thinking maybe if I could find Davidsons in or close to Delaware co it is at least a place to look. Any information is greatly appreciated. Thanks Kassie Oregon

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Or the Village of Breesport in the Town of Horseheads, Chemung Co. Breesport has no officials. They have a post office. Then there is the Village of Horseheads that has a mayor, police force, etc. NYS can be confusing unless you live here and then other states are confusing. <grin> Pat who lives in the Town of Erin which has an Erin hamlet. On Thu, 18 Jul 2002 19:59:03 -0400 "Grant" <[email protected]> writes: > A town in New York State is similar to a township In other states. Be > careful however, as Towns and villages (which we refer to as a town > in PA) > can have the same name, Example the village of Webster, NY is in > the Town > of Webster. Grant > ---------------------------------------------------------------- > Prior 1900 - Pike, Bell, Henderson, Byers, Evans, Hart : > > Germany: Whetzel, Miller, Bungard, > > Friedline, Keffer, Grimm/Grim, Hart, prior to 1840, Conklin, > > Donlon, 1800 - Baker, Travis, Crosby > > > > ==== GEN-NYS Mailing List ==== > Have you seen the USGenWeb New York Page? > http://www.rootsweb.com/~nygenweb/ >

At 04:03 PM 7/18/02, you wrote: >can someone tell me what county Nelson, NY is in? Is there really such a >place?? Is there such a place???? You bet! Check my Cazenovia, Fenner, and NELSON History Pages: http://www.rootsweb.com/~nyccazen/ Is there anyhting in particular you are after? Dan W.

A town in New York State is similar to a township In other states. Be careful however, as Towns and villages (which we refer to as a town in PA) can have the same name, Example the village of Webster, NY is in the Town of Webster. Grant ---------------------------------------------------------------- Prior 1900 - Pike, Bell, Henderson, Byers, Evans, Hart : > Germany: Whetzel, Miller, Bungard, > Friedline, Keffer, Grimm/Grim, Hart, prior to 1840, Conklin, > Donlon, 1800 - Baker, Travis, Crosby

It sounds like you are describing the "place" called Nelson that is located at the crossroads of Route 20 and the Erieville Road in Madison County. Erieville is a similar "place" a little less than 5 miles south at the junction of Erieville and Eaton Brook Roads. Both of these are named places, they could be crossroads, hamlets, neighborhoods, post offices, etc. Neither of these places are towns, however. This is an important distinction when it comes to doing genealogy in New York State. These named places commonly appear on road maps because they are identifiable points, whether or not there is actually anybody there or not. Towns define a unit of area smaller than a county and normally do not appear on road maps. Both places, Nelson and Erieville, as well as other named places such as Pughs Corners, Bucks Corners and Hughes Corners, are all located within the bounds of the Town of Nelson which covers a rectangular area approximately 6 x 7 miles in area. The Town of Nelson is an incorporated place (as are all towns in New York, as well as cities and villages) and therefore has a town clerk and likely courts and other offices that generate and (hopefully) keep records that would be of interest to genealogists. Chris Andrle ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, July 18, 2002 5:16 PM Subject: Regarding Nelson, NY > Past messages have described where this place is > > It consists of a few building, a farm machine dealer being the main one. It > used to have a restaurant that may or may not still be there. It is a large > enough town to actually have a hamlet (an even smaller town) called > Erieville a few miles south of it. > That used to be a rather nice little town but it is even smaller than it once > was. > I know it fairly well > > Bob Coomber > Rochester, NY > > > ==== GEN-NYS Mailing List ==== > Have you seen the GEN-NYS-L mailing list archives? > http://archiver.rootsweb.com/GEN-NYS-L/ > >

I have been surfing the net in an effort to get more information on Maria Hoes, the Mother of Pres. Martin van buren but do not find much on her. The most I found, by using my best search engine, was a relationship chart showing how Martin and his wife Hannah Hoes were related to each other but no where have I been able to find a Hoes/Van Hoesen gen forum; web-page or anything that I could search for more information. Some years ago those of us researching the Boyer family found "information" that states the wife of Johannes Boyer [who seems to be Anna Garter/Gerter/Gerder] was a cousin of Martin Van Buren's Mother. I just recently found out who his Mother was. Has there been extensive research done on the Hoes/Van Hoesen family tree? If the information we have is correct, Ann Garter/Gerter/Gerder was b 03 Jun 1733 in Schenectedy. Olive California

Past messages have described where this place is It consists of a few building, a farm machine dealer being the main one. It used to have a restaurant that may or may not still be there. It is a large enough town to actually have a hamlet (an even smaller town) called Erieville a few miles south of it. That used to be a rather nice little town but it is even smaller than it once was. I know it fairly well Bob Coomber Rochester, NY