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    1. Re: Preposition
    2. Bubbles
    3. Ragnhild Prøytz wrote in message <3a28f15e.9263607@news1.c2i.net>... >I hope to get some help. >I want to make a family-book for my relatives i USA, so I wonder what >is right to say; He was born "in", "on"or "at" a farm? Born _on_ a farm. Marianne

    12/02/2000 10:51:46
    1. Re: Preposition
    2. Harald Storaker
    3. > > I want to make a family-book for my relatives i USA, so I wonder what > > is right to say; He was born "in", "on"or "at" a farm? > > > I think "at" is best, and "on" possible, but definitely not "in" > a farm. > // Bo Johansson I agree with that. The general rule in Norwegian is at ("på") a farm, and in ("i") a parish. Some parishes have got the same name as a (main) farm. Then the use of preposition is important. If you say: he was born at Eiken, you mean at Eiken farm. If you say: in Eiken, you mean in Eiken parish.

    12/02/2000 10:10:36
    1. Re: Preposition
    2. In article <3a28f15e.9263607@news1.c2i.net>, ragnhild.proytz@c2i.net (Ragnhild Prøytz) wrote: > I hope to get some help. > I want to make a family-book for my relatives i USA, so I wonder what > is right to say; He was born "in", "on"or "at" a farm? > I think "at" is best, and "on" possible, but definitely not "in" a farm. // Bo Johansson Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/ Before you buy.

    12/02/2000 09:27:23
    1. Re: Looking for Helge Aslagen (Asselsson )in Col, Buserod, Norway, born ca.1822?
    2. Inger Falch-Jacobsen
    3. Hi Gladys, You are looking for Gol, Buskerud, Norway. In the census for 1865, you have to look at Nes/Næs/Næss parish in Buskerud. Gol and Nes are in the valley Hallingdal. If you go to the census of 1900 at Digitalarkivet, select Buskerud - Gol - Gardsnamn - show all, and choose for instance Blakkestad nordre, you will find a button "Søk etter kart" = "Search for map". I can't find Helge anywhere, but it seems your Barbro, if she was born around 1839, was an unmarried servant living with some of my relatives at Killingrud in Øvre Eiker in 1865. Inger > Hello. I am trying to locate Col, Buserod, Norway (sp.?) in a map, and > ancestors of both people: > > Helge Aslagen (Asselsson) who lived there, and who > married Barbro Halversen (Steimgrimsdatter). >

    12/02/2000 07:07:11
    1. Looking for Helge Aslagen (Asselsson )in Col, Buserod, Norway, born ca.1822?
    2. Gladys Johnson
    3. Hello. I am trying to locate Col, Buserod, Norway (sp.?) in a map, and ancestors of both people: Helge Aslagen (Asselsson) who lived there, and who married Barbro Halversen (Steimgrimsdatter). Any information greatly appreciated. Gladys Johnson

    12/02/2000 06:16:01
    1. Preposition
    2. Ragnhild Pr�ytz
    3. I hope to get some help. I want to make a family-book for my relatives i USA, so I wonder what is right to say; He was born "in", "on"or "at" a farm? Ragnhild Prøytz

    12/02/2000 06:05:53
    1. Re: Sneaasen, Hollum, Norway
    2. Kjell Eidet
    3. Knut Bryn wrote: > > Todd Ronning wrote: > > > > I have discovered an obituary listing Sneaasen, Hollum, Norway as the place > > of birth. The individual is Erick Olaf Sunde, b. 10 Dec, 1883. He and his > > family left Norway for America in 1885. > > > > Where is this town/kommune located? > > My guess is that this address refers to the HOLEM farm in SNAASA parish. > "Holem" has also been written "Holum" and "Hollum". Other possible > locations may be found too. > > You will find "Snaasa" or "Snåsa" a little East of the town of Steinkjer > in Nord-Trøndelag county. ---------------- There is a ridge called Snesåsen east of city Halden. Halden is situated at the east side of Oslofjorden, in the south. Kjell -- ------------ Kjell Eidet, Lesterudveien 31 Phone: +47 67 56 11 01 N-1350 Lommedalen E-mail: kjelleid@alfanett.no NORWAY

    12/02/2000 12:37:32
    1. Genealogy Holiday Gift: Herod's Burning of the Jewish Genealogies and Biblical influence in Medieval to Modern genealogies.
    2. Offered in the spirit of the upcoming Christmas and Hanukkah Season: Herod's Burning of the Jewish Genealogies in GYDINGA SAGA and in the Second Old Norwegian Epiphany Homily, by Thomas N. Hall, [University of Illinois at Chicago], from Mediaeval Studies, Volume 61; copyright 1999, by the Pontifical Institute of Mediaeval Studies, pages 173 -204. The saga "has been described as a 'typical example of the learned interest in biblical and extra- biblical matters in thirteenth-century Iceland and Norway . . .'". From page 178: "But the aforementioned men had especially committed that to record, that during that time all the genealogies of the Hebrews had been preserved in writing in the more secret archives of the temple, which also contained records of the origins of all foreigners, such as Achior from the Ammonites and Ruth from the Moabites, as well as others who had come from Egypt who were said to have mixed with the Israelites. . . ." The following quote provides historical understanding, as to why the genealogies "kept" in St. Matthew and St. Luke, would be found as written contemporaneously with the Time of the Messiah Jesus Christ. Catholic Church History Book I Chapter VII . . . "11 . . . Antipater, son of a certain temple slave named Herod. And since the priest was not able to pay the ransom for his son, Antipater was brought up in the customs of the Idumeans, and afterward was befriended by Hyrcanus, the high priest of the Jews. 12 And having, been sent by Hyrcanus on an embassy to Pompey, and having restored to him the kingdom which had been invaded by his brother Aristobulus, he had the good fortune to be named procurator of Palestine. But Antipater having been slain by those who were envious of his great good fortune was succeeded by his son Herod, who was afterward, by a decree of the senate, made King of the Jews under Antony and Augustus. His sons were Herod and the other tetrarchs. These accounts agree also with those of the Greeks. 13 But as there had been kept in the archives up to that time the genealogies of the Hebrews as well as of those who traced their lineage back to proselytes, such as Achior the Ammonite and Ruth the Moabitess, and to those who were mingled with the Israelites and came out of Egypt with them, Herod, inasmuch as the lineage of the Israelites contributed nothing to his advantage, and since he was goaded with the consciousness of his own ignoble extraction, burned all the genealogical records, thinking that he might appear of noble origin if no one else were able, from the public registers, to trace back his lineage to the patriarchs or proselytes and to those mingled with them, who were called Georae. 14 A few of the careful, however, having obtained private records of their own, either by remembering the names or by getting them in some other way from the registers, pride themselves on preserving the memory of their noble extraction. . . ." http://www.newadvent.org/fathers/250101.htm In the writing of history at King Alfred's court, by Anton Scharer, "The 'West-Saxon Genealogical Regnal List'", as well as "The Anglo-Saxon Chronicle", are reviewed, with extensive documented notes, in Vol. 5, Number 2, 1996, of the periodical: Early Medieval Europe; beginning page 177-. Mention is made on page 192, that: "Among the usual cast of Old Testament kings held out as models to contemporary rulers, Solomon features most prominently in the reign of Charles the Bald, occupying the place in relation to the ruler that David had held in the days of Charlemagne. {94}" >From page 197, "Additional crucial evidence is provided by the Proverbia Grecorum, a set of maxims 'concerning such topics as wisdom, truth, and virtue' . . . These maxims were of Irish origin and in all likelihood date back to the seventh century. {124}" REFERENCES: ENCYCLOPÆDIA BRITANNICA Eusebius Of Caesarea http://www.britannica.com/bcom/eb/article/7/0,5716,33867+1+33282,00.html Eusebius Pamphili, Bishop of Cæsarea in Palestine [State of Israel], the "Father of [Catholic] Church History"; b. about 260; d. before 341; wrote "The 'Chronography'; an epitome of universal history. It is divided into five parts: (1) the history of the Chaldeans, and the Assyrians, followed by lists of the Assyrian, Median, Lydian, and Persian kings; (2) Old Testament history; (3) Egyptian history; (4) Grecian history; (5) Roman history." " It is . . . full of quotations from lost authors." http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/05616a.htm Respectfully yours, Tom Tinney, Sr. http://www.dcn.davis.ca.us/~vctinney/ Genealogy and History Internet Web Directory Who's Who in America, Millennium Edition [54th] Who's Who In The West, 1998/1999 Who's Who In Genealogy and Heraldry, [both editions] Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/ Before you buy.

    12/01/2000 07:47:48
    1. RE: Rasmus J. Loen, Loen Nordfjord, Norway
    2. Dan & Deb Porter
    3. Hi Kjell, It looks like you may have gotten your info out of the bygdebok Njordfjord by Aaland? If not, let me know, as there is a picture of Rasmus in it. Deb -----Original Message----- From: LOEN HOTELL KJELL LOEN [mailto:kloen@c2i.net] Sent: Friday, December 01, 2000 12:48 AM To: GEN-NORDIC-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Rasmus J. Loen, Loen Nordfjord, Norway Im looking for the family after Rasmus J. Loen born 11-6-1843 ,dead 1939, Loen Nordfjord. He was married 3 times. 1 wife Ragnhild Jonsdtr. Tenden dead 32 år old 1868 children Ingeborg Johanne 2. wife Kristi Lassedtr. Oppheim dead 37 år old 1876 children Rakel Johannes Ragnhild 3 wife Kari Andersdtr. Taralsæter, Innvik dead 80 år old 1922 children Kristian Anders Kristian Kristi Anders I wish to find the family after the children after marrage in marriage 2 and 3. Kjell Loen ______________________________

    12/01/2000 06:29:49
    1. Ringsaker Historielag email, magazine index
    2. John Reindl
    3. Does anyone know if the Ringsaker Historielag in Moelv (Hedmark fylke) has an email address? Also, does anyone know if there is an index for their årbok for the period of 1989 to 1998? (The years 1979 to 1988 are covered in an index.) Thanks much, John Reindl chorus.net

    12/01/2000 05:24:24
    1. Re: Ringsaker Historielag email, magazine index
    2. Leif B. Kristensen
    3. On Fri, 01 Dec 2000 18:24:24 -0600, John Reindl <reindl@chorus.net> wrote: >Does anyone know if the Ringsaker Historielag in Moelv (Hedmark >fylke) has an email address? > >Also, does anyone know if there is an index for their årbok for >the period of 1989 to 1998? (The years 1979 to 1988 are covered >in an index.) Take a look at http://home5.c2i.net/birislekt regards, -- Leif Biberg Kristensen http://hjem.sol.no/leifkris/index.htm

    12/01/2000 05:03:46
    1. Lusitania
    2. pamela m
    3. Does anyone know where to find the passenger lists of the Lusitania Ship? My GGrandparents, and Grandfather came to the US on it, before the ship sank. Thank You for your help! KJsLady@hotmail.com

    12/01/2000 04:52:02
    1. Sweden Birth Certificate
    2. pamela m
    3. Hi! I was trying to find out how to get a birth certificate from 1906. I live in the USA and need to know what/who I need to go through to get this. Can anyone help? Please and Thank You! email me at: KJsLady@hotmail.com please add to the subject line: SWEDISH BIRTH RECORD/CERTIFICATE

    12/01/2000 04:50:20
    1. Blomberg in �bo, Finland
    2. VaWolfie
    3. Looking for information on Carl Frederik Blomberg, b. May 1718 in Åbo, Finland. He died May 22, 1796 in Gävleborgs Län, in the Forsa parish. He was the son of Jonas Blomberg. Carl was married to Karin Jonsdotter 07 September 1746. They had the following children: Anders, Anna, Jonas, Erik (died in infancy), Erik, and Per. All the children had the surname Blom, except for Jonas who changed his name to Jonas Pamp. Does anyone have an idea where to start looking for records from Åbo? Tack så mycket! Verner VaWolfie@msn.com

    12/01/2000 02:23:08
    1. Re: Sneaasen, Hollum, Norway
    2. Knut Bryn
    3. Todd Ronning wrote: > > I have discovered an obituary listing Sneaasen, Hollum, Norway as the place > of birth. The individual is Erick Olaf Sunde, b. 10 Dec, 1883. He and his > family left Norway for America in 1885. > > Where is this town/kommune located? My guess is that this address refers to the HOLEM farm in SNAASA parish. "Holem" has also been written "Holum" and "Hollum". Other possible locations may be found too. You will find "Snaasa" or "Snåsa" a little East of the town of Steinkjer in Nord-Trøndelag county. Best wishes from Knut Bryn, Molde

    12/01/2000 12:36:52
    1. Sneaasen, Hollum, Norway
    2. Todd Ronning
    3. I have discovered an obituary listing Sneaasen, Hollum, Norway as the place of birth. The individual is Erick Olaf Sunde, b. 10 Dec, 1883. He and his family left Norway for America in 1885. Where is this town/kommune located? Thank you and Happy Holidays! Todd Ronning Two Harbors, MN

    12/01/2000 05:59:31
    1. SV: (no subject)Looking for relatives from Norway(Larson)
    2. Stig Samuelsen
    3. In Cenus 1900 you'll find one Pauline H. Frøiland living at Frøiland in Time community Navn Familiestilling Sivilstand Yrke Fødselsår Fødested Etnisitet Hans J. Frøiland hf g Gaardbruger, Selveier 1847 Time Sta (FATHER) Malena B. Frøiland hm g Gaardmandskone 1844 Time Sta (MOTHER) Jonas H. Frøiland s ug Søn Jordbrugsarbeide %Sysler med Gaardsstel% 1880 Time Sta Betuel H. Frøiland s ug Søn Jordbrugsarbeide 1882 Time Sta Pauline H. Frøiland d ug Datter Jordbrugsarbeide 1884 Time Sta Malena H. Frøiland d ug Datter 1888 Time Sta But there is no Rakel living there... At the same farm in Time community there's a RAKEL KVERNELAND living at the farm. Since the farms name is Frøiland she might have taken the name FROYLAND later, but she's not Pauline's sister, but maybe another relative or a friend ?? Navn Familiestilling Sivilstand Yrke Fødselsår Fødested Etnisitet Reinert R. Kverneland hf g Gaardbruger Selveier og Landhandler 1859 Høiland Sta Marta J. Kverneland hm g Gaardmandskone 1856 Time Sta Johan R. Kverneland s ug Søn Ved Handelen og Gaardsbruger 1886 Gjæsdal Rakel R. Kverneland d ug Datter 1889 Time Sta Olava R. Kverneland d ug Datter 1891 Time Sta Reinert R. Kverneland s ug Søn 1893 Time Sta Martin R. Kverneland s ug Søn 1895 Time Sta Not much help... Best regards Stig Samuelsen http://www.slektsbiblioteket.com/english.htm The spot to start your norwegian genealogy !!! Joe Davis <jrsldavis@centurytel.net> skrev i meldingsnyheter:3A273B22.F7AB468D@centurytel.net... > I am looking for relatives from Norway, now living in the United > States. My grandmother, Pauline Froyland came to the U.S. in the early > l900's with her sister, Rakel.. My grandmother married Ole Hetland and > the sister married a Larson and I believe had a son Clarence. At one > point many years ago I think they lived in the Southwest, perhaps New > Mexico. Any help would be appreciated. >

    12/01/2000 03:21:51
    1. Rasmus J. Loen, Loen Nordfjord, Norway
    2. LOEN HOTELL KJELL LOEN
    3. Im looking for the family after Rasmus J. Loen born 11-6-1843 ,dead 1939, Loen Nordfjord. He was married 3 times. 1 wife Ragnhild Jonsdtr. Tenden dead 32 år old 1868 children Ingeborg Johanne 2. wife Kristi Lassedtr. Oppheim dead 37 år old 1876 children Rakel Johannes Ragnhild 3 wife Kari Andersdtr. Taralsæter, Innvik dead 80 år old 1922 children Kristian Anders Kristian Kristi Anders I wish to find the family after the children after marrage in marriage 2 and 3. Kjell Loen

    12/01/2000 01:47:57
    1. (no subject)Looking for relatives from Norway(Larson)
    2. Joe Davis
    3. I am looking for relatives from Norway, now living in the United States. My grandmother, Pauline Froyland came to the U.S. in the early l900's with her sister, Rakel.. My grandmother married Ole Hetland and the sister married a Larson and I believe had a son Clarence. At one point many years ago I think they lived in the Southwest, perhaps New Mexico. Any help would be appreciated.

    11/30/2000 10:46:11
    1. Re: LDS Western European Vital Records
    2. Pascal Pinan-Lucarre
    3. On Thu, 30 Nov 2000 17:13:45 +1000, "Kerry Raymond" <kerry@dstc.edu.au> wrote: >Does anyone know what countries are covered (and to what extent) in the new >LDS Western European Vital Records? >The LDS WWW site lists this CD-set is its on-line shop but the description >is unhelpfully "description to come". >Kerry Dear Kerry, This information is available on : http://genealogie.to/vitalrecords.htm Best regards. Pascal.

    11/30/2000 04:54:45