Thank you. That never entered my mind. Fred, Sr. -----Original Message----- From: gen-newbie-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:gen-newbie-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of gloria creasy Sent: Friday, November 04, 2011 2:51 PM To: gen-newbie@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [GN] Detroit I found it by just going to Google and entering -----Wheeldon murders Detroit. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to GEN-NEWBIE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Just get comfortable talking to google, ignore all the discussions you might have seen about boolean searches or the like. Google is friendly, and it won't bite if you don't give it the information it needs, it won't even chastise you if you give it too much. It will try to answer, and if you don't like the results, try again, a bit differently. Some things require serious stuff like putting quotes around a surname. I did my name recently, ("chicken"" genealogy) and it finally restricted it to family research instead of giving me a fried chicken website, chicken farms, etc., among other hits. For the Wheeldon case, I think I asked for "Wheeldon murders Detroit 1957" (no quotes, just typed that in the search box) and it returned the newspaper article as #1 hit result. Elaine

Would it be helpful to develop to have a pro forma ("formula") method for writing search phrases in our emails? I tend to use the "sideways" carets < > and put the phrase, complete with any " " in the middle. Elaine's example would be: < "chicken" genealogy > It doesn't matter whether or not someone copies the carets into the search phrase, Google ignores them. My Chicken quest was perfect. Got 27 million+ results, the first page was all accurate until you get to "Can you read a Drunk Chicken?" which has to do with reading Japanese writing while researching Japanese genealogy, so it still was really correct. Not so with "Wheeldon murders Detroit 1957" -- which gets no results. And it avoids people from having to explain how to copy the search phrase. I use the <> for other things that aren't exactly "parenthetical remarks", such as my sideways comments <G> or <grin>. I don't know if Elaine used the parens on hers, ("chicken"" genealogy) , but that worked just the same way. Ideas? Anything that avoids " " and Google doesn't account for would work, I suppose. Pat In Tucson -----Original Message----- From: gen-newbie-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:gen-newbie-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of List Administration Sent: Saturday, November 05, 2011 10:04 AM To: Fred Powell, Sr. Subject: [GN] Googling suggestions Just get comfortable talking to google, ignore all the discussions you might have seen about boolean searches or the like. Google is friendly, and it won't bite if you don't give it the information it needs, it won't even chastise you if you give it too much. It will try to answer, and if you don't like the results, try again, a bit differently. Some things require serious stuff like putting quotes around a surname. I did my name recently, ("chicken"" genealogy) and it finally restricted it to family research instead of giving me a fried chicken website, chicken farms, etc., among other hits. For the Wheeldon case, I think I asked for "Wheeldon murders Detroit 1957" (no quotes, just typed that in the search box) and it returned the newspaper article as #1 hit result. Elaine ******************** Gen-Newbie's website: http://www.rootsweb.com/~newbie/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to GEN-NEWBIE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Check the hits at http://www.google.com/search?q=Wheeldon+murders+Detroit+1957&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&aq=t&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&client=firefox-a I am not certain why you didn't have hits. Elaine > Not so with "Wheeldon murders Detroit 1957" -- which gets no results.

I had parens around my search terms previously because I was talking. The search term as typed in the google box was "chicken" genealogy I think if we want to create a lesson, our exchange so far might be confusing. Elaine > Elaine's example would be: > < "chicken" genealogy > > It doesn't matter whether or not someone copies > the carets into the search > phrase, Google ignores them. > My Chicken quest was perfect. Got 27 million+ > results, the first page was > all accurate until you get to "Can you read a > Drunk Chicken?" which has to > do with reading Japanese writing while > researching Japanese genealogy, so it > still was really correct. > Not so with "Wheeldon murders Detroit 1957" -- which gets no results.