John if I am reading this correctly, the BIL is likely your wife's brother. Now the son is from another marriage/relationship of the mother; so no blood relationship to your BIL, your wife or you. However, blood relationship is very often not how we think of those we love. I have two grandchildren that would be considered my son's stepchildren but to him they are his children and to me they are my grandchildren. Now my genealogy program will list them as step - whatever. Marilyn On Mon, Dec 5, 2011 at 6:49 PM, john condon <st8aro@yahoo.com> wrote: > My Brother-in-law has a son from his wife's first marriage, the Son has a > child. > What relationship is the Child to me (or my wife)? > > No formal adoption papers were ever started. > > To complicate this whole thing - - - Son of wife's 1st marriage has 2 > children, each child has a different mother. > > My F-I-L states they are "His left handed Grandchildren' > > Anyone with a better name for this relationship? > John > > ******************** > > Gen-Newbie's website: > > http://www.rootsweb.com/~newbie/ > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > GEN-NEWBIE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > -- "If you don't get outside every day, even for a minute, you have not appreciated what God has done. It makes you grateful for our surroundings, and it starts your day differently." Johnny Cash