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    1. New URL
    2. Johan I. Borgos
    3. I've cut a few yards off my old web-site address. It now reads like this: http://www.borgos.nndata.no/ Please update if you have my old address among your bookmarks/favourites. Johan I. Borgos

    09/18/2000 08:42:45
    1. Searching for info on Victor Kirner
    2. joe
    3. Victor Kirner b: 1881 Vienna Married Hjordis Schlesinger b: 1886 of Laurvik (Laurvig) Lived in Kristiania (Oslo ) Any help would be greatly appriciated Barry Willis Ottawa Ontario Canada b.willis@home.com grandson of Victor and Hjordis

    09/17/2000 04:39:37
    1. Re: website for Norway aerial photos?
    2. Bubbles
    3. www.aftenposten.no/kart has great maps of the Oslo area where you can also get aerial photos or maps by clicking further. Marianne by way of Alf Christophersen wrote in message <4.2.0.58.20000914153938.01b20ea0@uio-pop.uio.no>... >Hello. Please let me know the website for color photos >of Norwegian farms. These were taken from the air, and >there was a list of all the towns. I thank you very much. The name of the >person who sent it started with the letter "A". My whole page of "OUTLOOK" >was erased. >TAKK. > >gladysjkj@dellmail.com > >-------------------------------------------------------- >Get your free DellMail address at http://www.dellnet.com > >

    09/17/2000 08:54:13
    1. test
    2. keisu
    3. test

    09/17/2000 07:27:34
    1. Odde i Evje sogn
    2. VIGGO NISSEN
    3. Min tip 5 oldefar Knud Gunnusen boede på gården Odde i Evje sogn i begyndelsen af 1700-tallet. Jeg kan se ved at søge på "Norgesglasset" at der stadig findes en gård med dette navn i Evje sogn. Er det den samme gård? Er der nogle der ved, om der findes billeder af gården? Er der nogle, der ved, hvor Knud Gunnusen er født. Jeg har ikke fundet hans fødsel i Evje eller Hornnes sogn. Med venlig hilsen Viggo Nissen niss@get2net.dk

    09/17/2000 07:15:36
    1. Re: website for Norway aerial photos?
    2. Otto Jørgensen
    3. 15 Sep 2000 07:30:07 -0700, in soc.genealogy.nordic, haraldfo@eunet.no (Harald Folvik) wrote: >You might be right for the cities, bu the land districts is better (Houses shown) on the Statkart version!!! > <clip> >> >> >I don't think this is the exact site you are looking for....but its a dandy >> >for Norway topo's. >> >http://ngis2.statkart.no/norgesglasset/stedsnavn/default.html >> > >> >> or use this >> http://www.hvor.no/hvor.asp >> <Cut> iI think that depend on what you are searching, I believe the use of both will give the best result. searching for different addresses are not the same, ieee search for "Badebakken 12 in Oslo" or search for Rostad or Buneset in Moskenes, will give different result -- Otto Jørgensen - 2020 Skedsmokorset http://home.online.no/~otjoerge/

    09/17/2000 03:53:34
    1. Hauser
    2. HAUSERAllp
    3. Could someone please tell me about the children of writer Heinrich Hauser, born 1901 in Berlin, went to America and traveled around the world and died in Diessen in 1955. I am especialy interested in his daughter born in 1929 in Germany, her name might be Ellsabeth and she is my birth mother I was born Peter David Hauser in New York City and placed for adoption in 1948 Please reply by emai

    09/16/2000 10:13:56
    1. macro excel genealogy
    2. Bertrand Cr�pel
    3. Hello from France Jean-François Campion has developed an Excel macro (GenArbre) which allows to build an optimized ancestry list (Sosa-Stradonitz number, surname, first name, occupation, dates). This macro is interesting and can especially be useful by persons who don't use a software to maintain their genealogy. It's also interesting for anyone who whishes to print simplified, but full ancestry reports. It's simply a little genealogic tool that can certainly be useful to you. You can download it (GenArbre) en ZIP format (about 50 Kb) on my web http://bertrand.crepel.org -- @micalement Bertrand - AGP 1850 GGRN 4269 généalogie en Flandres Artois Hainaut, CGW59, CGW62 sur http://bertrand.crepel.org

    09/16/2000 06:23:50
    1. Re: Translation needed
    2. Kelly Petit
    3. Stova/stugu/stue/= a little house. That's to say the house they lived in. As a farm was made up of many different little houses. Today it's meaning has changed and it's the living-room soleis/slik= thus kelly arleen wood <ajwood@home.com> a écrit dans le message : 39C27889.ED7728BF@home.com... > Thank you, Kelly! > > What does the word "stova" mean. Also "soleis"? > > Kelly Petit wrote: > > > > arleen wood <ajwood@home.com> a écrit dans le message : > > 39C11536.5821AA28@home.com... > > > Hi, > > > > > > The following is my attempt to translate Norwegian using various > > > dictionaries. Anyone willing to make corrections to my translation is > > > appreciated! > > > > > > Lars Person Vollen var frå Kolsete og truleg bror til Ola Person på > > LP was from Kolsete and probably the brother of OP living on Vollen 'in the > > forefront' (the farm you come to first on Vollen) > > > Fremste Vollen. > > > Kona hans heitte Mari Eirikdotter Fjora, ho d. 1805. > > His wife was MEF, she died in 1805 > > > Dei hadde ikkje born. Andre kona heitte Kari Rasmusdotter Kvam g. 1805, > > They didn't have any children. His second wife was called KRK, they married > > 1805 > > > ho d. 1813. > > She died 1813 > > > Tridje kona var Randi Jakobdotter Kvam, Dalen, g. 1814. > > His third wife was RJK, they maried 1714 > > > Lars d. 1832, 59 år. Randi og borni and borni hadde plassen til 1840. > > L died in 1832, 59 years old. R and the children had the farmstead until > > 1840. > > > Då kom ny plassmann > > Then a new farmsteader appeared. > > > Festesetelen 14-7 1840 fortel at eigarane av and > > > øydegarden: Torstein Torjusson, Nils Johannesson, Jens Aamundson, Torjus > > > Person alle av Stenageim og Jens Johannesson Kvam, Dalen, bygsla plassen > > > Lægdsvoll til Ola Johnson Fretland, med åker, slætte og skog som alltid > > > hev fylgt plassen. > > The official papers for the farmstead read: TT, NJ, JA,TP all from Stenageim > > and JJK, Dalen leased the farm to OJF, with acres, fields and woods that > > have always followed the farm > > > Han skal svara livekor til den gamle kona Randi > > > Jakobdotter. > > He was responsible for the old woman Randi's livelihood > > > Dei heldt takst på husi soleis Stova 12 dalar, fjos 5, > > They got the houses valued to this amount: > > > stabbur (food store house) 5, lødehusi (barn) 7, lofthus(loft) 3, turk > > (probably the loft where they kept the hay) 1 1-2 tilsam.(altogether) 33 1-2 > > dalar > > > Det kom på tale å trygda den nye husmannen livekor i alderdomen etter > > > framlag av Hermund Hundere, the den eine takstmannen, men Nils > > > Stenageim, > > There was a question of providing for the livelihood of the new farmsteader > > during his old age, this was suggested by HH, one of the men who rated the > > value of the farm, but NS..... > > Hope this makes some kind of sense > > Kelly Petit > > > > > Lars Person Vollen was from Kolsete and probably brother at Fremste > > > Vollen. His wife was Mari Eirikdotter Fjora who died 1805. They had no > > > children. Second wife was Kari Rasmusdotter Kvam 1805 who died 1813. > > > Third wife was Randi Jakobdotter Kvam, Dalen, married. 1814. Lars died > > > 1832, 59 years. Randi children had the place until 1840. Then come new > > > placemen. Festesetelen(?) 14-7-1840 fortel(?) at from owners from > > > abandoned farm Torjusson, N Johannesson, Jens Aamundson, T. Person all > > > of Stenageim and Jens and J. J. Johannesson Kvam, Dalen,leased the place > > > Lægdsvoll to Ola Johnson Fretland, with field, mowing hay, and forest > > > which always has abundant place. He must provide life support for old > > > wife Randi Jakobdotter. They held rated value on her soleis (?): Stova > > > 12 dollar, cowhouse 5, storehouse on pillars 5, lofthus (?) 3, turk > > > (?)1 1-2 Total sum 33 1-2 dollar. > > > Then came a speech of insurance that new crofters supply life pension > > > to old age persons from farm of Hermund Hundere, at that time the owner > > > appraiser, but Nils Stenageim

    09/15/2000 09:09:55
    1. Re: website for Norway aerial photos?
    2. arleen wood
    3. Just to let you know this website is working again for me tonight. Good luck! arleen wood wrote: > > This one is for Trondheim area only: > > http://www.ub.ntnu.no/baser/spessaml/fw/data/fw-gaarder-liste.htm > > "by way of Alf Christophersen " wrote: > > > > Hello. Please let me know the website for color photos > > of Norwegian farms. These were taken from the air, and > > there was a list of all the towns. I thank you very much. The name of the > > person who sent it started with the letter "A". My whole page of "OUTLOOK" > > was erased. > > TAKK. > > > > gladysjkj@dellmail.com > > > > -------------------------------------------------------- > > Get your free DellMail address at http://www.dellnet.com

    09/15/2000 08:21:23
    1. Re: GEN-NORDIC-D Digest V00 #278
    2. How does one know which bydebok one's ancesters are in? I know mine lived in Alvdal but wouldn't know which volume to ask about! I'd really like to know when my great grandfaather moved to Oslo, married and emigrated to USA. Would that info be in the community book? Thanks... Marcia in Tampa

    09/15/2000 04:52:36
    1. SV: Translation needed
    2. Ingrid Kjonnoy
    3. stova - (in this context) the farm house where the people lived soleis - thus, in this way Ingrid

    09/15/2000 02:51:36
    1. Re: Translation needed
    2. arleen wood
    3. Thank you, Kelly! What does the word "stova" mean. Also "soleis"? Kelly Petit wrote: > > arleen wood <ajwood@home.com> a écrit dans le message : > 39C11536.5821AA28@home.com... > > Hi, > > > > The following is my attempt to translate Norwegian using various > > dictionaries. Anyone willing to make corrections to my translation is > > appreciated! > > > > Lars Person Vollen var frå Kolsete og truleg bror til Ola Person på > LP was from Kolsete and probably the brother of OP living on Vollen 'in the > forefront' (the farm you come to first on Vollen) > > Fremste Vollen. > > Kona hans heitte Mari Eirikdotter Fjora, ho d. 1805. > His wife was MEF, she died in 1805 > > Dei hadde ikkje born. Andre kona heitte Kari Rasmusdotter Kvam g. 1805, > They didn't have any children. His second wife was called KRK, they married > 1805 > > ho d. 1813. > She died 1813 > > Tridje kona var Randi Jakobdotter Kvam, Dalen, g. 1814. > His third wife was RJK, they maried 1714 > > Lars d. 1832, 59 år. Randi og borni and borni hadde plassen til 1840. > L died in 1832, 59 years old. R and the children had the farmstead until > 1840. > > Då kom ny plassmann > Then a new farmsteader appeared. > > Festesetelen 14-7 1840 fortel at eigarane av and > > øydegarden: Torstein Torjusson, Nils Johannesson, Jens Aamundson, Torjus > > Person alle av Stenageim og Jens Johannesson Kvam, Dalen, bygsla plassen > > Lægdsvoll til Ola Johnson Fretland, med åker, slætte og skog som alltid > > hev fylgt plassen. > The official papers for the farmstead read: TT, NJ, JA,TP all from Stenageim > and JJK, Dalen leased the farm to OJF, with acres, fields and woods that > have always followed the farm > > Han skal svara livekor til den gamle kona Randi > > Jakobdotter. > He was responsible for the old woman Randi's livelihood > > Dei heldt takst på husi soleis Stova 12 dalar, fjos 5, > They got the houses valued to this amount: > > stabbur (food store house) 5, lødehusi (barn) 7, lofthus(loft) 3, turk > (probably the loft where they kept the hay) 1 1-2 tilsam.(altogether) 33 1-2 > dalar > > Det kom på tale å trygda den nye husmannen livekor i alderdomen etter > > framlag av Hermund Hundere, the den eine takstmannen, men Nils > > Stenageim, > There was a question of providing for the livelihood of the new farmsteader > during his old age, this was suggested by HH, one of the men who rated the > value of the farm, but NS..... > Hope this makes some kind of sense > Kelly Petit > > > Lars Person Vollen was from Kolsete and probably brother at Fremste > > Vollen. His wife was Mari Eirikdotter Fjora who died 1805. They had no > > children. Second wife was Kari Rasmusdotter Kvam 1805 who died 1813. > > Third wife was Randi Jakobdotter Kvam, Dalen, married. 1814. Lars died > > 1832, 59 years. Randi children had the place until 1840. Then come new > > placemen. Festesetelen(?) 14-7-1840 fortel(?) at from owners from > > abandoned farm Torjusson, N Johannesson, Jens Aamundson, T. Person all > > of Stenageim and Jens and J. J. Johannesson Kvam, Dalen,leased the place > > Lægdsvoll to Ola Johnson Fretland, with field, mowing hay, and forest > > which always has abundant place. He must provide life support for old > > wife Randi Jakobdotter. They held rated value on her soleis (?): Stova > > 12 dollar, cowhouse 5, storehouse on pillars 5, lofthus (?) 3, turk > > (?)1 1-2 Total sum 33 1-2 dollar. > > Then came a speech of insurance that new crofters supply life pension > > to old age persons from farm of Hermund Hundere, at that time the owner > > appraiser, but Nils Stenageim

    09/15/2000 01:26:04
    1. SV: website for Norway aerial photos?
    2. Harald Folvik
    3. You might be right for the cities, bu the land districts is better (Houses shown) on the Statkart version!!! mvh Harald F haraldfo@eunet.no http://home.eunet.no/~haraldfo/index.html ----- Opprinnelig melding ----- Fra: Otto Jørgensen <otjoerge@online.no> Til: <GEN-NORDIC-L@rootsweb.com> Sendt: 14. september 2000 22:17 Emne: Re: website for Norway aerial photos? > Thu, 14 Sep 2000 14:56:24 -0500, in soc.genealogy.nordic, "Todd Ronning" > <ronfam@lakenet.com> wrote: > > >I don't think this is the exact site you are looking for....but its a dandy > >for Norway topo's. > >http://ngis2.statkart.no/norgesglasset/stedsnavn/default.html > > > > or use this > http://www.hvor.no/hvor.asp > > I do think this is better one _:=)) > > -- > Otto Jørgensen - 2020 Skedsmokorset > http://home.online.no/~otjoerge/ > > ______________________________

    09/15/2000 08:34:34
    1. Announcements.
    2. Eugene W. Olson
    3. To whom it may concern; My name is Gene Olson and I am investigating www.familydiscovery.com for possible internet fraud. I am looking for any individual who has been involved with this company. I am looking for people who have paid money to this company or have had their sites linked to by this company. If any other possible crimes have been committed by this company I would be glad to hear about that as well. If you feel you have been cheated by this company in any way feel free to contact me. Please do not contact me telling me this company does not exist or that you do not know what I am talking about. The company does exist but has recently changed servers and it may take a while for the site to show up on some services. Also some services block access to sites especially ones that have the kind of history this site does. I am only interested in hearing from people who have legitimate concerns or would like additional information. I have not personally been ripped off by this site but have already been in touch with many individuals regarding this site. I have been in contact with the Secret Service and police from at least three different states. I am not affiliated with any local or federal law agency. I am simply an individual who does not like to see people getting ripped off. If you have issues with www.familydiscovery.com but do not wish to work with me directly I would be more than happy to supply you with names and numbers of individuals who already have some understanding of this case. The only reason I am not making those names and numbers available here is to prevent crank calls from flooding the offices of the state and federal law agencies working on this case. I was specifically asked by one individual on the case to not disclose their phone number unless I was contacted directly. While investigating www.familydiscovery.com a second company has come to my attention. This company may or may not be running illegal operations. I have been in direct contact with the company but they seem unwilling to share even the slightest information regarding their company. This company is doing business with Amazon.com but due to the way the company site looks and the reactions of the owner(s)? I have a hard time saying they are not at all involved in something shady. Like I say, I tried to contact them directly but they seemed to only be willing to speak with law enforcement agencies who are now involved. The company's name is Global Data CD Publishers. They operate the site www.gencd.com and are suppliers to Amazon.com. Anyone with any information regarding this company (good or bad) is encouraged to contact me. I have no proof that this company is doing anything wrong but at the same time the company has given me no information to lead me to believe they are innocent either. I have a hard time believing that a company looking for distributors of their products would be unwilling to talk with someone about those products. My contact information is: gene_olson@hotmail.com (877) 319-9699 Toll free! (515) 237-0014 If you live outside the US where the toll free number is not available. You are free to call any time of the day or night. The phone has no answering machine but someone is normally home. If no one answers it means that I am probably asleep (I sleep strange hours.) However, if you really need to contact me keep calling and I should eventually answer the phone. If you are thinking this sounds like something out of the Twilight Zone you are not alone. The internet is a new arena and I am constantly surprised by the tactics of scam artists. Hopefully this issue will be resolved quickly. I would like to go back to what I normally do as well. That's playing computer games and surfing the web if you care. Sincerely, Gene

    09/15/2000 06:49:34
    1. Re: Translation needed
    2. Kelly Petit
    3. arleen wood <ajwood@home.com> a écrit dans le message : 39C11536.5821AA28@home.com... > Hi, > > The following is my attempt to translate Norwegian using various > dictionaries. Anyone willing to make corrections to my translation is > appreciated! > > Lars Person Vollen var frå Kolsete og truleg bror til Ola Person på LP was from Kolsete and probably the brother of OP living on Vollen 'in the forefront' (the farm you come to first on Vollen) > Fremste Vollen. > Kona hans heitte Mari Eirikdotter Fjora, ho d. 1805. His wife was MEF, she died in 1805 > Dei hadde ikkje born. Andre kona heitte Kari Rasmusdotter Kvam g. 1805, They didn't have any children. His second wife was called KRK, they married 1805 > ho d. 1813. She died 1813 > Tridje kona var Randi Jakobdotter Kvam, Dalen, g. 1814. His third wife was RJK, they maried 1714 > Lars d. 1832, 59 år. Randi og borni and borni hadde plassen til 1840. L died in 1832, 59 years old. R and the children had the farmstead until 1840. > Då kom ny plassmann Then a new farmsteader appeared. > Festesetelen 14-7 1840 fortel at eigarane av and > øydegarden: Torstein Torjusson, Nils Johannesson, Jens Aamundson, Torjus > Person alle av Stenageim og Jens Johannesson Kvam, Dalen, bygsla plassen > Lægdsvoll til Ola Johnson Fretland, med åker, slætte og skog som alltid > hev fylgt plassen. The official papers for the farmstead read: TT, NJ, JA,TP all from Stenageim and JJK, Dalen leased the farm to OJF, with acres, fields and woods that have always followed the farm > Han skal svara livekor til den gamle kona Randi > Jakobdotter. He was responsible for the old woman Randi's livelihood > Dei heldt takst på husi soleis Stova 12 dalar, fjos 5, They got the houses valued to this amount: > stabbur (food store house) 5, lødehusi (barn) 7, lofthus(loft) 3, turk (probably the loft where they kept the hay) 1 1-2 tilsam.(altogether) 33 1-2 dalar > Det kom på tale å trygda den nye husmannen livekor i alderdomen etter > framlag av Hermund Hundere, the den eine takstmannen, men Nils > Stenageim, There was a question of providing for the livelihood of the new farmsteader during his old age, this was suggested by HH, one of the men who rated the value of the farm, but NS..... Hope this makes some kind of sense Kelly Petit > Lars Person Vollen was from Kolsete and probably brother at Fremste > Vollen. His wife was Mari Eirikdotter Fjora who died 1805. They had no > children. Second wife was Kari Rasmusdotter Kvam 1805 who died 1813. > Third wife was Randi Jakobdotter Kvam, Dalen, married. 1814. Lars died > 1832, 59 years. Randi children had the place until 1840. Then come new > placemen. Festesetelen(?) 14-7-1840 fortel(?) at from owners from > abandoned farm Torjusson, N Johannesson, Jens Aamundson, T. Person all > of Stenageim and Jens and J. J. Johannesson Kvam, Dalen,leased the place > Lægdsvoll to Ola Johnson Fretland, with field, mowing hay, and forest > which always has abundant place. He must provide life support for old > wife Randi Jakobdotter. They held rated value on her soleis (?): Stova > 12 dollar, cowhouse 5, storehouse on pillars 5, lofthus (?) 3, turk > (?)1 1-2 Total sum 33 1-2 dollar. > Then came a speech of insurance that new crofters supply life pension > to old age persons from farm of Hermund Hundere, at that time the owner > appraiser, but Nils Stenageim

    09/15/2000 01:55:12
    1. Etterkommere av Kirsten Edine Johansdatter.
    2. Arild Mathisen
    3. Etterlyser etterkommere av Kirsten Edine Johansdatter f.04.03.1900 i Nordrå i norge. Gift med Erik Johanson,bosatt i Stockholm.

    09/14/2000 02:44:50
    1. Etterkommere etter �ivind Heggelund Johansen ,Stockholm
    2. Arild Mathisen
    3. Etterlyser etterkommere av Øivind Heggelund Johansen.Født 01.07.1897 Nordrå i Norge.Bosatt i Stockholm i Sverige.

    09/14/2000 02:42:52
    1. Re: website for Norway aerial photos?
    2. Otto Jørgensen
    3. Thu, 14 Sep 2000 14:56:24 -0500, in soc.genealogy.nordic, "Todd Ronning" <ronfam@lakenet.com> wrote: >I don't think this is the exact site you are looking for....but its a dandy >for Norway topo's. >http://ngis2.statkart.no/norgesglasset/stedsnavn/default.html > or use this http://www.hvor.no/hvor.asp I do think this is better one _:=)) -- Otto Jørgensen - 2020 Skedsmokorset http://home.online.no/~otjoerge/

    09/14/2000 02:17:44
    1. Re: website for Norway aerial photos?
    2. Todd Ronning
    3. I don't think this is the exact site you are looking for....but its a dandy for Norway topo's. http://ngis2.statkart.no/norgesglasset/stedsnavn/default.html enjoy! Todd Ronning -- www.lakenet.com/~ronfam/ >Hello. Please let me know the website for color photos >of Norwegian farms.

    09/14/2000 01:56:24