Yes, the download is free most places. I have downloaded books at Micky D's several times. Frances TX Gulf Coast ----- Original Message ----- From: "Marie K. Burt" <mariekburt@bellsouth.net> To: <gen-newbie@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, November 07, 2011 7:51 AM Subject: Re: [GN] GEN-NEWBIE Digest, Vol 6, Issue 458 >I too know nothing about WiFi. Is the download of a book free? I wouldn't > think so. > > Marie

>From what I have read, there are some book downloads that are free. Also some public libraries will let you download books for a period of time. Jean ----- Original Message ----- From: "Marie K. Burt" <mariekburt@bellsouth.net> To: <gen-newbie@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, November 07, 2011 7:51 AM Subject: Re: [GN] GEN-NEWBIE Digest, Vol 6, Issue 458 >I too know nothing about WiFi. Is the download of a book free? I wouldn't > think so. > > Marie > > -----Original Message----- > From: gen-newbie-request@rootsweb.com > Sent: Monday, November 07, 2011 3:00 AM > To: gen-newbie@rootsweb.com > Subject: GEN-NEWBIE Digest, Vol 6, Issue 458 > > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: WiFi (ETM) > 2. Re: WiFi (marilyn E B) > 3. Re: WiFi (Jean Masoner) > 4. Giddie up - go time (Blondie Mock) > 5. Re: Giddie up - go time (M Robards) > 6. Re: Giddie up - go time (Bruce Kemp) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Sun, 6 Nov 2011 03:15:30 -0500 > From: ETM <etm1935@gmail.com> > Subject: Re: [GN] WiFi > To: gen-newbie@rootsweb.com > Message-ID: <1549154780.20111106031530@gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-15 > > Hi Jean, > > You also may not need much to set it up at home. I > gave my sister a wifi only Kindle for Christmas > last year. She called Geek Squad and they set up > wifi in her home because she had internet > connection for her computer, it just wasn't > wireless. The Geek Squad loved her Kindle and she > loves not having to go to the library. > > I know others who use their libraries and I > believe one uses his McDonald's. > > Elaine > > Hello Bruce > > On Saturday, November 5, 2011, you wrote > >> On 11/05/2011 11:00 AM, Jean Masoner wrote: >>> I know absolutely nothing about wifi or how it works. I have a >>> question. >>> >>> I am thinking about getting the new Kindle that is being advertized for >>> $79 >>> and has wifi. Can someone tell me what you would need in order to use >>> the >>> wifi? The public library here has wifi. Do I need anything to connect >>> to >>> the wifi at the library? >>> >>> Jean >>> > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Sun, 6 Nov 2011 16:15:13 -0500 > From: marilyn E B <marilyneb@gmail.com> > Subject: Re: [GN] WiFi > To: gen-newbie@rootsweb.com > Message-ID: > <CAEYUOOg8K_Z3=QxKU6TPyF8V9phwjotk1D6x=KYwwyiPdG=VPA@mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 > > Here in Knoxville you will find wifi in many localities. Our new Kroger's > store even has a few tables and chairs close to the entry that is for wifi > users. I have also seen car service areas that advertise wifi for their > customers. So keep your eyes open for wifi in all areas. > > Marilyn > > On Sun, Nov 6, 2011 at 3:15 AM, ETM <etm1935@gmail.com> wrote: > >> Hi Jean, >> >> You also may not need much to set it up at home. I >> gave my sister a wifi only Kindle for Christmas >> last year. She called Geek Squad and they set up >> wifi in her home because she had internet >> connection for her computer, it just wasn't >> wireless. The Geek Squad loved her Kindle and she >> loves not having to go to the library. >> >> I know others who use their libraries and I >> believe one uses his McDonald's. >> >> Elaine >> >> Hello Bruce >> >> On Saturday, November 5, 2011, you wrote >> >> > On 11/05/2011 11:00 AM, Jean Masoner wrote: >> > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 3 > Date: Sun, 6 Nov 2011 19:20:51 -0600 > From: "Jean Masoner" <jmasoner@isc-durant.com> > Subject: Re: [GN] WiFi > To: <gen-newbie@rootsweb.com> > Message-ID: <EBAAF570BBC249B59D69BBD7798C2D21@jeanbe37a0913a> > Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; > reply-type=original > > Thanks to everyone for the help on wifi. > > Jean > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "marilyn E B" <marilyneb@gmail.com> > To: <gen-newbie@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Sunday, November 06, 2011 3:15 PM > Subject: Re: [GN] WiFi > > >> Here in Knoxville you will find wifi in many localities. Our new Kroger's >> store even has a few tables and chairs close to the entry that is for >> wifi >> users. I have also seen car service areas that advertise wifi for their >> customers. So keep your eyes open for wifi in all areas. >> >> Marilyn >> >> On Sun, Nov 6, 2011 at 3:15 AM, ETM <etm1935@gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> Hi Jean, >>> >>> You also may not need much to set it up at home. I >>> gave my sister a wifi only Kindle for Christmas >>> last year. She called Geek Squad and they set up >>> wifi in her home because she had internet >>> connection for her computer, it just wasn't >>> wireless. The Geek Squad loved her Kindle and she >>> loves not having to go to the library. >>> >>> I know others who use their libraries and I >>> believe one uses his McDonald's. >>> >>> Elaine >>> >>> Hello Bruce >>> >>> On Saturday, November 5, 2011, you wrote >>> >>> > On 11/05/2011 11:00 AM, Jean Masoner wrote: >>> >> >> ******************** >> >> Gen-Newbie's website: >> >> http://www.rootsweb.com/~newbie/ >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> GEN-NEWBIE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 4 > Date: Mon, 07 Nov 2011 01:43:12 GMT > From: Blondie Mock <ZooKeeperss@webtv.net> > Subject: [GN] Giddie up - go time > To: gen-newbie@rootsweb.com > Message-ID: <COL118-DS9D14478EB17F3E9BB0483AFD90@phx.gbl> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" > > Well, gang, made a leap of faith...After the last dr. visit and a clean > health record, my 1st stop was the Verizon show case, now have a new > Iphone-4, oh, that's fun, then signed up for wi-fi and its now > installed, but I am so far behind in anti- virus ware, its been 3 days > installing, (whew), now waiting to install my NETGEAR USB port, package > says can't until the updates are installed, ok, I wait some more! Then I > bought a MAGIC JACK, with the intension of adding it to the wall phone > plug, but it says has to plugged into the p/c...huh? Won't any phone > plug work on it? Guess I need now computrer schooling, wanta help? TIA. > > ~ Linda ~ > Willow Creek,CA. > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 5 > Date: Sun, 6 Nov 2011 18:22:05 -0800 > From: M Robards <pezealogy@gmail.com> > Subject: Re: [GN] Giddie up - go time > To: gen-newbie@rootsweb.com > Message-ID: > <CAC9u4dt0w8c+PizTGr9q-EmAacEZ-p7_x+rt4=Z9pv=Zf=_LHg@mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 > > Linda, we have a MagicJack phone. Have had it for several years, 3 or > 4? It uses our broadband and it works fine, as long as someone isn't > 'using' the computer the MJ is plugged into. We have it on the less > powerful of our two main computers. I have my gmail as the contact > email, so when someone phones and we don't answer the voice message is > left on my gmail account. That part is sort of crappy, but at least > we know there was a call and can phone back if we can't understand the > message. We all already have cell phones, already pay too much for > those, so I saw no reason to keep paying 40 a month for the land > phone. > > melissa > > On Sun, Nov 6, 2011 at 5:43 PM, Blondie Mock <ZooKeeperss@webtv.net> > wrote: >> Well, gang, made a leap of faith...After the last dr. visit and a clean >> health record, my 1st stop was the Verizon show case, now have a new >> Iphone-4, oh, that's fun, then signed up for wi-fi and its now >> installed, but I am so far behind in anti- virus ware, its been 3 days >> installing, (whew), now waiting to install my NETGEAR USB port, package >> says can't until the updates are installed, ok, I wait some more! Then I >> bought a MAGIC JACK, with the intension of adding it to the wall phone >> plug, but it says has to plugged into the p/c...huh? Won't any phone >> plug work on it? Guess I need now computrer schooling, wanta help? TIA. >> >> ~ Linda ~ >> Willow Creek,CA. >> >> >> >> ******************** >> >> Gen-Newbie's website: >> >> http://www.rootsweb.com/~newbie/ >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> GEN-NEWBIE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 6 > Date: Sun, 06 Nov 2011 21:36:20 -0800 > From: Bruce Kemp <wb7ooe@wbcable.net> > Subject: Re: [GN] Giddie up - go time > To: gen-newbie@rootsweb.com > Message-ID: <4EB76E54.7030508@wbcable.net> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed > > On 11/06/2011 05:43 PM, Blondie Mock wrote: >> Then I >> bought a MAGIC JACK, with the intension of adding it to the wall phone >> plug, but it says has to plugged into the p/c...huh? Won't any phone >> plug work on it? Guess I need now computrer schooling, wanta help? TIA. >> >> >> > There are now 2 verities of Magic Jack devices. I had one of the > original ones that plug into a computer that was on a dedicated > computer. When that computer went bad, I ordered the new Magic Jack Plus > that only uses the computer to register it and then it connects into a > power supply, the phone, and a LAN cable. They both work very well, but > the newer one is a lot cheaper on the electrical power to use. > Bruce > > -- > Registered Linux user number 482434. > > "If we were meant to be nude, we would have been born that way." > > > > ------------------------------ > > To contact the GEN-NEWBIE list administrator, send an email to > GEN-NEWBIE-admin@rootsweb.com. > > To post a message to the GEN-NEWBIE mailing list, send an email to > GEN-NEWBIE@rootsweb.com. > > __________________________________________________________ > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > GEN-NEWBIE-request@rootsweb.com > with the word "unsubscribe" without the quotes in the subject and the body > of the > email with no additional text. > > > End of GEN-NEWBIE Digest, Vol 6, Issue 458 > ****************************************** > > > ******************** > > Gen-Newbie's website: > > http://www.rootsweb.com/~newbie/ > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > GEN-NEWBIE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Thnx, Bruce, I wasn't aware of the 'new' version. So you still need internet service, you just plug it into your computer for a minute to register, and then directly into your router? Is that what the LAN cable is? What do you mean about the new one being cheaper to use? Because you can turn off your computer, since the old one wouldn't work if your computer was turned off?? We don't turn ours off very often, maybe we should. sorry for so many questions :) melissa On Sun, Nov 6, 2011 at 9:36 PM, Bruce Kemp <wb7ooe@wbcable.net> wrote >> > There are now 2 verities of Magic Jack devices. I had one of the > original ones that plug into a computer that was on a dedicated > computer. When that computer went bad, I ordered the new Magic Jack Plus > that only uses the computer to register it and then it connects into a > power supply, the phone, and a LAN cable. They both work very well, but > the newer one is a lot cheaper on the electrical power to use. > Bruce

Hi Linda Magic jack explains on their website how to use it. you must plug it into the USB port of your computer, then you can connect a phone to the other end of Magic Jack. It's not a land line, it operates on the VOIP principal so you can't plug it into a phone jack. Magic Jack PLUS (it's new) does not require a computer to work. For MJ PLUS you simply plug it directly into a router and a normal electrical outlet I have MJ, love it but recently ordered MJ PLUS as I want to have access 24/7 without leaving my computer on. Lorine quoted message: Message: 4 Date: Mon, 07 Nov 2011 01:43:12 GMT From: Blondie Mock <ZooKeeperss@webtv.net> Subject: [GN] Giddie up - go time To: gen-newbie@rootsweb.com Message-ID: <COL118- DS9D14478EB17F3E9BB0483AFD90@phx.gbl> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Well, gang, made a leap of faith...After the last dr. visit and a clean health record, my 1st stop was the Verizon show case, now have a new Iphone-4, oh, that's fun, then signed up for wi-fi and its now installed, but I am so far behind in anti- virus ware, its been 3 days installing, (whew), now waiting to install my NETGEAR USB port, package says can't until the updates are installed, ok, I wait some more! Then I bought a MAGIC JACK, with the intension of adding it to the wall phone plug, but it says has to plugged into the p/c...huh? Won't any phone plug work on it? Guess I need now computrer schooling, wanta help? TIA. ~ Linda ~ Willow Creek,CA. -- ----- Lorine McGinnis Schulze Olive Tree Genealogy http://www.olivetreegenealogy.com olivetreegenealogy@gmail.com

Do you have a security system that uses a cell phone and if so, will you share the name of the system or how the connection works. ellen Linda, we have a MagicJack phone. Have had it for several years, 3 or > 4? It uses our broadband and it works fine, as long as someone isn't > 'using' the computer the MJ is plugged into. We have it on the less > powerful of our two main computers. I have my gmail as the contact > email, so when someone phones and we don't answer the voice message is > left on my gmail account. That part is sort of crappy, but at least > we know there was a call and can phone back if we can't understand the > message. We all already have cell phones, already pay too much for > those, so I saw no reason to keep paying 40 a month for the land > phone. > > melissa > > On Sun, Nov 6, 2011 at 5:43 PM, Blondie Mock <ZooKeeperss@webtv.net> > wrote:

Well, gang, made a leap of faith...After the last dr. visit and a clean health record, my 1st stop was the Verizon show case, now have a new Iphone-4, oh, that's fun, then signed up for wi-fi and its now installed, but I am so far behind in anti- virus ware, its been 3 days installing, (whew), now waiting to install my NETGEAR USB port, package says can't until the updates are installed, ok, I wait some more! Then I bought a MAGIC JACK, with the intension of adding it to the wall phone plug, but it says has to plugged into the p/c...huh? Won't any phone plug work on it? Guess I need now computrer schooling, wanta help? TIA. ~ Linda ~ Willow Creek,CA.

On 11/06/2011 05:43 PM, Blondie Mock wrote: > Then I > bought a MAGIC JACK, with the intension of adding it to the wall phone > plug, but it says has to plugged into the p/c...huh? Won't any phone > plug work on it? Guess I need now computrer schooling, wanta help? TIA. > > > There are now 2 verities of Magic Jack devices. I had one of the original ones that plug into a computer that was on a dedicated computer. When that computer went bad, I ordered the new Magic Jack Plus that only uses the computer to register it and then it connects into a power supply, the phone, and a LAN cable. They both work very well, but the newer one is a lot cheaper on the electrical power to use. Bruce -- Registered Linux user number 482434. "If we were meant to be nude, we would have been born that way."

Thanks to everyone for the help on wifi. Jean ----- Original Message ----- From: "marilyn E B" <marilyneb@gmail.com> To: <gen-newbie@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, November 06, 2011 3:15 PM Subject: Re: [GN] WiFi > Here in Knoxville you will find wifi in many localities. Our new Kroger's > store even has a few tables and chairs close to the entry that is for wifi > users. I have also seen car service areas that advertise wifi for their > customers. So keep your eyes open for wifi in all areas. > > Marilyn > > On Sun, Nov 6, 2011 at 3:15 AM, ETM <etm1935@gmail.com> wrote: > >> Hi Jean, >> >> You also may not need much to set it up at home. I >> gave my sister a wifi only Kindle for Christmas >> last year. She called Geek Squad and they set up >> wifi in her home because she had internet >> connection for her computer, it just wasn't >> wireless. The Geek Squad loved her Kindle and she >> loves not having to go to the library. >> >> I know others who use their libraries and I >> believe one uses his McDonald's. >> >> Elaine >> >> Hello Bruce >> >> On Saturday, November 5, 2011, you wrote >> >> > On 11/05/2011 11:00 AM, Jean Masoner wrote: >> > > ******************** > > Gen-Newbie's website: > > http://www.rootsweb.com/~newbie/ > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > GEN-NEWBIE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Linda, we have a MagicJack phone. Have had it for several years, 3 or 4? It uses our broadband and it works fine, as long as someone isn't 'using' the computer the MJ is plugged into. We have it on the less powerful of our two main computers. I have my gmail as the contact email, so when someone phones and we don't answer the voice message is left on my gmail account. That part is sort of crappy, but at least we know there was a call and can phone back if we can't understand the message. We all already have cell phones, already pay too much for those, so I saw no reason to keep paying 40 a month for the land phone. melissa On Sun, Nov 6, 2011 at 5:43 PM, Blondie Mock <ZooKeeperss@webtv.net> wrote: > Well, gang, made a leap of faith...After the last dr. visit and a clean > health record, my 1st stop was the Verizon show case, now have a new > Iphone-4, oh, that's fun, then signed up for wi-fi and its now > installed, but I am so far behind in anti- virus ware, its been 3 days > installing, (whew), now waiting to install my NETGEAR USB port, package > says can't until the updates are installed, ok, I wait some more! Then I > bought a MAGIC JACK, with the intension of adding it to the wall phone > plug, but it says has to plugged into the p/c...huh? Won't any phone > plug work on it? Guess I need now computrer schooling, wanta help? TIA. > > ~ Linda ~ > Willow Creek,CA. > > > > ******************** > > Gen-Newbie's website: > > http://www.rootsweb.com/~newbie/ > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to GEN-NEWBIE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Here in Knoxville you will find wifi in many localities. Our new Kroger's store even has a few tables and chairs close to the entry that is for wifi users. I have also seen car service areas that advertise wifi for their customers. So keep your eyes open for wifi in all areas. Marilyn On Sun, Nov 6, 2011 at 3:15 AM, ETM <etm1935@gmail.com> wrote: > Hi Jean, > > You also may not need much to set it up at home. I > gave my sister a wifi only Kindle for Christmas > last year. She called Geek Squad and they set up > wifi in her home because she had internet > connection for her computer, it just wasn't > wireless. The Geek Squad loved her Kindle and she > loves not having to go to the library. > > I know others who use their libraries and I > believe one uses his McDonald's. > > Elaine > > Hello Bruce > > On Saturday, November 5, 2011, you wrote > > > On 11/05/2011 11:00 AM, Jean Masoner wrote: >

Hi Jean, You also may not need much to set it up at home. I gave my sister a wifi only Kindle for Christmas last year. She called Geek Squad and they set up wifi in her home because she had internet connection for her computer, it just wasn't wireless. The Geek Squad loved her Kindle and she loves not having to go to the library. I know others who use their libraries and I believe one uses his McDonald's. Elaine Hello Bruce On Saturday, November 5, 2011, you wrote > On 11/05/2011 11:00 AM, Jean Masoner wrote: >> I know absolutely nothing about wifi or how it works. I have a question. >> >> I am thinking about getting the new Kindle that is being advertized for $79 >> and has wifi. Can someone tell me what you would need in order to use the >> wifi? The public library here has wifi. Do I need anything to connect to >> the wifi at the library? >> >> Jean >>

On 11/05/2011 11:00 AM, Jean Masoner wrote: > I know absolutely nothing about wifi or how it works. I have a question. > > I am thinking about getting the new Kindle that is being advertized for $79 > and has wifi. Can someone tell me what you would need in order to use the > wifi? The public library here has wifi. Do I need anything to connect to > the wifi at the library? > > Jean > > > ******************** > > Gen-Newbie's website: > > http://www.rootsweb.com/~newbie/ > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to GEN-NEWBIE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > No. Bruce -- Registered Linux user number 482434. "If we were meant to be nude, we would have been born that way."

This is a forwarded message From: .... valentine53179 <valentine53179@hotmail.com> one of the nice things about google is what is offered that isnt a direct result of your query but which CAN help you! look at this entry: FamilySearch.org - Family History and Genealogy Records Search for family ancestors. Billions of free family tree, family history, ancestry, genealogy and census records. www.familysearch.org/ - 3k - Cached - Similar pages notice cached... scout that.... and then notice similar pages... and each of those too have cached or similar pages... and on the right margin of google are advertisers... but they might be web pages that have advertising ON them so glance that way once in a while... if you ever get a        page not found      try that cached page... this will come in handy (it might recover what WAS on the web) on those entries that are at the end of the results lists... ... i think i have found some of my best info in these dredges of results... and the cache option was such a good thing!

This is a forwarded message From: .... valentine53179 <valentine53179@hotmail.com> re: this statement made recently: "I love bread pudding and this sounded SO wonderful!  I did a google search.....  sour lemon sauce + martha stewart.  Just a few hits down and I clicked on the recipe." but a query such as "sour lemon sauce" +"martha stewart" instead of sour lemon sauce + martha stewart would have given you 10 REAL and VALID results instead of 44,440 or even "kris  kringle bread puDDing" would have done the job... actually the + in this: sour lemon sauce + martha stewart is totally unnecessary since each of these five words is being considered in the google search as evenly valued because of how they are written and where the + was placed in conjunction to the word that follows it...... in the 44400 results, are all the entries for sour and all the entries for lemon and all the entries for sauce, etc.... google just put them all into a priority sequence based on the number of hits on all the words that were expressed.... by quoting the information, YOU tell the google computer to do more than just prioritizing them based on HITS.... if it were a query about something important, you might look at those 44,400 results and say, GEE, I AM NOT GOING TO GO THRU ALL OF THOSE! IT WILL TAKE A LIFETIME! and you m-i-g-h-t give up... so, structure the query in a method to get what you want even on the unimportant stuff...and it will become second nature

This is a forwarded message From: .... valentine53179 <valentine53179@hotmail.com> here, a few quickie pointers.. do NOT use caps... always use lower case... even in surnames and places... lower case.... do not use plural unless that S is part of a proper name for instance... if you are looking for egg and you enter in eggs,  you will not get many egg results... however, depending on how the text is structured, the writer might have had to use eggs and so you would ONLY get those results where EGGS occurred... If you entered in egg then you would get eggs AND egg in the results... if you are sure that you want a specific word and not a part of a word (foreword perhaps)  then structure your query as " word " with a space before the word word and after the ". consider this on FIND tools as well, not just google too... And in  your Control+F on your WORD documents and in your replace actions on WORD as well... if you ever have two words that go together, then quote them.... ditto with initials of someone...

This is a forwarded message From: .... valentine53179 <valentine53179@hotmail.com> let's say you are looking for "wild bill"  in between the years of 1840 and 1850 but don’t want to go about looking at the query results for 1840 and then 1841 and then 1842 etcetcetc... here is how... enter in exactly "wild bill" +"numrange:1840..1850"   should be "wild bill" +"1840..1850"    or "wild bill" +1840..1850 yes there are TWO...not THREE..dots! and  yes, there are quotes around each of the query components... that is because I don’t want to see all the entries that have wild and I don’t want to see all the entries that have bill I WANT to see the entries that have WILD BILL continguous to each other and so I Quote them.... I don’t use ' I use " now, I will say that people on the list will put in wild +bill +1840 and they say they are happy with the results... but if you are going to do that then wild bill 1840 is just as good and so save  yourself the trouble of the + because google now ASSUMES the + a few words about the placement of the + if you enter it as wild + bill with spaces between, you are accomplishing nothing... you must place the +directly next to the qualifier that you have following it to work... so look at what I have noted in the first entries and see the placement... when making a statement you mist consider the space as important as a symbol or character.... I would very much like to see people tell us exactly what they used in their query when they have said that they tried to find something and did not feel that they were successful... copy and paste EXACTLY what you used and let others on the list see and we can help you with a better structure.. creating a query is no different in importance than asking about how to print a web page or which adaware version etcetctc that we talk about... and if you get critical comments about those types of posts from other listers, then dismiss them... the object is to learn... and if you do not understand what someone is stating, then it behooves you and others to ask for clarification...

This is a forwarded message From: .... valentine53179 <valentine53179@hotmail.com> AN EXERCISE for newbies here is the Original Message: "having a brain freeze today, could sks please tell me the name of the site the names of those killed in the Wars, and it tells you when they were killed and were they are buried." so, we see that the writer knows what she wants and actually has the info that she needs to make a decent enough query on google... as in                         war killed buried just like that... just as I have it... all words that were used in the note to the list.. and in the first five results, not only does the american battle monuments page come up as TOPS but from there will have links to the various wars and the WWII memorial page... and some extra surprises on top of it...

Old article, but still good. http://www.searchforancestors.com/archives/google.html Elaine

This is a forwarded message from a reader it is because she put quotes on all the unrelated words as a single unit.. a perfect example of how not to use quotes! On Sat, Nov 5, 2011 at 2:03 PM, ETM <etm1935@gmail.com> wrote: > Check the hits at > > http://www.google.com/search?q=Wheeldon+murders+Detroit+1957&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&aq=t&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&client=firefox-a > > I am not certain why you didn't have hits. > > Elaine > >> Not so with "Wheeldon murders Detroit 1957" -- which gets no results. >

This is a forwarded message from a reader: you need to u nderstand quote marks as in the detroit query where you received no hits... the quotes tell google to find those specific words adjacent to each other. That is why you might get a jazillion hits with pat in tucson but only those results that are valid it you use "pat in tucson" in the case of Etm's "chicken" genealogy The logic is that it is a name, a noun specifically and those places where chicken is an adverb or an adjective are totally skipped. The presence of genealogy is the logic where somewhere on the page or result, is genealogy, even if not specific to the location on that page where chicken is found... in the case of upper and lower case, always regardless of what is proper english, use lower case. Lower case will deliver upper and lower wherease it is likely that an upper case statement will NOT deliver the lower case results. carots are a nuisance and what you are trying to do is bracket as in code. It does nothing but confuse people. the only thing that <> are valid for nowadays are in email addresses... period. in the case of Wheeldon murders Detroit 1957.... Detroit is used by itself because there arent too many DETROITS in the world but it perhaps it was in a town that exists in several places in the world such as..... washington one would have said Wheeldon murders "washington dc" 1957 or Wheeldon murders "washington il" 1957 if in the case one was not sure of the year, then wheeldon murders detroit numrange:1955..1965 (NOTICE 2, not 3 or 1 but TWO dots here and yes, it is important) which then would deliver the results of the act and then any subsequent trial/court information (it did result in 197 results...) however, then comes those nuisance results... like christopher the choreographer so the quesry should be changed ot wheeldon murders detroit numrange:1955..1965 -christopher (notice the dash has no space between istelf and the next word..., if yu you the space, then the machine will assume that the - and christopher are both part of the results you wish.) (now we are down to 59 results... but lets just say that one of the murdered WAS a christopher, then instead use -choreographer. One error in the whole of this is the single word MURDERS it should be murder NO S... Google will look for what you have entered but will not make the word shorter... entering in murder will get you murder AND MURDERS.... On Sat, Nov 5, 2011 at 1:47 PM, Kith-n-Kin <Kith-n-Kin@cox.net> wrote: > Would it be helpful to develop to have a pro forma ("formula") method  for > writing search phrases in our emails? > > I tend to use the "sideways" carets < > and put the phrase, complete with > any " " in the middle. > > Elaine's example would be: > > < "chicken" genealogy > > > It doesn't matter whether or not someone copies the carets into the search > phrase, Google ignores them. > > My Chicken quest was perfect. Got 27 million+ results, the first page was > all accurate until you get to "Can you read a Drunk Chicken?" which has to > do with reading Japanese writing while researching Japanese genealogy, so it > still was really correct. > > Not so with "Wheeldon murders Detroit 1957" -- which gets no results. > > And it avoids people from having to explain how to copy the search phrase. > > I use the <> for other things that aren't exactly "parenthetical remarks", > such as my sideways comments  <G> or <grin>. > > I don't know if Elaine used the parens on hers, ("chicken"" genealogy) , but > that worked just the same way. > > Ideas? Anything that avoids " " and Google doesn't account for would work, I > suppose. > > Pat > In Tucson > > -----Original Message----- > From: gen-newbie-bounces@rootsweb.com > [mailto:gen-newbie-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of List Administration > Sent: Saturday, November 05, 2011 10:04 AM > To: Fred Powell, Sr. > Subject: [GN] Googling suggestions > > Just get comfortable talking to google, ignore all > the discussions you might have seen about boolean > searches or the like. Google is friendly, and it > won't bite if you don't give it the information it > needs, it won't even chastise you if you give it > too much. It will try to answer, and if you don't > like the results, try again, a bit differently. > > Some things require serious stuff like putting > quotes around a surname. I did my name recently, > ("chicken"" genealogy) and it finally restricted > it to family research instead of giving me a fried > chicken website, chicken farms, etc., among other > hits. > > For the Wheeldon case, I think I asked for > "Wheeldon murders Detroit 1957" (no quotes, just > typed that in the search box) and it returned > the newspaper article as #1 hit result. > > Elaine > >