Harper's New Monthly Magazine Vol. 30 Issue 176 pg. 266 A number of years ago, when those who are now steady and thorough-going business-men were boys living in the town of Livonia, Livingston, County, New York, they formed a debating club, which met in what is called the East School-house. Debating evenings the neighbors would call in to see what the boys were about. It was customary with the society to choose one of the spectators chairman for the evening, to hear the arguments and decide the question. One evening a fellow by the name of Solomon T---- made his .appearance He being a very knowing fellow, the boys thought, for the fun of the thing, they would make him chairman. Upon being announced chairman Sol took his seat with a great deal of dignity and importance. The question read as follows: "Resolved, that the negroes have more cause of complaint then the Indians." It was stipulated that the question should be confined to the United States. The chief disputant on the affirmation oopenedthe debate and made a speech to sustain his position, every word of which was listened to with close attention from the chairman. The disputant on the negative made a few remarks in answer, and then turned to the Bible and commenced reading passages for the purpose of proving slavery right, and by that means intended to show that the negroes had not been wronged. Sol heard him for a short time, and then jumped up and said in a loud voice to the speaker: "Stop right where you are. Don't go any further. You have gone out of the United States for argument." ------------------------------------ This is another one of those old humorous ones like the Minister story I just sent over, (which I thought was cute with a touch of local history) -- Cindy Amrhein Town of Alabama Historian Genesee Co., NY ********************** Historian's Page - Alabama, NY http://www2.pcom.net/cinjod/historian/ Experience the town of Alabama in Genesee County, New York. History, tombstone inscriptions, census records, history of the Tonawanda Seneca Indians and the Iroquois. Enjoy a good murder mystery? Read about the murders of Polly Frisch. APHNYS (The Association of Public Historians of New York State) http://www.tier.net/aphnys/ Genesee County, NY website. Includes History Department, (under "Historian") http://www.co.genesee.ny.us/ The Genesee Area Genealogy Society lists the names and addresses for all the Genesee & Wyoming County Historians http://www.rootsweb.com/~nygags/hist.htm

The Harper's New Monthly Magazine Vol. 45 Issue 265 June 1872 pg. 158 Uncle JOHN VERNAM, of Livingston County, New York, had a droll way of expressing his views, and evidently had some practical ideas about ministerial commissions. Every Christmas he sent each clergyman in the village of Mount Morris a first-class ham of liberal dimensions. Some years ago a new preacher settled in the town, and started a new sect. When Christmas came the old settled clergymen received their large hams, but the new apostle was favored with a small shoulder. Meeting Uncle John, he asked why he gave to the brethren a "big ham" and to him a "little shoulder." "Oh," said Uncle John, with a twinkle in his eye, "that's all right, all right. You come about as near to a minister as a shoulder does to a ham." -- Cindy Amrhein Town of Alabama Historian Genesee Co., NY ********************** Historian's Page - Alabama, NY http://www2.pcom.net/cinjod/historian/ Experience the town of Alabama in Genesee County, New York. History, tombstone inscriptions, census records, history of the Tonawanda Seneca Indians and the Iroquois. Enjoy a good murder mystery? Read about the murders of Polly Frisch. APHNYS (The Association of Public Historians of New York State) http://www.tier.net/aphnys/ Genesee County, NY website. Includes History Department, (under "Historian") http://www.co.genesee.ny.us/ The Genesee Area Genealogy Society lists the names and addresses for all the Genesee & Wyoming County Historians http://www.rootsweb.com/~nygags/hist.htm

Mary Stickney (Stanley, Stubby, Missy, Bob, Betty, Wilma , Boy , Koko , Shadow) Stickneys Toy Breed Rescue "Don't breed or buy , while those in rescue die." Dogs are like children , They act like the people who raise them www.chihuahua-rescue.com , www.crar.org ,www.ratbonerescues.com , www.weewiddleonesrescue.com , www.puppymillrescue.com , www.bostonrescue.net Who was my Father: http://www.alltel.net/~ms81250/ -----Original Message----- From: Andy [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Saturday, August 24, 2002 5:40 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Missing Child. We need your Help! Please Don't Give UP ! MISSING An AMBER ALERT has been issued ! Jennifer has been missing since 08/15/02 <http://www.sendafriend.com/jennifer/jennifer.jpg> Jennifer Renee Short PLEASE PASS THIS PAGE TO <http://go.MailBits.com/Tell.asp?11982.1269> HELP CLICK HERE PASS THIS INFORMATION Someone out who see this may know something. Even the smallest piece of information can help! Missing from Bassett, in the Blue Ridge foothills of Virginia. law enforcement officials said they have made no progress in the investigation Investigative leads are decreasing in the case of the missing 9-year-old girl and her slain parents. Police had reports of a vehicle that may have been seen leaving the Short house not long before the bodies were discovered. Police are hoping for any breaks in the case. There is the possibility of a red or dark colored van or truck or pickup Police are looking to expand their leads. PLEASE PASS THIS PAGE TO <http://go.MailBits.com/Tell.asp?11982.1269> HELP CLICK HERE Someone who sees this May know something. If You Have Any Information Please Contact your Local Authorities. <mailto:[email protected]> *The "Amber Alert," is a statewide alert aimed at aggressively publicizing kidnappings to help bring in tips. Such an alert was credited with assisting the recent rescue of two teenage girls abducted near Lancaster, Calif. You are currently subscribed to specials as: [email protected] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [email protected] OR click the following link http://pogolo.com/unsub/pogEnd.asp?list=specials <http://pogolo.com/unsub/pogEnd.asp?list=specials&idnumber=31659671> &idnumber=31659671 (C) Copyright Viral Marketing Inc. 2002. 847a 2nd Ave. Suite #333 NY, NY 10017 All rights reserved. Reproduction in whole or in part without the written permission of the copyright owner is prohibited. (Yeah, but feel free to forward it to your friends.)

Dear Fellow Genealogists: After many years of procrastinating I have made up my mind to publish a book-hopefully in 2005. My book is going to revolve around the three Scoville brothers: Samuel, Stephen & Timothy (Stephen, Stephen, Arthur) who settled in Cornwall, Litchfield County, CT about 1764. Many of their descendants removed to New York and Ohio, while other remained in Connecticut. If you are descended from any of these men, please write. While I have quite a bit on Timothy (my ancestor), I have scant information on Samuel and Stephen. Any info shared will with me, I hope, will at least have sources listed. You will be acknowledged as a contributor. If you have anything to share or know someone who may be working on their line, please pass this along to them. Thank you. Janice

Hi fellow NY family historians. This is an announcement of my new website, which has been under construction for months. It is a compilation of the family data in the county history entitled "History and Directory of Yates County, New York," by Stafford C. Cleveland, published in 1873 at Penn Yan, NY. I extracted the names of all the families and put them into a genealogical software program and then extracted a GEDCOM file from it. I then converted the GEDCOM file into HTML files for placement on the internet. Many years after I started working on the index to this history I learned that not only were my father's earliest known family ancestors residents of Yates Co., NY, but also it turns out I am distantly related to a number of the other early families through my mother's side of the family, and so because I think this history is an invaluable (and rare) genealogical resource, I decided to share the family data online. If you have relatives who lived in Yates County, New York or the adjoining counties, such as Steuben, Seneca, Livingston, or Ontario counties, or individuals who came from New York to Michigan, or other Midwestern states, such as Illinois, Indiana, or Ohio, you might want to have a look at my site. Thus far only 33% of the files are online, because I'm going through each of the HTML files to proofread it to make sure the entries are accurate and to ensure that the links work properly. When finished, there will be 19,082 individuals on this site, and over 6,500 families, so this means there are now in excess of 2,100 family files online now. This is NOT a transcript of the entire history, although over the years I have occasionally made transcripts of various portions of it to post to message boards and online archives, and when I have remembered, I have links to those extracts in the relevant notes. I have entered notes as to where the families originated if it is mentioned in the history and also where the families moved to when they left Yates County, if that is also recorded, but I did not enter much in the way of biographical information, such personal idiosyncrasies or membership in fraternal organizations or churches to any great degree. This was meant to be a research tool, not an end in itself. Please read the introduction on the first index page, since I put some relevant information as to what you will see when you access the HTML files and also links to where you might find additional information on these families. The URL is: http://freepages.history.rootsweb.com/~bbunce77/index.html Happy hunting!

Scientific American. / Volume 2, Issue 33 May 8, 1847 Page 259 REMARKS Tuesday April 27. The shock of an earthquake was felt in the evening, at Mt. Morris, Livingston County, N.Y., the sound is described like that of a rolling of a heavy wagon, and as somewhat between a crash of falling rocks. The houses in the village were violently shaken. In some places doors were unlatched and crockery thrown down. -- Cindy Amrhein Town of Alabama Historian Genesee Co., NY ********************** Historian's Page - Alabama, NY http://www2.pcom.net/cinjod/historian/ Experience the town of Alabama in Genesee County, New York. History, tombstone inscriptions, census records, history of the Tonawanda Seneca Indians and the Iroquois. Enjoy a good murder mystery? Read about the murders of Polly Frisch. APHNYS (The Association of Public Historians of New York State) http://www.tier.net/aphnys/ Genesee County, NY website. Includes History Department, (under "Historian") http://www.co.genesee.ny.us/ The Genesee Area Genealogy Society lists the names and addresses for all the Genesee & Wyoming County Historians http://www.rootsweb.com/~nygags/hist.htm

Just a reminder to those people who said they were going to send us recipes... you can email them to me if you like. And thanks for your indulgence! The Yonkers Historical Society is looking for recipes of current and former Yonkers residents, both famous and not-so-famous, to publish in our 50th Anniversary Cookbook. We need recipes for all types of food, everything from appetizers, entrees, vegetarian, meat and fish dishes to deserts, and are hoping to include recipes celebrating the wonderful ethnic and cultural diversity that is Yonkers. We would love to include your favorite recipes (we already have too many brownie recipes, so no brownie recipes are being accepted!); if you have one or several you would be willing to share, please send them no later than September 30th to: Nancy Sarmast Yonkers Historical Society PO Box 190 Yonkers NY 10710 When recipes are sent, please include a brief description of your connection to Yonkers, i.e., Board Member of the League of Women Voters, Teacher at Saunders High School, Graduate of Saint Denis School, former resident of the Nodine Hill section, etc.

If you'd like, I work at the FHC in Oneonta tomorrow. I could call around and ask. Let me know. joanne [email protected]

Just thought I'd pop in and say, as far as getting a license, as genealogy goes, we probably would need to look at the law of the times to know what the rules were for our ancestors. -- Cindy Amrhein Town of Alabama Historian in Genesee Co., NY Experience the Town of Alabama in Genesee County, NY. http://www2.pcom.net/cinjod/historian/ APHNYS (Association of Public Historians of New York State) http://www.tier.net/aphnys __________________________________________________________________ Your favorite stores, helpful shopping tools and great gift ideas. Experience the convenience of buying online with [email protected]! http://shopnow.netscape.com/ Get your own FREE, personal Netscape Mail account today at http://webmail.netscape.com/

The 112th annual reunion of the descendants of Deilman Bauer/Tilman Bower, celebrating 207 years in Lansing, Tompkins County, New York, will be held beginning at 2 pm on Sunday August 25th, 2002, in Pavilion E at Myers Park in Lansing, New York. To reach Myers Park, turn off Rte 34B onto Myers Road, opposite the Lansing Middle School. The park imposes a $2 per car charge. Bring a dish to pass, your own beverages and table service. There will be a Bake Sale and an Auction. Donated items for both activities will be gratefully appreciated. You may also bring information updating the family records with regard to births, marriages and deaths since last August. If you are unable to attend or would like to provide such information in advance you may send them to me at the e-mail address below. Please pass this information on to others who may be interested. I hope to see you there! Tom Herson [email protected] Ithaca, NY

After I sent my follow-up message, I realized that had not copied in the List on my response with the link to the correct information about marriage licenses. I am pasting it below: ***** This is absolutely untrue. Whoever gave you this information was mistaken. Take a look at this site: http://www.nycityweddings.com/services/MarriageLicense.asp I am an Interfaith Minister who does weddings all the way from Manhattan to Montauk on Long Island. You can get your license anyplace in New York State and get married anyplace in New York State. A couple from Canada who want to marry in NY City can cross the border and get a license in northern New York and then come down to NY City to get married. The only requirement is that the officiant (me) has to get the filled out license back to wherever it was issued (not where the wedding took place) within five days of the ceremony. In fact, very few of the weddings I've done (and I'm at about 80 of them by now) have taken place in the same Town or City at which the license was issued. I did one this morning in the Town of Islip with a Town of Brookhaven license. I did one last winter in Manhattan with a Town of Islip license. I did one in the Hamptons with a Brooklyn license. Etc. Etc. Etc. Joy Weaver [email protected] wrote: > In response to the posting about marriage licenses ... > > you have to get your marriage license for where you are getting married. > > I lived in village of Gilbertsville, town of Butternuts, Otsego County but > was being married in the city of Oneonta, Otsego Co, NY...so we had to get > our marriage license at the city of Oneonta's clerks' office. > > You cannot get a license in one municipality and then get married someplace > else...the license has to be from the clerk's office for the place you are > getting married. > > My father lived in the town of Unadilla, Otsego County, but was married in > Sidney, Delaware County...so he had to go to the town of Sidney clerks office > for his license, so his marriage info would be at either the town of Sidney > clerks' office, or at the Albany state vital records office. > Cyndie > >

Please understand. When I sent my response, it was not to be rude and I doubt others were either. Unfortunately, your information was incorrect even though it happened to you. You were given the wrong information at the time of your wedding. It caused you an unnecessary trip to get your license. But the reason I sent the correction (which included a link to a site with the correct information) was not to be nasty to you, but to help others who would have been misled by your post. Joy Weaver [email protected] wrote: > I can't believe the way people respond to an answer on this page. I > was the one getting married...I know what I went through to get my > license, so You can't tell me I'm wrong...I lived it and had to go > through it. > > sorry I bothered to even answer anyones' questions...won't do it > again. > > hope you look for ever to find out the answers!!!!!!!!!! > > how rude! -- mail to: [email protected] Locations of Long Island Friends Meetings: http://www.nyym.org/liqm Outline trees for: HALLOCK, HEAD, PALMER, SELDEN at: http://www.familytreemaker.com/users/w/e/a/Joyce-R-Weaver/ USA (northeast): Burnside, Green, Hallock, Head, Merritt, Morris, Palmer, Selden, Weaver./ CANADA (ON/QC): Brown, Clark, Grant, Weaver./ ENGLAND(Lanc.): Hunt, Wall. POLAND (Krasnik, Zaklikow, Lublin): Blumberg, Fogiel, Rozenel./ BELARUS (Wisoke-Litovsk, Brest, Grodno): Feinberg, Vilner, Greenberg, Petrusnitz, Deibach.

The Marriage license is what you get and give to who ever marries you........The certificate of marriage is what you get from the Town Clerk......................... Actually, I still have the notice from the Town Clerk from the Town of Cortlandville.....It says....... Enclosed is your marriage certificate on the form provided by New York State. This certified copy of your marriage record is to be used for legal purposes such as change of name for payroll records, social security, etc. If another copy is ever needed, you must obtain it from the issuing clerk, not whomever married you. Hope that explains it......... On Sun, 18 Aug 2002 17:54:29 -0500 "Sherry Diegel" <[email protected]> writes: > Dear Patty, > What are the ground rules for a marriage "registration" vs. a > "license"? > OR, do they differ? > > Sherry > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Patty Warner <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Sunday, August 18, 2002 12:59 PM > Subject: Re: marriage license > > > > You are wrong (unless things have changed)...........I was married > in > > 1987...........We got our registration in Cortland County but > were > > married in Tompkins county............the paperwork went back to > Cortland > > County and we received our license from Cortland > County.............. > > > > On Sun, 18 Aug 2002 07:34:49 EDT [email protected] writes: > > > In response to the posting about marriage licenses ... > > > > > > you have to get your marriage license for where you are getting > > > married. > > > > > > I lived in village of Gilbertsville, town of Butternuts, Otsego > > > County but > > > was being married in the city of Oneonta, Otsego Co, NY...so we > had > > > to get > > > our marriage license at the city of Oneonta's clerks' office. > > > > > > You cannot get a license in one municipality and then get > married > > > someplace > > > else...the license has to be from the clerk's office for the > place > > > you are > > > getting married. > > > > > > My father lived in the town of Unadilla, Otsego County, but was > > > married in > > > Sidney, Delaware County...so he had to go to the town of Sidney > > > clerks office > > > for his license, so his marriage info would be at either the > town of > > > Sidney > > > clerks' office, or at the Albany state vital records office. > > > Cyndie > > > > > > > > > > > > ==== GEN-NYS Mailing List ==== > > > Have you forgotten how to UNSUBSCRIBE? > > > Visit the GEN-NYS-L Frequently Asked Questions (And Answers!) > web > > > page: > > > http://www.rootsweb.com/~nozell/GEN-NYS-L/FAQ/GEN-NYS-L.txt > > > > > > > > > > > > ==== GEN-NYS Mailing List ==== > > Have you seen the USGenWeb New York Page? > > http://www.rootsweb.com/~nygenweb/ > > > > > >

Orange County Genealogical Society 1841 Historic Courthouse, 101 Main Street, Goshen, NY Saturday, September 7, 2002, 10:30 A.M. CITY DIRECTORIES: A VALUABLE RESOURCE ADDRESSES to WARD BOUNDARIES By Marilyn Terry City directories can be used for a wide variety of reasons, the most obvious being the residence of your ancestor. Other things you might learn; occupation, name of spouse, neighbors, churches, cemeteries. Let's say you know your ancestor worked as an insurance agent, do you know which insurance company? Did your ancestor own his home, rent, live in an apartment, or was he a boarder? This program will help you to understand the ins and outs of city directories. There may not be a city directory specific to where your ancestor lived, this program will provide you with ideas on where you might look. The use of a city directory around 1930 will save you a great deal of time when you are researching the 1930 Census, which is now available to the public. ABOUT OUR SPEAKER Marilyn Terry is 1st. Vice-President of the Orange County Genealogical Society and Program Chairperson. She has been interested in genealogy for more than 25 years and has done extensive research using local City Directories. THIS PROGRAM IS FREE AND OPEN TO THE PUBLIC As with most programs if you are traveling any distance it is always wise to call and make sure there aren't any changes in the program time or location. Call Marilyn Terry at 845-562-2749 or you may email her at [email protected] Our monthly meeting will be held at 9:00 A.M., which is open to the public. Why not join us for the meeting and stay for the program. Following the program our research room will be open from Noon to 4:00 P. M.

You can get a license in any town in NY then get married anywhere in NY State. Our license came from Town of Thompson we were married in the Town of Neversink by a Town of Fallsburg Justice. It is filed in Town of Thompson & Albany. My cousin got her license in Town of Wallkill but was married in the Town of Neversink by a Town of Fallsburgh Justice. Laurie ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, August 18, 2002 7:34 AM Subject: marriage license > In response to the posting about marriage licenses ... > > you have to get your marriage license for where you are getting married. > >> You cannot get a license in one municipality and then get married someplace > else...the license has to be from the clerk's office for the place you are > getting married. > > > Cyndie > > > >

You are wrong (unless things have changed)...........I was married in 1987...........We got our registration in Cortland County but were married in Tompkins county............the paperwork went back to Cortland County and we received our license from Cortland County.............. On Sun, 18 Aug 2002 07:34:49 EDT [email protected] writes: > In response to the posting about marriage licenses ... > > you have to get your marriage license for where you are getting > married. > > I lived in village of Gilbertsville, town of Butternuts, Otsego > County but > was being married in the city of Oneonta, Otsego Co, NY...so we had > to get > our marriage license at the city of Oneonta's clerks' office. > > You cannot get a license in one municipality and then get married > someplace > else...the license has to be from the clerk's office for the place > you are > getting married. > > My father lived in the town of Unadilla, Otsego County, but was > married in > Sidney, Delaware County...so he had to go to the town of Sidney > clerks office > for his license, so his marriage info would be at either the town of > Sidney > clerks' office, or at the Albany state vital records office. > Cyndie > > > > ==== GEN-NYS Mailing List ==== > Have you forgotten how to UNSUBSCRIBE? > Visit the GEN-NYS-L Frequently Asked Questions (And Answers!) web > page: > http://www.rootsweb.com/~nozell/GEN-NYS-L/FAQ/GEN-NYS-L.txt > >

Anybody have any Clarks in this part of NY? Even though census says he was born in NY, It may have been New England or PA.... Name Samuel CLARK, my #8757 Sex: M Born Cir 1782 NY Baptized Died Aft 1860 Probably Sullivan Co., NY Buried Other 1860 of Highland, Sullivan Co., NY Ref Occupation Per 1860 census, blind, living w/George CLARK & wife Harriette COVART in Highland Sull NY. Unknown relationship.... =============== Possible brother of Wilmot, Ephraim, & Thomas Clark of Sullivan & Broome Co., NY & perhaps PA... =================== From Joe [email protected] Clearing House... Compulsive Genealogy Searcher, ARLT, CLARK, COSTELLO, COVERT, FALANGA, GUIDETTI, HIGGINS, KONEN, PARISI, RIDER, TOMPKINS, Van AUKEN & WAGNER ________________________________________________________________ GET INTERNET ACCESS FROM JUNO! Juno offers FREE or PREMIUM Internet access for less! Join Juno today! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/web/.

Cindy, thanks for the sources. Do you know why it happened? I've written a couple of columns about this. It was because volcano Mount Tamboura in the Dutch East Indies exploded in April 1815. It darkened the skies for much of the Northern Hemisphere. Grave shortages of food in Europe brought political upheaval. Even Thomas Jefferson had to apply for an emergency bank loan because of failed crops! Killing frosts in New England continued through August 1816. People called this year w/o a summer "Eighteen Hundred and Froze to Death." Jean

In response to the posting about marriage licenses ... you have to get your marriage license for where you are getting married. I lived in village of Gilbertsville, town of Butternuts, Otsego County but was being married in the city of Oneonta, Otsego Co, NY...so we had to get our marriage license at the city of Oneonta's clerks' office. You cannot get a license in one municipality and then get married someplace else...the license has to be from the clerk's office for the place you are getting married. My father lived in the town of Unadilla, Otsego County, but was married in Sidney, Delaware County...so he had to go to the town of Sidney clerks office for his license, so his marriage info would be at either the town of Sidney clerks' office, or at the Albany state vital records office. Cyndie

I lived in town of Butternuts, Otsego County, NY when I married;.....HOWEVER, I was married in city of Oneonta, Otsego County, NY...so the copy of my marriage license would be found in the city clerk's records, Oneonta, NY...or at the state level in Albany... same holds true for birth and death records. My grandmother died in the City of Oneonta, so again, her death record would be on file at the city of Oneonta clerk's office....HOWEVER, her "official residence" was in town of Guilford, Chenango County...so her will was filed at the Chenango County courthouse. same holds true for birth records...my sister lived in the town of Butternuts, Otsego County, but went to a hospital in Walton, Delaware County, NYS...so the birth records would be found at the village of Walton's clerks' office...NOT in the town of Butternuts... You have to be be very careful when looking for vital records. Easiest way might be to just write to vital records in Albany, NY, but that could take months...try the local level first. Cyndie