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    1. [GEN-NORDIC] looking for related descendants - Andersen / Christensen (Danish immigrants to Iowa)
    2. Jayson Elliot
    3. I am looking for anyone who might be related to me through my great-grandparents. Their names were Martin Andersen and Anna Andersen (nee Anna Christensen). They came to the United States from Denmark - I have Martin Andersen's certificate of naturalization dated September 26th, 1921; and Anna Christensen Andersen's certificate of citizenship dated May 22nd, 1939. Please email me, especially if you are still living in Denmark. Thank you.

    03/09/2003 03:31:19
    1. [GEN-NORDIC] Re: "incest" marriages
    2. Brynjulf Langballe
    3. Have you tried Daniel de Rauglaudre's database at http://geneweb.inria.fr/roglo?lang=en . The software in use, GeneWeb, is specialized in relationship and consanguinity computing. You can find more about this here: http://cristal.inria.fr/~ddr/GeneWeb/en/index.html#Par If you search for Carlos II von Habsburg in his database, you will see that he is more inbreeded than if his parents where siblings. He has a consanguinity of 25.35%. If his parents where siblings, and that was the only known inbreed, the consanguinity whould have been 25.00%. The Habsburg dynasty was known for beeing heavyly inbreeded with a lot of marriages between 1. cousins. Brynjulf Langballe "Romualdo Saenz Matienzo" <[email protected]> skrev i melding news:[email protected] > Many scholars have for sure that the old nordic societies, and irish > and picts, had a lack of incest regulations. I know about some > marriages between grandparents and grandaughters, a queen with his > son, siblings, etc (sagas, eddas). But my interest is to look after > some structure of incest repeated in time, that it's: if it exists one > structure of avoiding incest, it may be another structure of incest. > Someone there con help me to know genealogies of sagas and eddas? Thak > you.

    03/09/2003 12:48:53
    1. [GEN-NORDIC] Isa
    2. Beverly Horner
    3. I am looking for a Swedish lady who did a lookup for me. I recently changed my ISP (with about a week's difficulty where I was offline) and consequently, I lost her email address. I do not remember her last name or anything else except her first name. We had talked about finding the grave of my greatgrandfather "Carl Oscar Ludwig Lundgren (Nilsson)" who is buried in a cemetery in Oscarhamm Sweden. My address is no longer with Att.Net. It is [email protected] Beverly Horner

    03/09/2003 07:19:56
    1. [GEN-NORDIC] Randine Olsdatter Dalseie
    2. Liv Marit Haakenstad
    3. Hello! I am searching Rndine Olsdatter Dalseie (Dalsveen), b. 10.14.1820 at Rudshaugen, Biri, Norway. She emigrated as a widow 05.15.1885 to Chicago with her son Martinius Olsen Dalseie, b. ca. 1866. Do anybody know something about her or her son? Her husband was Ole Halvorsen Dalsveen (1821-1876). Hilsen Liv Marit Haakenstad www.genit.no

    03/08/2003 10:03:03
    1. [GEN-NORDIC] From South Trondelag, Norway, to Minnesota in 1886
    2. LIV NORDSET
    3. Hi, I'm looking for my grandmother's father Even Gunnerius Johansen Eggen b, Sept. 22nd 1863 in Strinda or Bjornor (Bjørnør). He left Trondheim in April 1886 with destination Ada, Minnesota, and someone in the US paid his fare. His parents were Johan Jonsen Eggen and Jonetta Jonsdatter Aasheim. Even worked as a farmhand and butcher in Norway. His father was a carpenter. Any help or hints would be greatly appreciated! Sincerely, Liv Nordset

    03/08/2003 02:11:47
    1. [GEN-NORDIC] Re: is there a list?
    2. Oops - should have been [email protected] to subscribe. And that's an "ell" in the middle, not a "one". [email protected] wrote: > > Try [email protected] > > [email protected] rootsweb to subscribe: put just the word > subscribe in the text. > > Ruth Ann > > Doug Holtz wrote: > > > > "Robert Heiling" <[email protected]> wrote in message > > news:[email protected] > > > Doug Holtz wrote: > > > > > > > Group; > > > > Is there an email list for Swedish genealogy similar to the pommern-l

    03/07/2003 01:13:11
    1. [GEN-NORDIC] Re: is there a list?
    2. Try [email protected] [email protected] rootsweb to subscribe: put just the word subscribe in the text. Ruth Ann Doug Holtz wrote: > > "Robert Heiling" <[email protected]> wrote in message > news:[email protected] > > Doug Holtz wrote: > > > > > Group; > > > Is there an email list for Swedish genealogy similar to the pommern-l

    03/07/2003 01:10:58
    1. [GEN-NORDIC] Bolette Cathrine HARBOE and GØRTZEN
    2. Christina
    3. I'm looking for Information on Bolette Cathrine HARBOE. Her first husband was probably Simon (unknown). Spouse: Bolette Cathrine HARBOE Birth: ABT 1745 Children: Anne Margrethe (~1769->1850) 1.1 Anne Margrethe SIMONSEN ——————————————————————————————————————— Birth: ABT 1769, Herlufmagle, Tybjerg Herred, Praesto amt, DK Death: AFT 1850 Spouse: Jacob Jacobsen GØRTZEN Death: BEF 1834 Father: Jacob GØRTZEN Mother: Mette Kirstine PEDERSDATTER Marr: ABT 1787 Children: Mette Kirstine (1789-1868) Niels Jacob (1792-) Bolette Cathrine (1795-) Hendrich Folmer (1797-1869) Anna Dorthea (~1798-) Margrethe Hedevig (~1802-) Marie Cecilie (~1806-) **** Bolette Cathrine's second husband was: 2 Andreas Peter Jacobsen GØRTZEN ——————————————————————————————————————— Father: Jacob GØRTZEN Mother: Mette Kirstine PEDERSDATTER Children: Niels Simonsen (ch. 1778-) Methe Kristen (~1780-) Sine Cathrine (~1782-) Jacob Pouhlman (~1784-) Hendrich (ch. 1785-)

    03/07/2003 11:11:17
    1. [GEN-NORDIC] "incest" marriages
    2. Romualdo Saenz Matienzo
    3. Many scholars have for sure that the old nordic societies, and irish and picts, had a lack of incest regulations. I know about some marriages between grandparents and grandaughters, a queen with his son, siblings, etc (sagas, eddas). But my interest is to look after some structure of incest repeated in time, that it's: if it exists one structure of avoiding incest, it may be another structure of incest. Someone there con help me to know genealogies of sagas and eddas? Thak you.

    03/07/2003 04:06:42
    1. Re: [GEN-NORDIC] Andy Jorgensen
    2. Margit
    3. I rechecked, and do not think this is your Hans in the 1930 census. I find a Anders Langaas coming to New York in 1922 from Vaale Norway. This would be the man in the census record. Margit > Hei Mette! > In the 1930 census I find an Anders Langaas age 26 living here: > 1930 U.S. Federal Census > New York > Kings > Brooklyn (Districts 1001-1250) >> District 1174 > He is married to a lady named Dagny who was born in Norway and is 24 years > old. Looks like they are living on Fort Hamilton Parkway. > I will send you a copy of it as a jpg. It will be a large file, so you can > see everything. :-)) > Margit in Minnesta >> >> Im searching for Hans Langaas. He arrived Usa in 1923, and he changed his >> name to Andy Jorgensen. He was born 1907 in Vestfold, Norway. He`s social >> security number were: 080-12-8502. He died may 1925. >> I hope that some of you may help me with some more information. >> >> Mette Gjertsen >> Tønsberg >> Norway

    03/07/2003 02:05:09
    1. Re: [GEN-NORDIC] Andy Jorgensen
    2. Margit
    3. Hei Mette! In the 1930 census I find an Anders Langaas age 26 living here: 1930 U.S. Federal Census > New York > Kings > Brooklyn (Districts 1001-1250) > District 1174 He is married to a lady named Dagny who was born in Norway and is 24 years old. Looks like they are living on Fort Hamilton Parkway. I will send you a copy of it as a jpg. It will be a large file, so you can see everything. :-)) Margit in Minnesta > > Im searching for Hans Langaas. He arrived Usa in 1923, and he changed his > name to Andy Jorgensen. He was born 1907 in Vestfold, Norway. He`s social > security number were: 080-12-8502. He died may 1925. > I hope that some of you may help me with some more information. > > Mette Gjertsen > Tønsberg > Norway > >

    03/07/2003 01:22:35
    1. [GEN-NORDIC] Re: Andy Jorgensen
    2. Phil Baun
    3. Mette Gjertsen wrote: > Im searching for Hans Langaas. He arrived Usa in 1923, and he changed his > name to Andy Jorgensen. He was born 1907 in Vestfold, Norway. He`s social > security number were: 080-12-8502. He died may 1925. > I hope that some of you may help me with some more information. > > Mette Gjertsen > Tønsberg > Norway > > I assume you refer to Social Security in USA. My belief is that it was not established until about 1936. You may want to verify the date of his death. From the leading three digits or so, the state in which he applied for social security can be identified. Here I'm guessing again, but 080 is probably New York. I looked for Andy Jorgensen in the SS Death Records and it came back with 38 Andrew Jorgensen's. Andy is a nickname for Andrew here. None of these records had the same three leading or four trailing numbers as the SS number you stated. Only one was born in 1907 and he lived in Wisconsin both when he acquired his number and when he died. There were no SS death records for Hans Langaas. Sorry, I couldn't help more. Phil Baun in Massachusetts

    03/06/2003 05:11:47
    1. [GEN-NORDIC] Andy Jorgensen
    2. Mette Gjertsen
    3. Im searching for Hans Langaas. He arrived Usa in 1923, and he changed his name to Andy Jorgensen. He was born 1907 in Vestfold, Norway. He`s social security number were: 080-12-8502. He died may 1925. I hope that some of you may help me with some more information. Mette Gjertsen Tønsberg Norway

    03/06/2003 05:04:32
    1. [GEN-NORDIC] Hans Pedersen Nygard, Michigan
    2. sofus
    3. Searching for Hans Jørginius Pedersen Nygard, born in Roan Norway, 1868 at the farm Stagan. Parents Peder Rasmussen Beskeland and Lava Kristine Roan Moen Hansdatter. He emigrated from Norway in 1887 and last time in 1900 under name Hans Pedersen Nygard. He has descendants in Michigan, USA. I am searching for descendants, and all information abouth him. Peron

    03/06/2003 12:30:21
    1. [GEN-NORDIC] Re: Sunstream/strem/
    2. Steven
    3. I agree with Kurt. Only - sund (sound) is also the name for a narrow strait of water, like Øresund (Öresund), Virksund, Svendborgsund, Feggesund just to mention a few here in Denmark. regards Steven "Kurt Fredriksson" <[email protected]> skrev i en meddelelse news:[email protected] > > > > Hi Glenn > > > > One very likely possibility is Sunstrom where "strom" means "stream"" and > is > > simply a translation (i.e. Anglicization) into English. If you break it > into > > syllables it is Sun-strom where sun is a channel or strait or similar and > strom > > is stream. You may find it spelled with a special character such as strøm, > for > > example. The Scandanavian languages are very similar in these regards. > > The word "sund" has the meaning Bob is mentioning, not "sun". "sund" also > has the meaning "sound" as in healthy besides Bobs interpretation. > Other possible variations could be: Sundström (if Swede) or Sundstrøm (if > Dane). > When you pronounce these names in Scandinavia, you hardly hears the "d". > > Kurt F > > > Go to: > > http://www.familysearch.org/ > > or > > http://www.ancestry.com/?rc=locale%7E&us=0 > > and do a lookup on the surname and also consider the variation Sundstrom. > > You'll see that it was a fairly common name and, who knows, you might find > a > > connection there. > >

    03/06/2003 09:02:58
    1. [GEN-NORDIC] Re: Sunstream/strem/
    2. Robert Heiling
    3. Steven wrote: > I agree with Kurt. Only - sund (sound) is also the name for a narrow strait > of water, like Øresund (Öresund), Virksund, Svendborgsund, Feggesund just to > mention a few here in Denmark. > > regards > > Steven I agree with you both that "Sund" would be the _technically_ accurate word, but technical accuracy was commonly ignored in the formation of surnames. If you do a lookup on the LDS website that I posted, you will find quite a few "Sunstrom" in Norway & Denmark. I suspect that a telephone search would give similar results. The "Sun" in Sun-strom would have to be a shortening and have the same meaning as "Sund" as I can find no other possible explanation. I believe that his Anglicized "Sunstream" was Sunstrom originally or possibly Sundstrom. Regards Bob > "Kurt Fredriksson" <[email protected]> skrev i en meddelelse > news:[email protected] > > > > > > Hi Glenn > > > > > > One very likely possibility is Sunstrom where "strom" means "stream"" > and > > is > > > simply a translation (i.e. Anglicization) into English. If you break it > > into > > > syllables it is Sun-strom where sun is a channel or strait or similar > and > > strom > > > is stream. You may find it spelled with a special character such as > strøm, > > for > > > example. The Scandanavian languages are very similar in these regards. > > > > The word "sund" has the meaning Bob is mentioning, not "sun". "sund" also > > has the meaning "sound" as in healthy besides Bobs interpretation. > > Other possible variations could be: Sundström (if Swede) or Sundstrøm (if > > Dane). > > When you pronounce these names in Scandinavia, you hardly hears the "d". > > > > Kurt F > > > > > Go to: > > > http://www.familysearch.org/ > > > or > > > http://www.ancestry.com/?rc=locale%7E&us=0 > > > and do a lookup on the surname and also consider the variation > Sundstrom. > > > You'll see that it was a fairly common name and, who knows, you might > find > > a > > > connection there. > > > >

    03/06/2003 08:59:22
    1. [GEN-NORDIC] Re: Sunstream/strem/
    2. Robert Heiling
    3. Glenn Brown wrote: > Hi everyone > > I'm seeking help about the likely spelling of my gg grandfather's name. > > His marriage certificate and death certificate show his name as Augustus > William Sunstream but after arriving in Australia in 1860s he was commonly > known as Charles Brown. He worked as a mariner and harbour master in > Tasmania.until his death in 1929 > > Oral history refers to him as "the Dane' although another branch of the > family believed him to be Norwegian. It is known that he spoke english with > an accent and conversed a language other than english with visiting sea > captains. > > The difficulty I have is determining where he was actually from. The name > Sunstream I'm guessing is an anglicisation - but of what? I've seen > listings of the name Sunstrem in Denmark which might be a candidate but am > unsure of the pronunciation. Does anyone have any thought about likely > surnames, especially those that sound phonetically like Sunstream? > > I'd appreciate any advice > > Glenn Brown > Perth Western Australia Hi Glenn One very likely possibility is Sunstrom where "strom" means "stream"" and is simply a translation (i.e. Anglicization) into English. If you break it into syllables it is Sun-strom where sun is a channel or strait or similar and strom is stream. You may find it spelled with a special character such as strøm, for example. The Scandanavian languages are very similar in these regards. Go to: http://www.familysearch.org/ or http://www.ancestry.com/?rc=locale%7E&us=0 and do a lookup on the surname and also consider the variation Sundstrom. You'll see that it was a fairly common name and, who knows, you might find a connection there. HTH Bob

    03/05/2003 08:55:45
    1. [GEN-NORDIC] Sunstream/strem/
    2. Glenn Brown
    3. Hi everyone I'm seeking help about the likely spelling of my gg grandfather's name. His marriage certificate and death certificate show his name as Augustus William Sunstream but after arriving in Australia in 1860s he was commonly known as Charles Brown. He worked as a mariner and harbour master in Tasmania.until his death in 1929 Oral history refers to him as "the Dane' although another branch of the family believed him to be Norwegian. It is known that he spoke english with an accent and conversed a language other than english with visiting sea captains. The difficulty I have is determining where he was actually from. The name Sunstream I'm guessing is an anglicisation - but of what? I've seen listings of the name Sunstrem in Denmark which might be a candidate but am unsure of the pronunciation. Does anyone have any thought about likely surnames, especially those that sound phonetically like Sunstream? I'd appreciate any advice Glenn Brown Perth Western Australia

    03/05/2003 07:53:13
    1. [GEN-NORDIC] Re: Church dedicated to the survival of Europeans
    2. bookburn
    3. "Alf Christophersen" <[email protected]> wrote in message news:[email protected] > On Sun, 2 Mar 2003 00:49:22 +0100, "Geir Kristian Eide" > <[email protected]> wrote: > > >This is an insult to the penguins, they deserve better neighbours than those animals. > > If they are asked to move to Arctic, only a few ice bears will be > bothered, and if they are not allowed to wear weapons, the ice bears > will handle that, I would believe :-) The "ice bears" have black skin under their white fur. bookburn

    03/05/2003 11:13:22
    1. [GEN-NORDIC] Re: Paul "Persa" Stenhaug (Steinhaug) Pedersen (eller Persen) fra ?Østerdal?
    2. Marianne
    3. [email protected] (Marianne) wrote in message news:<[email protected]>... > Hei Olaf > Min far mente at hans bestefar var født i Trondheim. Men jeg har > ingen sikre kilder foreløpig... > > :-) Marianne > > "Olaf Hansen" <[email protected]> wrote in message news:<[email protected]>... > > Hei Marianne > > > > I ft 1900 står det oppgitt at Paul er født på Frosta ? Har du sikre kilder > > for at det er Trondheim ? > > > > -Olaf > > > > > > "Marianne" <[email protected]> skrev i melding > > news:[email protected] > > > Hei > > > Jeg søker etter forfedrene til Paul Kristian Pedersen født i Trondheim > > > (på Ila ?) rundt 1862. Ved første ekteskap fikk han sønnen Gustav f. > > > 1866 og giftet seg senere med Olianna Kristofersdatter f.1866 på > > > Frosta. Han tok navnet Steinhaug eller Stenhaug da han flyttet til > > > Frosta. Paul og Olianna fikk barna > > > Kristian f. 1889 (min farfar), Paul Kato f.1896 og Gudrun f.26.9.1899 > > > Paul er omtalt i Johan Boyers bok Den Siste Viking hvor han også > > > kalles Paul Persa. > > > Han virket som fisker og drev litt jordbruk på husmannsplassen > > > Steinhaug i bygda Småland på Frosta. > > > Han ble nærmere 90 år og døde på Frosta. > > > > > > Hadde satt stor pris på å høre om andre har funnet ut mer > > > > > > vennlig hilsen > > > Marianne Har fått ny informasjon og det er svært mulig at han opprinnelig er født en eller annen plass i Østerdalen. Det er riktig at han står oppført i folketellingen fra 1900 som født på Frosta men dette er sannsynligvis ikke tilfelle. Det finnes utallige historier om ham; bl.a. rodde han på fiske til Lofoten - som så mange andre - men etter sigende kantret han og mannskapet på veg tilbake på veg inn Trondheimsfjorden(?) og han frøs fast på den kantrete båten i lang tid før han drev til land og ble reddet (denne historien er fortalt på folkemunne - dvs "slektsmunne":-) Egentlig veldig lang og heroisk historie... Vil sette stor pris på all mulig informasjon om ham. vennlig hilsen Marianne Draugsvoll (f. Stenhaug)

    03/05/2003 09:06:23