in re: win 8/Gmail: Joy, Already tried all that, also tried installing themes via Stylish and no Themes I have tried work. I don't like any Gmail offers undersettings except colors. All I can get is a plain white page with blank boxes except 'more' appears in its box. The blank boxes will show text when hovered over. I can select boxes appearing before the messages, but no check shows, so if I make an error I won't know unless I check where it/they were supposed to go. To me it appears to be an imaging problem either in FF 18.0.1 or with WIndows 8 Dianna ....... From: Joy Gulden <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [GN] Windows 8 Gmail and Firefox I am running Windows 7 with Firefox 18.0.1, Thunderbird 17.0.2 and I IMAP Gmail into Thunderbird. I cannot seem to find the version of Gmail, so with Win 7, this may not be of help to you. To the right of the Gmail screen, there is a setting icon that I call a lug nut, as I do not know for sure what it is. Click on the down arrow and if my version is the same as yours, there would be a list of options. One of these is Themes. Another is Settings. ------------------- From: "George" <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [GN] JAVA .... I don't recommend deleting JAVA,, you may have some perfectly normal programs that you use that use JAVA .... It should be added that ancestry.com REQUIRES Java be installed and active in order to use their site. Dianna