"John Reindl" <reindl@chorus.net> wrote in message news:424F2B7B.3070904@chorus.net... > Hi ~ > > Can anyone recommend some good web sites of searchable maps of Norway > that include farm names? As an example, the farm I am looking for is in > Stor Elvdal in Hedmark fylke, just south of Koppang, known as Vestgard. > > Thanks, > > John --------------------------- Use: http://ngis2.statkart.no/norgesglasset/default.html Choose "Stedsnavn" In "Søk etter stedsnavn" write Vestgard Søk In the list, choose Vestgard - Stor-Elvdal Move the Zoom-arrow to soon out or in. Kjell

On Tue, 29 Mar 2005 03:08:48 GMT, sloan@ishipress.com (Sam Sloan) wrote: >Sam Sloan is in line to become King of Monaco > >With Prince Rainier of Monaco on life-support and his condition >unlikely to improve, there is speculation as to whom will be the next >ruler of Monaco. > >Normally, the eldest son becomes the king, but Prince Rainier has said >that Prince Albert is "not ready". This apparently refers to the fact >that Prince Albert is not married and has produced no heir. He might >even be gay. > >For this reason, CNN News and other sources have reported that the >"investiture ceremony will not take place until a national period of >mourning has concluded." Normally, the new monarch is crowned >immediately after the previous one dies. Why wait? > >Because of doubts about Prince Albert, the law of Monaco was changed >to allow a daughter of Prince Rainier to become Queen. However, >Princess Stephanie got herself knocked up and had a bastard kid by an >elephant trainer and then for good measure she got married to a >trapeze artist, so she might get kicked off the list. >http://www.shamema.com/pafg827.htm#30425 > >Similarly, going down the list of possible heirs it seems that every >one of them is disqualified for one reason or another.?f > >Until one comes to the name of Sam Sloan, who is eminently qualified >to become the next ruler of Monaco. > >This is because Sam Sloan is the 13th cousin of Prince Rainier of >Monaco, one generation removed. > >Here is the proof: > >The mother of Prince Rainier Grimaldi III of MONACO was Charlotte Of >VALENTINOIS http://www.shamema.com/pafg826.htm#30417 > >The father of Charlotte Of VALENTINOIS was Louis II Honore Charles Of >MONACO http://www.anusha.com/pafg827.htm#30432 > <snipped> > >Thus, it is proved conclusively that Sam Sloan is in line to become >King of Monaco. > >Not at the head of the line it is true, but a few of the others might >be passed over to get to him. > >Sam Sloan Perhaps Sam Sloan will be elected in the conclave instead? Then, you could use the Swiss Guards to enforce your claim to Monaco. Ahh, i can see it now... one by one, the principalities of Europe will fall like dominoes under the iron boot of Sam. Lichtenstein, San Marino, Vatican City... I'll send you a gift basket when you get to St. Helena.

John Reindl <reindl@chorus.net> wrote in news:424F2B7B.3070904 @chorus.net: > Hi ~ > > Can anyone recommend some good web sites of searchable maps of > Norway that include farm names? As an example, the farm I am > looking for is in Stor Elvdal in Hedmark fylke, just south of > Koppang, known as Vestgard. > > Thanks, > > John Hi John -- I've used a service not intended for genalogy, but still rather informative when showing where stuff are *today* - the newspaper Aftenposten has a online classified section called "Finn" (Find). As part of that service they have a "find place" service - and that allows you to search by street address in the cities, and by matrikkelnumber in the countryside. Check it out here: http://www.finn.no/kart/ Both searchable and zoomable to the level where you can see individual farms. Above the map there are six boxes. The leftmost three are for finding addresses in cities and towns: Street Street no Postal code The rightmost three can find properies in the countryside: Knr - kommunenummer (municipal code) GNr - Gardsnummer BNr - Bruksnummer Gardsnummer (farm id no) and Bruksnummer (subfarm) you find from bygdebok or census. The kommunenummer you can find from e.g. http://www.ssb.no/kommuner/ or http://www.ssb.no/kommuner/komkat2005fylkevis.html If the search doesn't work, you can still find the rough locality of the municiapality from the ssb.no webpage, and then just zoom in on the finn.no map in that area and search for your farm. I can see quite a few individual farms when I zoom in to the map covering 35000 meters (20 miles) east to west. If you zoom in even further, you'll find Vestgard on the west side of the river, imme- diately south of Koppang Here is a direct link, tinyfied a bit - the string of parameters are 137 characters long :-) http://tinyurl.com/59yze Enjoy! Smile, Stein

On Sat, 02 Apr 2005 17:32:11 -0600, John Reindl <reindl@chorus.net> wrote: > Hi ~ > > Can anyone recommend some good web sites of searchable maps of Norway > that include farm names? As an example, the farm I am looking for is in > Stor Elvdal in Hedmark fylke, just south of Koppang, known as Vestgard. Hi, John. Travelgenie (google 'em, I don't know the URL offhand) used to sell the Statens Kartverk 50,000:1 maps. I have several of Hedmark. See which one you need & let me know, and I'll see if it's one that I have. I have mostly Ringsaker and Nes, and maybe one map to the east of those. Dave

Hand grenades and limes? -- Jane http://users.lvcm.com/jadams "Scaly Lizard" <scalylizard@nospampleaseyho.com> wrote in message news:1l2v415abj8msfrm91looojvo038ql982q@4ax.com... > On Tue, 29 Mar 2005 03:08:48 GMT, sloan@ishipress.com (Sam Sloan) > wrote: > > >Sam Sloan is in line to become King of Monaco > > > >With Prince Rainier of Monaco on life-support and his condition > >unlikely to improve, there is speculation as to whom will be the next > >ruler of Monaco. > > > >Normally, the eldest son becomes the king, but Prince Rainier has said > >that Prince Albert is "not ready". This apparently refers to the fact > >that Prince Albert is not married and has produced no heir. He might > >even be gay. > > > >For this reason, CNN News and other sources have reported that the > >"investiture ceremony will not take place until a national period of > >mourning has concluded." Normally, the new monarch is crowned > >immediately after the previous one dies. Why wait? > > > >Because of doubts about Prince Albert, the law of Monaco was changed > >to allow a daughter of Prince Rainier to become Queen. However, > >Princess Stephanie got herself knocked up and had a bastard kid by an > >elephant trainer and then for good measure she got married to a > >trapeze artist, so she might get kicked off the list. > >http://www.shamema.com/pafg827.htm#30425 > > > >Similarly, going down the list of possible heirs it seems that every > >one of them is disqualified for one reason or another.?f > > > >Until one comes to the name of Sam Sloan, who is eminently qualified > >to become the next ruler of Monaco. > > > >This is because Sam Sloan is the 13th cousin of Prince Rainier of > >Monaco, one generation removed. > > > >Here is the proof: > > > >The mother of Prince Rainier Grimaldi III of MONACO was Charlotte Of > >VALENTINOIS http://www.shamema.com/pafg826.htm#30417 > > > >The father of Charlotte Of VALENTINOIS was Louis II Honore Charles Of > >MONACO http://www.anusha.com/pafg827.htm#30432 > > > <snipped> > > > >Thus, it is proved conclusively that Sam Sloan is in line to become > >King of Monaco. > > > >Not at the head of the line it is true, but a few of the others might > >be passed over to get to him. > > > >Sam Sloan > > Perhaps Sam Sloan will be elected in the conclave instead? > > Then, you could use the Swiss Guards to enforce your claim > to Monaco. Ahh, i can see it now... one by one, the principalities > of Europe will fall like dominoes under the iron boot of Sam. > Lichtenstein, San Marino, Vatican City... > > I'll send you a gift basket when you get to St. Helena. >

Hi ~ Can anyone recommend some good web sites of searchable maps of Norway that include farm names? As an example, the farm I am looking for is in Stor Elvdal in Hedmark fylke, just south of Koppang, known as Vestgard. Thanks, John

"Brenda Hammond" <brenda_silvey@dccnet.nospam.com> wrote in message news:114sb8f3eb1lk1f@corp.supernews.com... > It's been mentioned to me that there is an emigration CD and I'm wondering > if someone can do a lookup for me? > > My great grandmother Signe Helfrida Andersdotter (Anderson) departed Sweden > for the USA in March of 1913 onboard the "Olympia". I have a photo of her > with 6 other people onboard this ship and I'm wondering if someone could > tell me who the other passengers were onboard the ship at the same time as > her? There is one entry for March of 1913: First name: Signe H Surname: Andersson Age: 0 (could be no entry) Parish: Dörarp, County: G (=Kronobergs län) Titel: none Port of departure: Göteborg Date of departure: 1913-03-28 Destination: Chicago, IL Co-travellers: Yes Source Code: 98:311:7834 Strange enough, there are no other passenger listed on the CD for that Source Code, which actually is the contract number for the travel. There were 17 other persons who travelled from Göteborg to various other places in the US. No-one to Chicago. Do you know her age? I assume she wasnŽt born 1913... You can mail me directly if you want more information. My email address is valid. Kurt F

It's been mentioned to me that there is an emigration CD and I'm wondering if someone can do a lookup for me? My great grandmother Signe Helfrida Andersdotter (Anderson) departed Sweden for the USA in March of 1913 onboard the "Olympia". I have a photo of her with 6 other people onboard this ship and I'm wondering if someone could tell me who the other passengers were onboard the ship at the same time as her? Also where the ship departed Sweden and where it was going in the USA? Thank you in advance for your assistance. Brenda Hammond

Hello, I'm looking for any information on ancestors and/or descendants of Wilhelm Laybourn (1842-1913). According to the IGI, Wilhelm was christened on 22 Oct 1852 in Rodovre, Kobenhavn. I am especially interested in his son, Robert Laybourn, who wrote the book 'The House of Laybourn from 1025 to 1938.' Robert Laybourn had three sons: Svend Robert, Georges Robert (who d. in 1937) and Norman Louis. I would very much like to contact Svend Robert and/or Norman Louis, if they are still alive, or any of their descendants. Thanks for any help. Bob Lightburn Point Pleasant Beach, NJ

ROTFL! -- Irvin ------------------------- http://www.pixel69.com "Dave Mayall" <david.mayall@ukonline.co.uk> wrote in message news:g42i411orhgs4iihcrvtvp3s0qgp4ej8m5@news.individual.net... > On Tue, 29 Mar 2005 03:08:48 GMT, sloan@ishipress.com (Sam Sloan) > wrote: > >>Sam Sloan is in line to become King of Monaco > > And will become the first king to be crowned wearing a straightjacket. > > -- > Dave Mayall

> > "Birgitta" <birgitta@starband.net> skrev i meddelandet > > news:97f3a$4247fd92$943f240b$12659@STARBAND.NET... > > > >>Hi > >> > >>In search of my maternal grandfather's birthplace > >>in the Swedish part of Finland I am looking for > >>a way - archives - to find out WHERE to start > >>looking. Would anybody be able to help me? > >>Birgitta Nilsson > >>Vero Beach Florida > > > > > > Hi Birgitta Maybe it would be worthwhile searching the HisKi-project database found here: http://www.genealogia.fi/historia/indexe.htm Probably not the easiest and/or fastest way to find your ancestors, and the parish records may not have been transcribed yet, but maybe still worth trying. Leif (from the Danish speaking part of Denmark....;o))

On Tue, 29 Mar 2005 17:24:49 +0200, Frank Johansen <frank_harald.johansen2@chello.no.remove.nospam> wrote: > Sam Sloan wrote: >> Sam Sloan is in line to become King of Monaco > > I really shouldn't bother.... You're right. He's a troll going back for years. Not worth the bandwidth. Maybe not as bad as DSH, but equally pointless.

"Robert Heiling" <robheil@comcast.net> wrote in message news:42484D5C.6807F084@comcast.net... > Paul Menso wrote: > > > What happened to the 3 daughters of Peter Samuelsson and Johanna > > Swensdotter from Furuby, Småland. Sweden? > > The 3 daughters: > > Charlotta Petersdotter (born 1844), moved 1869 to North America (probably > > together with Carl Johan Johannisson from Attsjö, Sweden) > > Eva Stina Petersdotter (born 1848), moved 1871 to North America > > Sara Lena Petersdotter (born 1850), moved in 1871 to North America > > The 3 girls were daughters of the great great grandfather of my wife. > > What happened to them? > > You have the reverse of my problem where I know almost everything about my > g-grandfather in the USA and back to the port of Copenhagen in 1879, but have > no way to find out what parish he came from in Sweden. Unfortunately, your > search is difficult because they are women whose names would change when they > married and who also had a very common name. > > If I were you I would post a lookup request for them on the CD-EMIGRANTEN. > Here is a description of what it contains. > http://longstrom.com/immigrationinformation.htm Perhaps someone who has the > CD will read your post and let you know if they are included on the CD. You > may be able to find out their intended destination in the USA. > > I would also request a lookup in the Ancestry.com Immigration Collection > and/or you could signup for a 14-day trial and do the lookups. If they can be > located on a passenger list, there might be more information. I canŽt find them on the CD Emigranten. In the book of births for Furuby, C:5, 1817-1880, page 37, is 1844-07-30 Charlotta, father Peter Samuelsson mother Johanna Svensdotter living at Attsjötorp In the Hfl AI:9, 1842-1848, page 125, Attsjötorp Peter Samuelsson, born 1821-05-02 in Furuby, came 1844 from page 163 where he is noted, went 1846 to page 1xx, canŽt find him on any page above 99. Wife Johanna Svensdotter, born 1812-11-22 in Ekeberga? Son Samuel, born 1842-11-25 in Furuby D. Charlotta, born 1844-07-31 in Furuby I can not find Eva Stina 1848 or Sara Lena 1850 in the book of births for Furuby, C:5, 1817-1880, which indicates that they have moved to another parish. And as I canŽt trace the family from the Hfl, IŽm lost. Sorry. Mvh Kurt F

Sam Sloan wrote: > Sam Sloan is in line to become King of Monaco <snip> > The father of Catharina Karlsdotter (Vasa) Princess Of SWEDEN was Karl > IX Gustafsson (Vasa) King Of SWEDEN > http://www.shamema.com/pafg748.htm#25051 > > The father of Karl IX Gustafsson (Vasa) King Of SWEDEN was Gustaf I > ERIKSSON KING OF SWEDEN VASA http://www.anusha.com/pafg758.htm#9426 > > Another son (by a different wife) of Gustaf I ERIKSSON KING OF SWEDEN > VASA was Erik XIV GUSTAFSSON (VASA) KING OF SWEDEN > http://www.shamema.com/pafg342.htm#9427 > <snip> > Thus, it is proved conclusively that Sam Sloan is in line to become > King of Monaco. [Sigh...] I really shouldn't bother.... But why on earth do you think a descendant of King Gustaf Eriksson Vasa of _Sweden_ have any succession rights at all to the Principality of Monaco...??? Regards Frank H. Johansen

On Tue, 29 Mar 2005 03:08:48 GMT, sloan@ishipress.com (Sam Sloan) wrote: >Sam Sloan is in line to become King of Monaco And will become the first king to be crowned wearing a straightjacket. -- Dave Mayall

Hej Hasse! Tack för snabbt svar. Min morfar Emil Wickman föddes 28 jan 1870 antagligen i Österbotten i Finland. I 3-årsåldern följde han med sin mamma + syster till Norrbotten i Sverige, där han bodde till 20-årsåldern då han ca 1890 emigrerade till USA, där han bodde i Jamestown New York. Från början hette han Vikman men tog sig namnet Wickman när han emigrerade till Amerika. Vid sekelskiftet ca 1900 återvände han till Sverige och träffade min mormor i trakten av Varberg, där de gifte sig 17 sept 1904. Mormors namn var Josefina Dorotea Stöberg från Förlösa i Kalmar län, Sverige. Morfar dog 22 aug 1926 i Bruzaholm Ingatorps socken Jönköpings län Sverige. Har ingen aning om VAR han föddes och tillbringade sina första levnadsår i Finland men förmodar det är trakten kring Vasa. Kan Du eller någon annan hjälpa mig att hitta sätt att ta reda på detta? Tacksam för alla slags svar om hur jag skall hitta vidare! Birgitta i Vero Beach FLorida Hasse Andtbacka wrote: > Hello Birgitta, > > try to start telling the name, date and place of birth of your grandfather. > Maybe there is a way to find what you are looking for. > > Hasse from Swedish speaking Finland. > > "Birgitta" <birgitta@starband.net> skrev i meddelandet > news:97f3a$4247fd92$943f240b$12659@STARBAND.NET... > >>Hi >> >>In search of my maternal grandfather's birthplace >>in the Swedish part of Finland I am looking for >>a way - archives - to find out WHERE to start >>looking. Would anybody be able to help me? >>Birgitta Nilsson >>Vero Beach Florida > > >

What happened to the 3 daughters of Peter Samuelsson and Johanna Swensdotter from Furuby, Småland. Sweden? The 3 daughters: Charlotta Petersdotter (born 1844), moved 1869 to North America (probably together with Carl Johan Johannisson from Attsjö, Sweden) Eva Stina Petersdotter (born 1848), moved 1871 to North America Sara Lena Petersdotter (born 1850), moved in 1871 to North America The 3 girls were daughters of the great great grandfather of my wife. What happened to them? Paul Menso, Sweden. --------------------------------------------------------------------- Home page on the Samuelsson family from Kosta, Ekeberga, Sweden. http://web.telia.com/~u30218258/ Computer secured with Norman Antivirus.

Hello Birgitta, try to start telling the name, date and place of birth of your grandfather. Maybe there is a way to find what you are looking for. Hasse from Swedish speaking Finland. "Birgitta" <birgitta@starband.net> skrev i meddelandet news:97f3a$4247fd92$943f240b$12659@STARBAND.NET... > Hi > > In search of my maternal grandfather's birthplace > in the Swedish part of Finland I am looking for > a way - archives - to find out WHERE to start > looking. Would anybody be able to help me? > Birgitta Nilsson > Vero Beach Florida

Good day: Still searching for possible Oftedal relatives. The "puzzle" yielded interesting and unexpected results. The initial mentioned by Olav, below is an "A" on the other envelopes. Likely the sender was Astri Oftedal; she was a contemporary of my Mother, Thelma b.1904, I explored the telephone book and found no promising results. My mother visited her cousins in Norway, in the late 1960s or early 1970s. The images are sown in files are located at http://www.rootsweb.com/~wajcgs/puzzle/back.jpg and http://www.rootsweb.com/~wajcgs/puzzle/front.jpg Many thanks to Olav and Arne for your efforts! Philip H. Kohl Olaf replied: Not sure how much help but here's a bit on the return address. The avs = avsender = sender. Not sure what that initial is, looks like a u but I doubt it. The surname seems to be Oftedal. The Holb. gt. is likely Holbergsgate (Holberg Street). There are undoubtedly quite a few in Norway and there is one in Sandnes, Aust Agder. As far as finding descendants, you might look for the Oftedal name in the telephone book: http://www.gulesider.no/gsi/whiteSearchFront.do Perhaps limit just to Sandnes. But Norwegians have been just as mobile as elsewhere. Olaf Arne Vasshaus provided more information: According to the census for eligible voters to the norwegian Storting living in Sandnes, Holbergsgate 4A in 1953, we have the folloving persons: Anna Oftedal b.1878, retired. Astri Oftedal b.1906, cleaningpersonell. Ella Oftedal b.1916, housewife. Hanna Oftedal b.1909, housewife. Olav Oftedal b.1910, mechanic. Sigurd Oftedal b.1904, bookkeeper. I hope this will be useful for further studies. Regards Arne

Paul Menso wrote: > What happened to the 3 daughters of Peter Samuelsson and Johanna > Swensdotter from Furuby, Småland. Sweden? > The 3 daughters: > Charlotta Petersdotter (born 1844), moved 1869 to North America (probably > together with Carl Johan Johannisson from Attsjö, Sweden) > Eva Stina Petersdotter (born 1848), moved 1871 to North America > Sara Lena Petersdotter (born 1850), moved in 1871 to North America > The 3 girls were daughters of the great great grandfather of my wife. > What happened to them? You have the reverse of my problem where I know almost everything about my g-grandfather in the USA and back to the port of Copenhagen in 1879, but have no way to find out what parish he came from in Sweden. Unfortunately, your search is difficult because they are women whose names would change when they married and who also had a very common name. If I were you I would post a lookup request for them on the CD-EMIGRANTEN. Here is a description of what it contains. http://longstrom.com/immigrationinformation.htm Perhaps someone who has the CD will read your post and let you know if they are included on the CD. You may be able to find out their intended destination in the USA. I would also request a lookup in the Ancestry.com Immigration Collection and/or you could signup for a 14-day trial and do the lookups. If they can be located on a passenger list, there might be more information. Bob