Hei Rune! I found some more. Margit Annar Elesar Stenersen <KJELSEN ROSHAUU> Sex: M Event(s): Birth: 29 Apr 1823 Place: <Oslo, Akershus, Norway> Christening: 24 Jun 1823 Place: Oslo, Akershus, Norway Parents: Father: Kjel CALBJORNSEN ROSHAUU Mother: Thora Dorothea WARDRUM Source Information: Batch Number: C428254 Source Dates: 1819 - 1828 Film or Fiche Number: 125779 Collection Details: Aker, Garnison; Den Norske Kirke ******************************** I find the above also and below. Johann Colbjornsen ROSHAUW Sex: <M> Event(s): Birth: 10 Sep 1852 Parents: Father: Annar Elisar STENERSEN ROSHAUW Marriage: Spouse: Gunhilda Marie Bolette KOLSTAD Marriage: 22 May 1878 Place: Oslo, Akershus, Norway Source Information: Batch Number: M424661 Source Dates: 1848 - 1884 Film or Fiche Number: 255752 Collection Details: Domkirken, Vor Frelser; Den Norske Kirke > > Looking for living families after; > Kjeld Colbjørnsen Roshauw > Born 24. June 1786 > Dead 28. May 1847 > and his wife > Thora Dorothea Wardrum Roshauw > Born 12. August 1785 > Dead 20. June 1873.

<[email protected]> wrote in message news:[email protected] > I was told by a "name source expert" that my surname, Skirvin, was > Scandanavian, either Norwegian or Swedish, but not Danish. > > A local (Metropolitan Phoenix AZ) professional genalogist found that a > Norwegian ancestor had married an Elizabeth Skirvin in 1730 in Norway. > > I wondered if there are any Norwegion census data online where I could > assess the frequency of the Skirvin surname there. > > The name came to this continent from Scotland. There are a number of > Skirvins and variants of that spelling in the Scottish Church CD-ROMs which > leads me to conjecture that the Skirvin surname was carried to Scotland by > Viking settlers. vikings used no surnames never assume in genealogy you will get stuck Scots mostly came from Ireland Hugh W

Hei Rune, What more do you know about them? I find the following at www.familysearch.org Margit Marie Frederikke Wolff <KJELSDATTER ROSHAUU> Sex: F Event(s): Birth: 15 Jun 1825 Place: <Oslo, Akershus, Norway> Christening: 28 Dec 1825 Place: Oslo, Akershus, Norway Parents: Father: Kjel COLBJORNSEN ROSHAUU Mother: Thora Dorthea ROSHAUU WARDRUM Source Information: Batch Number: C428254 Source Dates: 1825 - 1825 Film or Fiche Number: 125779 Collection Details: Aker, Garnison; Den Norske Kirke ******************************* Joachim Martin Testman <KJELDSEN> Sex: M Event(s): Birth: 07 Sep 1828 Place: <Oslo, Akershus, Norway> Christening: 01 Feb 1829 Place: Oslo, Akershus, Norway Death: 27 Oct 1837 Place: Parents: Father: Kjeld COLBJORNSEN Mother: Thora Dorthea ROSHAUW WARDRUM Source Information: Batch Number: C428255 Source Dates: 1828 - 1858 Film or Fiche Number: 255742 Collection Details: Aker, Garnison; Den Norske Kirke > Looking for living families after; > Kjeld Colbjørnsen Roshauw > Born 24. June 1786 > Dead 28. May 1847 > and his wife > Thora Dorothea Wardrum Roshauw > Born 12. August 1785 > Dead 20. June 1873. > Please answer here, or directly to my E-mail. > Yours > Rune Fosberg > > -- > E-post til Rune sendes: [email protected] > E-mail er sjekket av > Norton AntiVirus 2003 > >

Someone who looks an awful lot like [email protected] wrote: > I wondered if there are any Norwegion census data online where I could > assess the frequency of the Skirvin surname there. You bet - 1664-6, 1801, 1865, and some newer ones. The 1664-6 census is only male landowners and their sons, but the more recent ones are complete. You can get there (in English, even, if you prefer!) at, for instance, http://digitalarkivet.uib.no/cgi-win/wc/webcens.exe?slag=meny&kategori=1&emne=2&spraak=e6 (that needs to be all one line in your browser's address window). The interface takes a bit of getting used to, but you can search by farm name, Fylke (roughly "county"), and so on. If you want to get further back than that, the "Diplomatarium Norvegicum" has collected somewhere around 20,000 records going back to the 13th century, but these are probate & other legal records, some of which have useful genealogical information in them. Another site to check out for your name, would be "O. Rygh's Norske Gaardnavne", which has a search page you can plug your name into to see what's close or matches. It's at: http://www.dokpro.uio.no/rygh_ng/rygh_felt.html It's in Norwegian, but what you want to do is plug your name into "Gaardsnavn" (the a with the circle can be written with 2 a's when you don't have the right keyboard;) and click "S/ok" (search). Hope this helps, Dave Hinz

Robert Heiling <[email protected]> writes: >> I was told by a "name source expert" that my surname, Skirvin, was >> Scandanavian, either Norwegian or Swedish, but not Danish. [...] >> I wondered if there are any Norwegion census data online where I could >> assess the frequency of the Skirvin surname there. >Have you done a Google search: http://www.google.com/ on Skirvin as yet? >There are a lot of hits & information there to look through. *evil grin* - Tim Skirvin ([email protected]) -- http://www.killfile.org/~tskirvin/ Skirv's Homepage <FISH>< <*> http://www.killfile.org/~tskirvin/friends/ Skirv's Friends

Hei! I was referring to Norwegian names. But I did read an article in a Danish newspaper some time ago where they listed the most common names in Denmark. Only when they got past 20 'sen' names did an occupational name come in at # 21 - Møller (miller) and then more 'sen' names. Olaf > If occupational names were uncommon, when did they come into use? > > Smed is also Belgian for Smith [ de Smed ] > And they have Koopmans > > Hi Bo! > > In earlier times occupational names did not seem to be very common, > > presumably because of the patronymic and farm name systems. Even our very > > common Smith's equivalent, Smed is only used by 5 people in 2001. > > Incidentally, Kjøbmand has its equivalent in Scotland as Chapman. > > Olaf > > > > > > > Were occupational names common as family names in the Nordic area? > > > > > > For instance "Kjobmand " only gives abt 88 hits on Google. > > > And many are for the same person... > > > > > > >

[email protected]: > > I was told by a "name source expert" that my surname, Skirvin, was > Scandanavian, either Norwegian or Swedish, but not Danish. > It might be Norwegian, or an anglified version of a Norwegian name. There are several possibilities. > A local (Metropolitan Phoenix AZ) professional genalogist found that a > Norwegian ancestor had married an Elizabeth Skirvin in 1730 in Norway. > > I wondered if there are any Norwegion census data online where I could > assess the frequency of the Skirvin surname there. > > The name came to this continent from Scotland. There are a number of > Skirvins and variants of that spelling in the Scottish Church CD-ROMs which > leads me to conjecture that the Skirvin surname was carried to Scotland by > Viking settlers. > > Any suggestions about research directions would be appreciated. If I understand you right: Your Skirvin ancestor came to America from Scotland? Your question is whether an ancestor of this Skirvin could have brought the name to Scotland from Scandinavia? This is unlikely (though not absolutely impossible). Similar writing can very well be a coincidence. I suggest that you concentrate your research to Scotland and trace your Skirvin line there. If there is a Norwegian Skirvin connection you have to find it in Scotland. Ivar S. Ertesvåg

[email protected] wrote: > I was told by a "name source expert" that my surname, Skirvin, was > Scandanavian, either Norwegian or Swedish, but not Danish. > > A local (Metropolitan Phoenix AZ) professional genalogist found that a > Norwegian ancestor had married an Elizabeth Skirvin in 1730 in Norway. > > I wondered if there are any Norwegion census data online where I could > assess the frequency of the Skirvin surname there. > > The name came to this continent from Scotland. There are a number of > Skirvins and variants of that spelling in the Scottish Church CD-ROMs which > leads me to conjecture that the Skirvin surname was carried to Scotland by > Viking settlers. > > Any suggestions about research directions would be appreciated. Have you done a Google search: http://www.google.com/ on Skirvin as yet? There are a lot of hits & information there to look through. Bob

Such as it is written, it does not seem to be a Norwegian name. But it could have been changed as many other names : http://www.ssb.no/navn/ Neither in the telephone book : http://www.gulesider.no/gsi/whiteSearchFront.do I was thinking of Skjerven or Skjervheim. Regards Kelly Petit <[email protected]> a écrit dans le message de news:[email protected] > I was told by a "name source expert" that my surname, Skirvin, was > Scandanavian, either Norwegian or Swedish, but not Danish. > > A local (Metropolitan Phoenix AZ) professional genalogist found that a > Norwegian ancestor had married an Elizabeth Skirvin in 1730 in Norway. > > I wondered if there are any Norwegion census data online where I could > assess the frequency of the Skirvin surname there. > > The name came to this continent from Scotland. There are a number of > Skirvins and variants of that spelling in the Scottish Church CD-ROMs which > leads me to conjecture that the Skirvin surname was carried to Scotland by > Viking settlers. > > Any suggestions about research directions would be appreciated.

No, not at all common. And in this case it is not his name but his occupation ("Yrke"). BTW, it should really be Kjøbmand, with o-slash. // Bo Johansson "; abu jason" <[email protected]> posted: > Were occupational names common as family names in the Nordic > area? > > For instance "Kjobmand " only gives abt 88 hits on Google. > And many are for the same person... > > > "Bo Johansson" <[email protected]> wrote in message > news:[email protected] >> Kjobmand = merchant, businessman, tradesman >> // Bo Johansson > >> Bruce Huffine <[email protected]> posted: > > ---SNIP--- >>> One last question. The census for 1865 has a column listing >>> of Yrke under which GGF has listed. What does Kjobmand >>> mean?

On Sat, 14 Jun 2003 07:16:52 GMT, "Michael VanBaaren" <[email protected]> wrote: >I would think, if most genealogy enthusiasts were asked, a great majority >want to make a trip back to the ancestral homeland. This kind of sharing is >most definitely ON topic, and posts like mystery person "nospam"'s only >serves to discourage others from feeling they can SHARE this useful agreeheartily. Next time I revise the rules of the list, I shall try to include such stories as relevant :-) (But we need perhaps some voting first)

If occupational names were uncommon, when did they come into use? Smed is also Belgian for Smith [ de Smed ] And they have Koopmans ----- Original Message ----- From: "Olaf" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Friday, June 20, 2003 11:32 PM Subject: [GEN-NORDIC] Occupational names. > Hi Bo! > In earlier times occupational names did not seem to be very common, > presumably because of the patronymic and farm name systems. Even our very > common Smith's equivalent, Smed is only used by 5 people in 2001. > Incidentally, Kjøbmand has its equivalent in Scotland as Chapman. > Olaf > > > > Were occupational names common as family names in the Nordic area? > > > > For instance "Kjobmand " only gives abt 88 hits on Google. > > And many are for the same person... > > >

I assume that "Kjober" < buyer> is somewhat equivalent for "Kjobmand " <seller/monger> Whereas Kaufmann is German... it shows up on lists like http://www.kofoed.org/file/jochum/SURNAMES.html ----- Original Message ----- From: "; abu jason" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Friday, June 20, 2003 10:10 PM Subject: [GEN-NORDIC] Occupational names. > Were occupational names common as family names in the Nordic area? > > For instance "Kjobmand " only gives abt 88 hits on Google. > And many are for the same person... > > > > > > > "Bo Johansson" <[email protected]> wrote in message > news:[email protected] > > Kjobmand = merchant, businessman, tradesman > > // Bo Johansson > > > Bruce Huffine <[email protected]> posted: > > ---SNIP--- > > > One last question. The census for 1865 has a column listing of > > > Yrke under which GGF has listed. What does Kjobmand > > > mean? > >

I was told by a "name source expert" that my surname, Skirvin, was Scandanavian, either Norwegian or Swedish, but not Danish. A local (Metropolitan Phoenix AZ) professional genalogist found that a Norwegian ancestor had married an Elizabeth Skirvin in 1730 in Norway. I wondered if there are any Norwegion census data online where I could assess the frequency of the Skirvin surname there. The name came to this continent from Scotland. There are a number of Skirvins and variants of that spelling in the Scottish Church CD-ROMs which leads me to conjecture that the Skirvin surname was carried to Scotland by Viking settlers. Any suggestions about research directions would be appreciated.

Alf Christophersen wrote: > On Sat, 14 Jun 2003 07:16:52 GMT, "Michael VanBaaren" > <[email protected]> wrote: > > >I would think, if most genealogy enthusiasts were asked, a great majority > >want to make a trip back to the ancestral homeland. This kind of sharing is > >most definitely ON topic, and posts like mystery person "nospam"'s only > >serves to discourage others from feeling they can SHARE this useful > > agreeheartily. > > Next time I revise the rules of the list, I shall try to include such > stories as relevant :-) (But we need perhaps some voting first) Hi Alf Please count my vote as a Yes! :-) I also hope that you will ignore the people who don't have the basic courage to put their full name on their posts. Bob

Were occupational names common as family names in the Nordic area? For instance "Kjobmand " only gives abt 88 hits on Google. And many are for the same person... "Bo Johansson" <[email protected]> wrote in message news:[email protected] > Kjobmand = merchant, businessman, tradesman > // Bo Johansson > Bruce Huffine <[email protected]> posted: > > ---SNIP--- > > One last question. The census for 1865 has a column listing of > > Yrke under which GGF has listed. What does Kjobmand > > mean?

Hi Bo! In earlier times occupational names did not seem to be very common, presumably because of the patronymic and farm name systems. Even our very common Smith's equivalent, Smed is only used by 5 people in 2001. Incidentally, Kjøbmand has its equivalent in Scotland as Chapman. Olaf > Were occupational names common as family names in the Nordic area? > > For instance "Kjobmand " only gives abt 88 hits on Google. > And many are for the same person...

Hi everyone! Just was wondering if anyone has the church record book for Ankenes/Evenes/Narvik... Let me know! yours, Malodie Anderson --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.476 / Virus Database: 273 - Release Date: 24/04/2003

Kjobmand = merchant, businessman, tradesman // Bo Johansson Bruce Huffine <[email protected]> posted: > > ---SNIP--- > One last question. The census for 1865 has a column listing of > Yrke under which GGF has listed. What does Kjobmand > mean? > > Many Thanks > > Bruce Huffine > Stamford, CT > USA

Mange Tak! How could I have missed it! ----- Original Message ----- From: "Margit" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, June 19, 2003 12:22 AM Subject: Re: [GEN-NORDIC] Archive for NORDIC > Go here and you can browse or search the archives: > <http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/intl/NOR/GEN-NORDIC.html> > > Margit > > > > >>> I am looking for the Archive. Can someone help? > >> > >> > > > >