In a message dated 9/29/02 8:13:18 AM Eastern Daylight Time, [email protected] writes: > Subj:Maccabees > Date:9/29/02 8:13:18 AM Eastern Daylight Time > From:<A HREF="mailto:[email protected]">[email protected]</A> > To:<A HREF="mailto:[email protected]">[email protected]</A> > Sent from the Internet > > > > I'm interested in locating membership records for a fraternal organization > called The Maccabees. An ancestor who died in 1917 had been a member so I'm > > obviously interested in the records preceding that time but any information > > on local or other contacts would be appreciated. > > Tom Herson > Ithaca, NY > Dear Tom, For a brief period during the 1970's, a group of York Rite Masons in the Monroe County area of New York State (Rochester) formed an organization known as the Order of Judas Maccabeus. The said order was originally composed of three branches known as the Order of David, the Order of Judas Maccabeus and the Order of the Temple. The order has not been in existence for quite some time. A comprehensive article had been written by Raymond R. Beardsley for the Philalethes Magazine, which was published in their October 1991 issue. For a back issue of the magazine, you may contact the Business Manager, Kenneth D. Roberts, 5266 Mary Ball Road, Lancaster, Virginia 22503; Fax # (804) 462-0376; e-mail address [email protected]; Telephone (804) 462-0384. You may also contact Raymond R. Beardsley, who held the office of Most Sovereign Grand Commander of the Grand Assemblage of the Order of Judas Maccabeus as follows: Raymond R. Beardsley 32 Kurt Road Pittsford, NY 14534-3946 Another fraternal benefit society that drew strength and inspiration through biblical teachers is the Order of Knights of the Maccabees. Originally founded in 1878 in London, Ontario, Canada, the order is built upon the legacy of the followers of Judas Maccabeus, the Jewish patriot of the Maccabees family who rededicated the Holy Temple at Jerusalem. According to the research author, Albert C. Stevens, "the name Maccabeus is said to have been derived from the Hebrew term signifying a hammer." It is also a derivative of the name Maccabi, which was "formed from the initials of the Hebrew words mi Kamocha baëlim, Jehovah, signifying 'Who is like thee among the gods, Jehovah?" In the second century BC, the Jewish People transferred their allegiance from Egypt to Syria and twenty-five years later the Syrian King, Antiochus Epiphanes IV, decreed that they were to renounce the Jewish religion and to worship solely the Olympian idol, Jupiter. The Jews were resolved not to comply with the heresy of the King and revolted against Antiochus Epiphanes IV of Syria under the leadership of their Priest Mattathias, the father of Judas Maccabeus. On the death of his father a few years after the thirty-years' war began, Judas took command of the Jewish People and through his military genius secured a new Jewish state in Judaea. The Order of Knights of the Maccabees incorporated the attributes exemplified by Judas Maccabeus into the fabric of their Ritual and philosophy. Specifically, his steadfastness and persistence, his wisdom in the use of power; and most importantly his humanitarian treatment of widows and orphans. It was said that Judas Maccabeus was "the first recorded military leader to have ordered his soldiers to reserve a part of their spoils for the widows and orphans of their fallen colleagues." The organization is divided into local units known as Subordinate Camps, with Great Camps at the district level and the Supreme Tent at the international level. At its inception, each member of the order was obligated to donate ten-cents to the widow of a deceased member, with a ceiling of $1,000. The Maccabees continues to function today in both Canada and the United States, claiming a total membership in 1994 of 3,500. During the mid-1920's the wife of a Maccabee member, Mrs. A.G. Ward, helped establish a women's auxiliary organization called the Ladies of the Maccabees of the World, which met in groups affectionately known as "Hives." Hope this information was helpful. Grip Mason

Hi all, At Obituary Central http://www.obitcentral.com I'm always on the lookout for new research resources on the web. Yesterday I just discovered that Google has a new feature called Google News. Now this isn't the newsgroups as in the past. This is an index of over 4000 news publications on the web. After seeing the new feature I decided to try it out and typed in a surname only to find an obituary that I've been seeking for several days! The URL for the new feature is at http://news.google.com/ Hope this helps! Bill Cribbs New York Marriages Index http://www.genlookups.com/ny_marriages/ GenLookups http://www.genlookups.com Obituary Central http://www.obitcentral.com Obituary Links Page http://www.obitlinkspage.com GenDirectory http://www.gendirectory.com

Listers: For some time I have been typing for internet viewing the miscellaneous portions of the 1890 Chlld's Gazetteer of Jefferson County, N. Y. By miscellaneous, I mean the parts not previously undertaken by others and now appearing on the County sites. Because of a specific request by someone whose ancestors were doctors, I've been typing the portion on the History of the Jefferson County Medical Society. I've now completed up to 1875 (started in 1807) and there's more to come. If you have need for knowing when a particular doctor may have practiced in the early years of Jefferson County (NY), this is a good place to look. Since many of the early doctors in JC, trained at Fairfield, N. Y., etc., there are citations of medical men there. There is occasional genealogical data and a few interesting stories. This will take you directly to the Medical Society information: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~twigs2000/medicalsociety.html You are free to print out these sections for your own library. All other fragments are accessible from my homepage under "Child's Gazetteer Fragments" at: (A personal website centered around life in Jefferson County, N. Y.) - http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~twigs2000 Shirley Farone

On 9/29/02 (7:18:03 AM MDT), Mary ([email protected]) asked, "Can anyone help me locate Eldridge or Elbridge, NY? Circa 1920's Parker family members owned a hotel called the Parker Inn or Parker House in this town, but I can't find the town and don't know where in the state it is/was located." The Village of Elbridge (incorporated in 1848) is in the Town of Elbridge in Onondaga County. I'm including after my name a NYS Geographic Glossary with the NYS definitions of county, city, town, village, hamlet and postal zone. I hope this information is useful or, at least, interesting. Sincerely, Walter Greenspan . Cities, Towns, Villages, Hamlets and Postal Zones in New York State New York State is divided into counties. County A county is a municipal corporation, a subdivision of the state, created to perform state functions; a "regional" government. All counties are divided into cities, towns and Indian reservations. City A city is a unique governmental entity with its own special charter. Cities are not sub-divided, except into neighborhoods, which are informal geographic areas. Town A town is a municipal corporation and encompasses all territory within the state except that within cities or Indian reservations. Towns can be sub-divided into villages and hamlets. Village A village is a general purpose municipal corporation formed voluntarily by the residents of an area in one or more towns to provide themselves with municipal services. The pattern of village organization is similar to those of a city. A village is divided into neighborhoods, which are informal geographic areas. Hamlet A hamlet is an unincorporated area in one or more towns that is governed at-large by the town(s) it is in. A hamlet is divided into neighborhoods, which are informal geographic areas. Postal Zone "City" and "Town" A postal zone "City" and "Town" is an administrative district established by the U.S. Postal Service to deliver the mail. Postal zone "City" and "Town" may not (but are encouraged to) conform to municipal or community borders. Thus, postal zone location does not always determine city, village or hamlet location. Please be aware: In many areas of New York State, the problem of non-conforming postal zones leads to a situation where the majority of places have a different community name in their mailing address than the community where that place is actually located.

People interested in finding out what county a city, village or town is in, may use the following web site: http://sipb-server-1.mit.edu/geo Tom Herson Ithaca, NY

Mary, the DeLorme NY Gazateer shows it as Elbridge and it's in Onondaga County along route 5 going west from Syracuse. Joy Mary Guler wrote: >Can anyone help me locate Eldridge or Elbridge, NY? Circa 1920's Parker >family members owned a hotel called the Parker Inn or Parker House in this >town, but I can't find the town and don't know where in the state it is/was >located. > >Thank you, >Mary > > >==== GEN-NYS Mailing List ==== >Have you seen the GEN-NYS-L mailing list archives? > http://archiver.rootsweb.com/GEN-NYS-L/ > > > > -- mail to: [email protected] Locations of Long Island Friends Meetings: http://www.nyym.org/liqm Outline trees for: HALLOCK, HEAD, PALMER, SELDEN at: http://www.familytreemaker.com/users/w/e/a/Joyce-R-Weaver/ USA (northeast): Burnside, Green, Hallock, Head, Merritt, Morris, Palmer, Selden, Weaver./ CANADA (ON/QC): Brown, Clark, Grant, Weaver./ ENGLAND(Lanc.): Hunt, Wall. POLAND (Krasnik, Zaklikow, Lublin): Blumberg, Fogiel, Rozenel./ BELARUS (Wisoke-Litovsk, Brest, Grodno): Feinberg, Vilner, Greenberg, Petrusnitz, Deibach.

Can anyone help me locate Eldridge or Elbridge, NY? Circa 1920's Parker family members owned a hotel called the Parker Inn or Parker House in this town, but I can't find the town and don't know where in the state it is/was located. Thank you, Mary

I am interested in locating any employment records or similar items for my great-grandfather, John Herson, nee Gelchenor, who, at various times worked for: The Geneva, Ithaca and Sayre Railroad (G I & S R R) The Lehigh Valley Railroad (L V R R) The Delaware, Lackawanna and Wilmington Railroad (D L & W R R) He shows up in Ithaca City Directories as being a railroad worker from 1876 to 1917, when he died. His occupations were listed as brakeman, fireman, engineer. He is also listed, at the time of his death, as an "engineer at the city pumping station." I am curious to know if the "pumping station" was railroad related or referred to a fire company or other such city operation. I would appreciate any help, guidance or information you can provide. Tom Herson Ithaca, NY

I'm interested in locating membership records for a fraternal organization called The Maccabees. An ancestor who died in 1917 had been a member so I'm obviously interested in the records preceding that time but any information on local or other contacts would be appreciated. Tom Herson Ithaca, NY

ONCE UPON A TIME IN SMALL TOWN AMERICA Presented by Marc Newman Saturday, October 5, 2002 10:30 A.M. Orange County Genealogical Society 1841 Historic Courthouse, 101 Main Street Goshen, NY 10924 ONCE UPON A TIME IN SMALL TOWN AMERICA will emphasize the importance of Villages and Towns such as Walden and Maybrook and their impact on both the National and State levels. Discussion will center on both the Economic as well as Social importance of both Villages in 19th and 20th century America. Marc will have copies of his book Walden and Maybrook available for purchase that he will sign. He will also bring numerous artifacts. Along with this there will be some entertainment that reflects part of the history of the villages. Off-beat historical information will be presented that is both entertaining and highly unusual that will make the day enjoyable and unforgettable. ABOUT OUR SPEAKER Marc Newman is a Research Historian who has been involved in historical research for almost 50 years. Most of this research deals with the History of the United States with specialization on the American Revolution, the Ante-Bellum Era 1850-1861 and the Old West regarding Lawmen and Outlaw History. Mr. Newman has been Chair-Supervisor of History for grades 7-12, while giving numerous presentations to students in the Elementary grades 3-6. Recently retired from 33 years of teaching, he has been Adjunct Professor at SUNY New Paltz, but spends a great deal of time working on numerous literary works, books, newspaper articles, magazine articles, documentary articles and visuals, journal articles and has developed/created 10 historical playing card decks of which his latest, BATTLE FLAGS of the Civil War and UNIFORMS of the Civil War will be forthcoming for pre-Christmas sales. He has been an active speaker and presenter in numerous counties and for many organizations including t! ! he National Council of Social Studies as well as the New York State Council for the Social Studies. His latest text is WALDEN & MAYBROOK and is working on a new series of playing cards as well as another book. These literary works will be marketed for sale in 2003. He is probably best known through portions of Orange County as GENERAL RICHARD MONTGOMERY which he portrays for the Village of Montgomery each year and by the time of this program will have made his annual appearance September 7th, 2002 on General Montgomery Day. 9:00 A.M. Monthly Business Meeting 10:30 A.M. Program Research Room will be open following the program from Noon to 4:00 P.M. Questions or additional information: Marilyn Terry 845-562-2749 [email protected] THIS MEETING AND PROGRAM IS FREE AND OPEN TO THE PUBLIC

Orange County Genealogical Society sponsors BASIC GENEALOGY CLASSES 2002 WHERE: Historic 1841 Courthouse 101 Main Street Goshen, NY WHEN: 6 Thursday Evenings October 3, 10, 17, 24; November 7, 14, 2002 TIME: 7:00 PM to 9:00 PM COST: ABSOLUTELY FREE but reservations should be made to assure sufficient handouts are prepared ahead of time. RESERVATIONS: MARILYN TERRY 845-562-2749 [email protected] Send a postcard to: Basic Classes, OCGS, 101 Main Street, Goshen, NY 10924 TOPICS: * Getting Started * Preparing Your Charts * Wills & Deeds * * Census Records * Library Usage * Using City Directories * * Correspondence * Vital Records * Cemetery Rubbings or not * * Compiled Sources * Using FamilySearch.com We realize it may be inconvenient for you to attend all sessions, but you will be provided a booklet with the handouts for ALL classes. Our course has always been well received and helpful for both the novice and the experienced researcher. No tests are given; so don't let that stop you from attending. ABSOLUTELY FREE AND OPEN TO THE PUBLIC

Seeking information for ancestors or descendants. My father was GEORGE SHEARMAN CARR (1874-1955) who,first, married Augusta Petraeus in 1901 in Brooklyn, NY. They had Emily,born 1901, who married ? Klein; Margaret, born 1904; Elise, born 1908; and George, born 1917. My grandfather was WILLIAM PATRICK CARR (abt 1821- 1861), born at Kilkenny Co., IR, married ELIZABETH ARTHUR FRENCH in 1848 at Antrim, IR. They had 7 children.William as a member of the Queen's Bench in Dublin.My grandmother was ELIZABETH ARTHUR FRENCH, born abt1827 at Antrim, IR, died 1898 (place ? ). I have some info on more CARR ancestors and would like to contact anyone related to them. My grandmother was EMILY SMITHERS (1854 - 1930) Am interested in PLACE she was born. Her father was CHARLES FRANCIS SMITHERS born1822 in London, England; married Martha Bagnall Shearman in 1844 ( place, unk) ,BORN 1825, died 1897 (place unk). CHARLES F.'s father was HENRY KEENE SMITHERS, BORN 1762. I believe the Carrs and Smithers lived in or near Brooklyn for many years. I will appreciate any help you can! offer. Thank you. Patricia CARR McDonald [email protected]

Thought NY list subscribers who live near Oakland Ca would like to know about this interesting seminar.....jane lindsey Gordon Remington, a professional genealogist, who resides in Salt Lake City, will be speaking at the California Genealogical Society on Saturday October 19, Oakland, CA 9:30 AM to 3:00 PM. Wine Reception and book signing from 3-4. Cost $25 Non CGS members $30 Gordon's lectures are entitled: "A Spurious Odor: Case Studies in Genealogical Fraud" "Needle in a Smokestack: Urban Research Techniques" "A Rich Legacy: New York State Probate Records" After the seminar, there will be a wine reception and book signing where participants can purchase Gordon's two great resource books for NY state published this past summer by NEHGS in Boston. The titles are "New York State Probate Records: a Genealogist's Guide to Testate and Intestate Records" and "New York State Towns, Villages and Cities: a Guide to Genealogical Resources". Free parking, Prepaid boxed lunches are available at $9.00 each. There will be books for sale and a silent auction for your entertainment. On Sunday, Gordon will be doing 20 minute tutorials to assist people with their NY or Urban research. There are only a few openings left. The CGS library will be open on Sunday from 9-4 for all seminar participants. For more information and registration form Visit the California Genealogical Society website at www.calgensoc.org or email the society at [email protected] Jane Lindsey [email protected]

I know this is a long shot but need any info available on Jacob Burns from New York and of Scottish decent. He had a daughter Eunice Burns whi married Samuel McGuire in Darke CO, OH in 1829. Eunice was born in 1808 in New York, Samuel's parents were Micheal McGuire and Elizabeth Hensley McGuire from Chowan Co, NC. Any help would be appreciated !!! Thanks, Marilee [email protected]

I don't know if this is the right list to request help in finding Daniel Dunbar (Daniel Joseph Dunbar) who was born in Canada in 1885, was in Buffalo from 1913 to 1920 and returned there in Nov 1921 according to the border crossing records. He has not shown up in the Buffalo directories or the SSDI. He may have been in Detroit in 1924. Can anyone advise me on where to go from here, I am stuck and researching from Canada!!. Thank you, Clare

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Hello to the Listers: I am not sure if it is allright to ask this question, but I am looking for some one to look up Clark, Christina in Schoharie and Greene Co and with whom she is living. The three towns that she might be found : Middleburgh in Schoharie Co and Prattsville or Kinderhook in Columbia Co. Thank you in advance Sharon

Good Day All, I do the website for The Association of Public Historians of New York State (APHNYS). On http://www.tier.net/aphnys/cohistorians.html you will find a list and address for all the county historians in the state. This is the most up to date list you will find, because they notify me as soon as there is a change. I also decided it would be benificial to genealogists and history buffs if I linked the county with the municipal (town/village etc)historians within each county. So eventually there will be a complete list for every historian in the State of New York. Some of the counties have links already so you can check them out. There, now isn't that easier then hunting for us? ;-) The web site also lets you know as historians what we are doing to preserve our state's history, and any current issues, in case your interested. The home page link is http://www.tier.net/aphnys/ I am proud to say that New York is the only State that requires by law that every municipality have a historian, which is 1600+ of us. -- Cindy Amrhein Town of Alabama Historian in Genesee Co., NY Experience the Town of Alabama in Genesee County, NY. http://www2.pcom.net/cinjod/historian/ APHNYS (Association of Public Historians of New York State) http://www.tier.net/aphnys __________________________________________________________________ The NEW Netscape 7.0 browser is now available. Upgrade now! http://channels.netscape.com/ns/browsers/download.jsp Get your own FREE, personal Netscape Mail account today at http://webmail.netscape.com/

Please, if anyone out there has access to the 1870 Census Index for Wilkes-Barre, PA I would be very greatful if they would look for: JACOB SAILE (OR ANY SPELLING OF SAME). Thank you, Barbara __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? New DSL Internet Access from SBC & Yahoo! http://sbc.yahoo.com