Hej, Så här definierar Nationalencyklopedin en dräng: "Dräng, en numera bortlagd benämning på en jordbruksarbetare. En dräng utförde grövre sysslor på gården, var mestadels ogift, anställdes i regel på helårskontrakt och lydde under tjänstehjonsstadgan. Generellt var drängarna i Sverige under 1700- och 1800-talen färre till antalet än pigorna, utom i Bohuslän och Skåne, där fisket resp. det tunga jordbruket krävde mansarbeten i större omfattning. På större gårdar bodde drängarna ofta i en särskild drängkammare eller i en separat byggnad, en drängstuga." En statare eller en statardräng var en person anställd som dräng på en större gård och fick sin avlöning i natura (stat). De var egendomslösa, jord- och djurlösa, fattiga gifta lantarbetare. Statarna var kontraktsanställda på i regel ett år i taget och bodde på godsen i speciella statarbostäder, de s k statarlängorna. Du kan läsa mer om statarna på följande sida: http://www.algonet.se/~hogman/slstat.htm Hans Högman

Arendt Arendtsson Grape born 1645 has sexual relation with Anna Karlsdotter from Kainuunkylä without marrying her. Can anyone help with the names of the two (or more) children they get together. What happens to Anna - does she marry someone? What happens to the children - do they marry? And if: who do they marry and what children do they get? Thanx in advance Kjell -- rex@go.telia.no

Question. How did you go about finding the Parishes of your ancestors? I am just getting started with doing research but have some done from info from my grandparents. Also after you know the parishes how do you get the census records? Thanks Dan Lindgren

Er det ikke 'statardräng' ?, altså i Sverige en tjenestekarl hos en statare, det der svarer til en husmand i Danmark. Hvorfra stammer 'statare'?. Er det et udtryk for et statshusmandsbrug, som man har haft det i dk; eller er det et slags 'ryttartorp', som de svenske krigarkungar lod sin krigsfolk bo i.? Steen Skadhauge. Odense DK "Fredrik Derefeldt" <fredrik.derefeldt@ebox.tninet.se> wrote in message news:8u95gq$jr5$1@cubacola.tninet.se... > En statdräng eller statare var en årsanställd (24 oktober-24 oktober året > efter oftast) jordbruksarbetare med lön, delvis i naturaförmåner. > > Detta är en grupp arbetare som ofta flyttar, men det fanns sådana också som > arbetar nästan hela sitt liv hos samma arbetsgivare. > > Statare som yrke upphörde 1945. > > Mvh > Fredrik > > Chriben <chriben@private.dk> skrev i > diskussionsgruppsmeddelandet:XidN5.1215$1d.85112@news101.telia.com... > > Jeg har fået oplyst, at min Tip-tip Oldefar var "Statdrägen Bengt > > Bengtsson", men hvad betyder Statdrägen ? > > Jeg vil blive meget glad for et svar. > > > > Venlig hilsen og tak > > Jeannie Bengtsson > > > > > >

From Allen ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dr Fredrik Haeffner" <haeffner@email.com> To: <SWEDEN-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, November 26, 2000 6:51 AM Subject: [Sweden] Sandi's Värmland people Sandi, Do you know that the Sweden 1890 census for Värmland is on line ? http://www.foark.umu.se/folk/ Click English version and then Värmlands län The search instructions are in English but the records are of course in Swedish. There is also an English help page explaining the codes used in records. There are several persons that match the Nyströms you mention Please remember to use diacritical marks ! å ä ö letters Search for surname and one given name in different combinations. You may very well find the people who had not left for the US by 1890. Regards, Fredrik Haeffner E-mail: haeffner@email.com

Hi, is there anyone who can do a lookup on this person? What can be found in the film regarding him? Name: ROLF HELGESON Event Date: 1973 6 18 (Yr/Mo/Day) Age: 65 Gender: Male Event Place: VICTORIA Reg. Number: 1973-09-008639 B.C. Archives Microfilm Number: B13325 GSU Microfilm Number: 2050138 And thanks to all who answered me. TIA Trond crock@tr.telia.no

Dear All, I am new to the group. My paternal ancestry is English back to 1638, when Erasmus Townsend married Jane Oliver at Lenton, Nottinghamshire, England. Despite 30 years of vigilance, I have been unable to trace the origins or parentage of this Erasmus Townsend. I have wondered whether he could be from Norway, christened Rasmus Torreson. On his marriage licence allegation bond he made his mark with a "R". To my surprise, I have found a birth entry on the I.G.I., as follows: Rasmus Torreson, birth 1612, Randalberg, Rogaland, Norway. Father: Torres Olsen. This is around the right date. I understand that the parish records for Stavanger do not exist at such an early date. There is, however, a great farm history "bygdebok" for Randaberg. Does anyone have access to this book who would be willing to see if it mentions Rasmus Torreson. Or can you suggest any other records which might help me to establish whether this Rasmus Torreson came to England, or, at any rate, left Rogaland, or find any other information about him? I would be very grateful for your advice. I know quite a lot about English genealogy, but Norway is completely new to me! With best wishes, John Townsend, Wokingham, England e-mail: john.townsend2@virgin.net

Good morning listers. Hope every one had Happy Thanksgiving!! Now its time to get back to work if one calls genealogy work<BB> Maybe these questions have no answer to but am hoping!! Does any one on list have all three Inderoy Bygdboks? Most of my family stayed in the Inderoy area. But cannot find any thing on Peder Ulven/Ulvin. Maybe i made a mistake on his birth year. I put down 1851. But maybe its a few years off. Also Hansaire or Hans Arntssen. born ca 1788-1798. Any help please? Thanx. Viola.

----- Original Message ----- From: "David A Larson" <dlars@juno.com> To: <mnwilkin-D@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, November 23, 2000 1:52 PM Subject: Re: Gotland Radio > Gotland Radio is sending two reporters Dec.3 to do a report about > Gotland, Sweden immigrants to Minnesota, Michigan, and Omaha and their > descendants. Their tentative route is Michigan to Fergus Falls area, > then to Omaha They have some contacts already. Does anyone know of > where any Gotland people settled in Wilken county or other places in > Minnesota ? Gotland Radio is not commercial radio, but like our NPR. > Please contact David Larson in Salt Lake City, my Email address = > dlars@juno.com >

I'm researching ancestors and regularly go to Digitarkivet. My grandmother was from Voss, I have ALOT of information on her family tree. I've recently gotten more information from her only living son who lives far from me, and it's raised as many questions and it has answered. My grandmother was Martha Nillsdatter, daughter of Nils Larrsen, Gjermo Farm. Yesterday I reached someone also named Gjermo (the name my grandmother took when she emigrated) and learned upon further research, there were several Gjermo Farms in Voss!! At least that's how it seems to me. Perhaps they were simply seperate sections of the same farm. BUT! Were they all related? It seems unlikely, as your "farm name" changed when you moved to a different farm? Thanks for your help..... Marcia in Tampa

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Hi Trond Although we lived in Victoria from 1968-73, my mother can't remember him off-hand. We suggest you contact the Sons of Norway lodge there. There homepage is http://www.coastnet.com/home/eidsvold/ and I am sure someone there will remember your Rolf Helgeson. Marianne Trond Ballo wrote in message ... >Hi >Is there anyone who can help me with this? >Seeking the date of death of Rolf Helgeson, born August 15, 1907 in >Calumeth, Michingan, US >and died in 1974 in Victoria, B. C. Canada. >He was married to Joyce. >Rolf had 3 boys and 1 girl. > > >TIA, >Trond Ballo >crock@tr.telia.no > > >

http://www.slektsbiblioteket.com/english.htm Leave a query for your norwegian relatives in our archive and our users might be able to help you. We also have Norway's largest lookup service with more thatn 1600 resources available from 264 contributers. You will also find links to other websites explained in english. And if you have pictures of your norwegian relatives maybe you will contribute to our photoarchive. It's all about sharing information. >- Stig -<

He wrote: > > I have found this name in Sweden (Maria Turpiainen > was mentioned in some article about folklore). > I know that 40000 Finns moved to "Finnskogarna" > Sweden during 1600's. There's only one family in Finland > having this name and because it is my mother's maiden name, > I am very interested in any information about persons and > families carring this name. I can handle the research in Finland > but in Sweden, Norway, United Staes and Russia or Carelia, > if you have paersons with this name in your genealogical path > I would preciate information. > Thank you, > Hessu. Being more specific (thank you answer anyone who answered) Turpeinen and Turpiainen seems to me not being the same name, altough Turpiainens (Turpia, Turpiain) are many time misspeculated to be Turpeinens.

Trond, I found this on the British Columbia Archives site. I think he is likely your Rolf Helgeson. Good luck. Adele Edmonton, Alberta Canada Trond Ballo wrote: > Hi > Is there anyone who can help me with this? > Seeking the date of death of Rolf Helgeson, born August 15, 1907 in > Calumeth, Michingan, US > and died in 1974 in Victoria, B. C. Canada. > He was married to Joyce. > Rolf had 3 boys and 1 girl. > > TIA, > Trond Ballo > crock@tr.telia.no

SEE STORE M E <mle_ii@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:F102LTjcXhXCtMNH4kq00004936@hotmail.com... > Looking for relatives related to the founder of the Nordstroms store here in > the US. Anyone related? Supposedly I am, but haven't found the exact > connection yet, but might make a fit through someone else. > > Thanks, > Mike > > _________________________________________________________________________ > Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. > > Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at > http://profiles.msn.com. >

Hi Mike The first Nordstroms store opened in Seattle Wa As far as I know it opened in the 30's or 40's and it was the only one that I had ever heard of. Then I moved to California in 1960 and the Nordstroms started opening all over the states in the late 60's or early 70's I imagine your ancestor was in Seattle WA. I hope I have helped you Jean

Hi NG, I'm seeking information about: Jens H. Dorch, born Sep. 18., 1863, Odense Denmark, who is believed to have left for USA before 1882. I suspect him to get married in New York before 1900. I'm also seeking information about his grand-cousin: Henrik (Heinrich or Henry) J. Dorch, born June 23., 1850, Odense Denmark, who left for Sheffield, Bureau County, Illinois, USA after Aug. 7., 1882. Thanks in advance, Jørgen

Hi Is there anyone who can help me with this? Seeking the date of death of Rolf Helgeson, born August 15, 1907 in Calumeth, Michingan, US and died in 1974 in Victoria, B. C. Canada. He was married to Joyce. Rolf had 3 boys and 1 girl. TIA, Trond Ballo crock@tr.telia.no

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