It is a nice clean look and easy to follow * Jim Hope* On 13/11/2011 9:54 AM, Maxine wrote: > Thanks Lorine, > I didn't see anything wrong with the 'old' look. (grin) > > On 11/13/2011 5:16 AM, Olive Tree Genealogy wrote: >> Maxine >> >> Everyone using gmail will be transitioned to the "new look" at some point. >> Google is just giving you the option to take a peek ahead of time, or >> switch now. >> >> I switched last week. It's just a new way of showing you your mail. I'd >> suggest you switch and take the "tour" to see what's new. You're going to >> have to eventually! >> >> Lorine >> >> >> On Sun, Nov 13, 2011 at 3:00 AM,<gen-newbie-request@rootsweb.com> wrote: >> From: Uptha Creek<mpm1944@gmail.com> >> Subject: [GN] another gmail question >> To: Gen-Newbie@rootsweb.com >> Message-ID: >> <CALYF5ZQT14cGJV8AjQotYqLH6T18SZuRGojahD1qnB_c+0_8vA@mail.gmail.com> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 >> >> Down in the lower right hand corner there appears a box "switch to the new >> look". I haven't a clue as to what that is and don't want to get into >> something I may have trouble getting out of. >> Can someone explain what that "new look" is? >> Thanks again. >> Maxine >> > ******************** > > Gen-Newbie's website: > > http://www.rootsweb.com/~newbie/ > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to GEN-NEWBIE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Maxine Everyone using gmail will be transitioned to the "new look" at some point. Google is just giving you the option to take a peek ahead of time, or switch now. I switched last week. It's just a new way of showing you your mail. I'd suggest you switch and take the "tour" to see what's new. You're going to have to eventually! Lorine On Sun, Nov 13, 2011 at 3:00 AM, <gen-newbie-request@rootsweb.com> wrote: From: Uptha Creek <mpm1944@gmail.com> Subject: [GN] another gmail question To: Gen-Newbie@rootsweb.com Message-ID: <CALYF5ZQT14cGJV8AjQotYqLH6T18SZuRGojahD1qnB_c+0_8vA@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Down in the lower right hand corner there appears a box "switch to the new look". I haven't a clue as to what that is and don't want to get into something I may have trouble getting out of. Can someone explain what that "new look" is? Thanks again. Maxine -- ----- Lorine McGinnis Schulze Olive Tree Genealogy http://www.olivetreegenealogy.com olivetreegenealogy@gmail.com

Thanks Lorine, I didn't see anything wrong with the 'old' look. (grin) On 11/13/2011 5:16 AM, Olive Tree Genealogy wrote: > Maxine > > Everyone using gmail will be transitioned to the "new look" at some point. > Google is just giving you the option to take a peek ahead of time, or > switch now. > > I switched last week. It's just a new way of showing you your mail. I'd > suggest you switch and take the "tour" to see what's new. You're going to > have to eventually! > > Lorine > > > On Sun, Nov 13, 2011 at 3:00 AM,<gen-newbie-request@rootsweb.com> wrote: > From: Uptha Creek<mpm1944@gmail.com> > Subject: [GN] another gmail question > To: Gen-Newbie@rootsweb.com > Message-ID: > <CALYF5ZQT14cGJV8AjQotYqLH6T18SZuRGojahD1qnB_c+0_8vA@mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 > > Down in the lower right hand corner there appears a box "switch to the new > look". I haven't a clue as to what that is and don't want to get into > something I may have trouble getting out of. > Can someone explain what that "new look" is? > Thanks again. > Maxine >

Hi gang, today while at my local Sears store, found MJ+ on sale $39.95, also Target...Merry Christmas for some lucky body(s). ~ Linda ~ Willow Creek,CA.

Hi, Linda, If your laptop is less than 5 yrs. old, it prob. already has wireless "reception" built in and you would not need the "wirelss USB port" assuming you mean a wireless USB reception device........ Cora _________________ Hi Gang, May I answer all the questions here at once as each is connected to the other, to the laptop. 1.start with a basic service of phone co. 2.then add a router, a 5 port is plenty, as it splits the phone signal for multi computer use within that area. each p/c will not have interference of anothers use, 3. the Magic Jack Plus is for wireless use, but is plugged into the router not the laptop, the orginal MJ required a p/c to function and kept the p/c tied up..and on. 4. from the router i will be plugging in a wirelss USB port. this allows me to wander the house with the laptop while in use. Now if this works, it will be a miracle! believe me. ~ Linda ~ Willow Creek,CA.

Thanks, I will leave it for now. Just another thing I do not like about gmail. On Sat, Nov 12, 2011 at 8:36 AM, M Robards <pezealogy@gmail.com> wrote: > Maxine, > > Google is changing the appearance of gmail. You can opt in to change > 'now', or you can change later. 'Later' they are changing everyone > anyway. Or so they say. I personally didn't like the 'new' look so I > switched back. When they switch me to the new version I'll probably > be just fine, I just don't like most changes until I get used to them. > So just so you know, if you switch now, you can switch back for a > while. > > melissa robards > > On Sat, Nov 12, 2011 at 7:36 AM, Uptha Creek <mpm1944@gmail.com> wrote: > > Down in the lower right hand corner there appears a box "switch to the > new > > look". I haven't a clue as to what that is and don't want to get into > > something I may have trouble getting out of. > > Can someone explain what that "new look" is? > > Thanks again. > > Maxine > > > > > > > ******************** > > Gen-Newbie's website: > > http://www.rootsweb.com/~newbie/ > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > GEN-NEWBIE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Just had to add this comment about clothes. My husbands grandmother was married in 1879 and some of her pictures show her with a black dress (usual ladies only had one) and a lace collar (Hand crocheted). I have the picture but I also have the collar that she wore for this particular picture. Rather remarkable. ellen dating photos it could be interesting if you found out your female > ancestors were wearing a "Princess Peggy" dress: >

Does anyone have the above captioned book who would do a lookup for me? Thanks, Pam

Maxine, Google is changing the appearance of gmail. You can opt in to change 'now', or you can change later. 'Later' they are changing everyone anyway. Or so they say. I personally didn't like the 'new' look so I switched back. When they switch me to the new version I'll probably be just fine, I just don't like most changes until I get used to them. So just so you know, if you switch now, you can switch back for a while. melissa robards On Sat, Nov 12, 2011 at 7:36 AM, Uptha Creek <mpm1944@gmail.com> wrote: > Down in the lower right hand corner there appears a box "switch to the new > look".  I haven't a clue as to what that is and don't want to get into > something I may have trouble getting out of. > Can someone explain what that "new look" is? > Thanks again. > Maxine > >

In dating photos it could be interesting if you found out your female ancestors were wearing a "Princess Peggy" dress: http://possumjimandelizabeth.com/NewFiles/collect_peggy.html Google the name "Princess Peggy dresses", much more on the net. Shari

Down in the lower right hand corner there appears a box "switch to the new look". I haven't a clue as to what that is and don't want to get into something I may have trouble getting out of. Can someone explain what that "new look" is? Thanks again. Maxine

This came to me in an email and I wanted to share it with as many people as possible. Something to think about anyway.... Good Stuff! Christmas 2011 -- Birth of a New Tradition As the holidays approach, the giant Asian factories are kicking into high gear to provide Americans with monstrous piles of cheaply produced goods -- merchandise that has been produced at the expense of American labor. This year will be different. This year Americans will give the gift of genuine concern for other Americans. There is no longer an excuse ......that, at gift giving time, nothing can be found that is produced by American hands. Yes there is! It's time to think outside the box, people. Who says a gift needs to fit in a shirt box, wrapped in Chinese produced wrapping paper? Everyone -- yes EVERYONE gets their hair cut. How about gift certificates from your local American hair salon or barber? Gym membership? It's appropriate for all ages who are thinking about some health improvement. Who wouldn't appreciate getting their car detailed? Small, American owned detail shops and car washes would love to sell you a gift certificate or a book of gift certificates. Are you one of those extravagant givers who think nothing of plonking down the Benjamines on a Chinese made flat-screen? Perhaps that grateful gift receiver would like his driveway sealed, or lawn mowed for the summer, or driveway plowed all winter, or games at the local golf course. There are a bazillion owner-run restaurants -- all offering gift certificates. And, if your intended isn't the fancy eatery sort, what about a half dozen breakfasts at the local breakfast joint. Remember, folks this isn't about big National chains -- this is about supporting your home town Americans with their financial lives on the line to keep their doors open. How many people couldn't use an oil change for their car, truck or motorcycle, done at a shop run by the American working guy? Thinking about a heartfelt gift for mom? Mom would LOVE the services of a local cleaning lady for a day. My computer could use a tune-up, and I KNOW I can find some young guy who is struggling to get his repair business up and running. OK, you were looking for something more personal. Local crafts people spin their own wool and knit them into scarves. They make jewelry, and pottery and beautiful wooden boxes. Plan your holiday outings at local, owner operated restaurants and leave your server a nice tip. And, how about going out to see a play or ballet at your hometown theatre. Musicians need love too, so find a venue showcasing local bands. Honestly, people, do you REALLY need to buy another ten thousand Chinese lights for the house? When you buy a five dollar string of light, about fifty cents stays in the community. If you have those kinds of bucks to burn, leave the mailman, trash guy or babysitter a nice BIG tip. You see, Christmas is no longer about draining American pockets so that China can build another glittering city. Christmas is now about caring about US, encouraging American small businesses to keep plugging away to follow their dreams. And, when we care about other Americans, we care about our communities, and the benefits come back to us in ways we couldn't imagine. THIS is the new American Christmas. Spread the Christmas cheer!

A heartfelt thanks to all the veterans. Your service is truly appreciated. Connie (daughter, sister, aunt, niece and cousin of veterans, some deceased, some not)

Hi Gang, May I answer all the questions here at once as each is connected to the other, to the laptop. 1.start with a basic service of phone co. 2.then add a router, a 5 port is plenty, as it splits the phone signal for multi computer use within that area. each p/c will not have interference of anothers use, 3. the Magic Jack Plus is for wireless use, but is plugged into the router not the laptop, the orginal MJ required a p/c to function and kept the p/c tied up..and on. 4. from the router i will be plugging in a wirelss USB port. this allows me to wander the house with the laptop while in use. Now if this works, it will be a miracle! believe me. ~ Linda ~ Willow Creek,CA.

November 11, 1918, was the signing of the Armistice of WW I, this is why we have Veterans Day. WW I was the bloodist wars of its time. I doubt now, if we have any veterans of that War, amoung us. I hope the list is relaxed for the guys to remember why they fought so hard...or so long. They , now being in their 90's...(b:1900), perhaps a few remain alive in Europe or other areas of the World. I worked in a Veterans Geratric Hospital most of my adult life, the stories I was told, made me wonder what kind of world we live in then, haven't had a change of mind since then, it just gets crazier with each generation, over crowding is the big culpirt. Tomorrow, take a Veteran to Lunch and or Dinner and tell them thank you for your freedom. ~ Linda ~ Willow Creek,CA.

Today marks the 236th anniversary of the United States Marine Corps. A BIG thank you to all who are or have servered in honor of your country. You do us proud. ~ Linda ~ Willow Creek,CA.

Maxine, I never could remember all that without a cheat sheet lying around, which of course is lost, lying somewhere under the Clinton strata on my desk. I can remember the character map, though. Woody ============= mpm1944@gmail.com writes: Like: Ø ? I did: num lock, hold down ALT key & press 0216. Maxine On Thu, Nov 10, 2011 at 11:44 AM, Pam <genealogykid@cox.net> wrote: > Does anyone know of a font that will show zeros with a slash through them? > > Thanks, > > Pam > > ******************** >

Well I did find a good official Naval Site for the history of the various ships. Now I wonder how any of them were still on the McCawley's muster rolls in March 1943 as the McCawley was sunk in February 1943. I checked the ranks and they all refer to Carpenter's Mate and that was his major duty for the majority of his career. The other had to do with fire control. Next I need to find Muster Rolls for the Korean War. Marilyn On Thu, Nov 10, 2011 at 7:59 PM, marilyn E B <marilyneb@gmail.com> wrote: > Thank you so much. I think for once I have found him. It is likely he did > enlist in Nashville. The uncles in the Army are shown as enlisting at Ft. > Oglethorpe, Georgia. I need to see if I can find any information concerning > the Dixie, as that may have been the ship that was either destroyed or > damaged. I know grandma received an MIA telegram at least once. > > You are always so great about helping all of us with our searches. > > Marilyn > > > On Thu, Nov 10, 2011 at 6:31 PM, Kith-n-Kin <Kith-n-Kin@cox.net> wrote: > >> Marilyn >> >> There are, in fact, eight. >> >> Edgar Ellison Garrett, Mccawley, 30 Sep 1942 >> Edgar Ellison Garrett, Mccawley, 31 Dec 1942 >> Edgar Ellison Garrett, Mccawley, 31 Dec 1942 >> Edgar Ellison Garrett, Mccawley, 31 Mar 1943 >> Edgar Ellison Garrett, President Adams, 30 Sep 1943 >> Edgar Ellison Garrett, President Adams, APA 19, 31 Dec 1943 >> Edgar Ellison Garrett, Dixie, AD 14, 30 Apr 1945 >> Edgar Ellison Garrett, Dixie, AD 14, 30 Apr 1945 >> >> On the McCauley, there were three Garretts: SK2c Charles Garvis, enlisted >> 21 >> May 1940, reported on board 1/15/1941, CM3c Edgar Ellison, enlisted 4 Jan >> 1941, received on board 8/16/1942 and OffCklc James Grandison, enlisted 26 >> Sep 1940, received on board 10/10/1940. >> >> The next muster, 31 Dec 1942, adds that Edgar enlisted from Nashville, >> Tenn, >> James Grandison from Portsmouth, VA. Charles Garvis is no longer aboard. >> >> Charles shows up on the next muster, again 31 Dec, which has the same >> information, except for the rates. Charles Garvis is SK2c, Edgar Ellison >> CM2c, and James Grandison is OCC(AA) >> >> Well, well, the next muster, 31 March of 1943, Charles Garvis is SK1c, >> Edgar >> Ellison is CM2c, and a new Garrett, Jack Perry, S.2c.V6, enlisted 17 Sept >> 1942, reported 3/31/1943. >> >> Edgar next goes to the President Adams. The others do not. >> He reported to the vessel 15 July 1943. Rate still MC2c. >> The next muster, 31 December 1943, Edgar is promoted to CM1c. >> >> On the Dixie, 30 Apr 1945, has no further information, just that he was >> aboard on the date of sailing. >> >> Unfortunately, these muster rolls do not include the interesting >> information >> as to where the ships were at the time, you'd have to go to the individual >> record for that, I would guess. >> >> I googled USS President Adams apa 19 and came up with quite a few hits, >> including this one: >> >> http://www.hullnumber.com/APA-19 >> >> and this one >> >> http://www.ww2troopships.com/ships/p/presidentadams/default.htm which >> includes: >> >> "1943 >> >> Organized resistance on Guadalcanal ceased on 9 February but the campaign >> for the Solomons was not over. President Adams, redesignated APA-19 >> (effective 1 February), continued to carry men and equipment to and from >> the >> embattled islands of the south Pacific, escaping serious damage from >> numerous Japanese air attacks. During March and April she trained assault >> troops in New Zealand then transported men and materiel from there, and >> from >> Australia, to Guadalcanal, whence she steamed with Army forces for >> Rendova. >> Landing those troops on 30 June, she took on survivors from McCawley on 1 >> July and sailed to Noumea. From New Caledonia, President Adams returned to >> New Zealand, underwent an abbreviated overhaul, then resumed transporting >> men and equipment to the Solomons and training assault troops for >> amphibious >> operations - this time for Bougainville. On 1 November, after bombarding >> the >> beaches at Torokina Point, she landed the 1st Battalion, 3rd Marines, at >> Empress Augusta Bay. During the next six months, President Adams returned >> to >> Bougainville three times with reinforcements; carried Army Engineers to >> Emirau; transported two groups of Army reinforcements to Cape Gloucester >> on >> New Britain; and then prepared for action in the Marianas." >> >> Good luck with your searching. >> >> Pat >> In Tucson >> >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: gen-newbie-bounces@rootsweb.com >> [mailto:gen-newbie-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of marilyn E B >> Sent: Thursday, November 10, 2011 3:22 PM >> To: gen-newbie; Genealogy-Computers-Chat; Internet Genealogy >> Subject: [GN] Edgar Ellison Garrett 1918-1990 >> >> Could SKS check the Navy Muster Rolls (World War 2) for Edgar Ellison >> Garrett, born 1918 Fentress County, TN. >> >> I no longer have an Ancestry Subscription but when I ran a search today I >> got 8 hits but I can not check to make sure this is my uncle. I know he >> served from around 1940 to 1960. I would like more information but Navy >> information is hard to find. >> >> TIA >> >> Marilyn >> >> -- >> "If you don't get outside every day, even for a minute, you have not >> appreciated what God has done. It makes you grateful for our surroundings, >> and it starts your day differently." >> >> Johnny Cash >> >> ******************** >> >> Gen-Newbie's website: >> >> http://www.rootsweb.com/~newbie/ >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> GEN-NEWBIE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> >> >> ******************** >> >> Gen-Newbie's website: >> >> http://www.rootsweb.com/~newbie/ >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> GEN-NEWBIE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > > > > -- > "If you don't get outside every day, even for a minute, you have not > appreciated what God has done. It makes you grateful for our surroundings, > and it starts your day differently." > > Johnny Cash > > > -- "If you don't get outside every day, even for a minute, you have not appreciated what God has done. It makes you grateful for our surroundings, and it starts your day differently." Johnny Cash

Thank you so much. I think for once I have found him. It is likely he did enlist in Nashville. The uncles in the Army are shown as enlisting at Ft. Oglethorpe, Georgia. I need to see if I can find any information concerning the Dixie, as that may have been the ship that was either destroyed or damaged. I know grandma received an MIA telegram at least once. You are always so great about helping all of us with our searches. Marilyn On Thu, Nov 10, 2011 at 6:31 PM, Kith-n-Kin <Kith-n-Kin@cox.net> wrote: > Marilyn > > There are, in fact, eight. > > Edgar Ellison Garrett, Mccawley, 30 Sep 1942 > Edgar Ellison Garrett, Mccawley, 31 Dec 1942 > Edgar Ellison Garrett, Mccawley, 31 Dec 1942 > Edgar Ellison Garrett, Mccawley, 31 Mar 1943 > Edgar Ellison Garrett, President Adams, 30 Sep 1943 > Edgar Ellison Garrett, President Adams, APA 19, 31 Dec 1943 > Edgar Ellison Garrett, Dixie, AD 14, 30 Apr 1945 > Edgar Ellison Garrett, Dixie, AD 14, 30 Apr 1945 > > On the McCauley, there were three Garretts: SK2c Charles Garvis, enlisted > 21 > May 1940, reported on board 1/15/1941, CM3c Edgar Ellison, enlisted 4 Jan > 1941, received on board 8/16/1942 and OffCklc James Grandison, enlisted 26 > Sep 1940, received on board 10/10/1940. > > The next muster, 31 Dec 1942, adds that Edgar enlisted from Nashville, > Tenn, > James Grandison from Portsmouth, VA. Charles Garvis is no longer aboard. > > Charles shows up on the next muster, again 31 Dec, which has the same > information, except for the rates. Charles Garvis is SK2c, Edgar Ellison > CM2c, and James Grandison is OCC(AA) > > Well, well, the next muster, 31 March of 1943, Charles Garvis is SK1c, > Edgar > Ellison is CM2c, and a new Garrett, Jack Perry, S.2c.V6, enlisted 17 Sept > 1942, reported 3/31/1943. > > Edgar next goes to the President Adams. The others do not. > He reported to the vessel 15 July 1943. Rate still MC2c. > The next muster, 31 December 1943, Edgar is promoted to CM1c. > > On the Dixie, 30 Apr 1945, has no further information, just that he was > aboard on the date of sailing. > > Unfortunately, these muster rolls do not include the interesting > information > as to where the ships were at the time, you'd have to go to the individual > record for that, I would guess. > > I googled USS President Adams apa 19 and came up with quite a few hits, > including this one: > > http://www.hullnumber.com/APA-19 > > and this one > > http://www.ww2troopships.com/ships/p/presidentadams/default.htm which > includes: > > "1943 > > Organized resistance on Guadalcanal ceased on 9 February but the campaign > for the Solomons was not over. President Adams, redesignated APA-19 > (effective 1 February), continued to carry men and equipment to and from > the > embattled islands of the south Pacific, escaping serious damage from > numerous Japanese air attacks. During March and April she trained assault > troops in New Zealand then transported men and materiel from there, and > from > Australia, to Guadalcanal, whence she steamed with Army forces for Rendova. > Landing those troops on 30 June, she took on survivors from McCawley on 1 > July and sailed to Noumea. From New Caledonia, President Adams returned to > New Zealand, underwent an abbreviated overhaul, then resumed transporting > men and equipment to the Solomons and training assault troops for > amphibious > operations - this time for Bougainville. On 1 November, after bombarding > the > beaches at Torokina Point, she landed the 1st Battalion, 3rd Marines, at > Empress Augusta Bay. During the next six months, President Adams returned > to > Bougainville three times with reinforcements; carried Army Engineers to > Emirau; transported two groups of Army reinforcements to Cape Gloucester on > New Britain; and then prepared for action in the Marianas." > > Good luck with your searching. > > Pat > In Tucson > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: gen-newbie-bounces@rootsweb.com > [mailto:gen-newbie-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of marilyn E B > Sent: Thursday, November 10, 2011 3:22 PM > To: gen-newbie; Genealogy-Computers-Chat; Internet Genealogy > Subject: [GN] Edgar Ellison Garrett 1918-1990 > > Could SKS check the Navy Muster Rolls (World War 2) for Edgar Ellison > Garrett, born 1918 Fentress County, TN. > > I no longer have an Ancestry Subscription but when I ran a search today I > got 8 hits but I can not check to make sure this is my uncle. I know he > served from around 1940 to 1960. I would like more information but Navy > information is hard to find. > > TIA > > Marilyn > > -- > "If you don't get outside every day, even for a minute, you have not > appreciated what God has done. It makes you grateful for our surroundings, > and it starts your day differently." > > Johnny Cash > > ******************** > > Gen-Newbie's website: > > http://www.rootsweb.com/~newbie/ > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > GEN-NEWBIE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > ******************** > > Gen-Newbie's website: > > http://www.rootsweb.com/~newbie/ > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > GEN-NEWBIE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > -- "If you don't get outside every day, even for a minute, you have not appreciated what God has done. It makes you grateful for our surroundings, and it starts your day differently." Johnny Cash

I 'do' have 4 cheat sheets. (grin). I could scan & send if you would like. On Thu, Nov 10, 2011 at 7:40 PM, <BogusWoody@aol.com> wrote: > Maxine, > I never could remember all that without a cheat sheet lying around, which > of course is lost, lying somewhere under the Clinton strata on my desk. I > can remember the character map, though. > > Woody > > ============= > mpm1944@gmail.com writes: > Like: Ø ? I did: num lock, hold down ALT key & press 0216. > Maxine > > On Thu, Nov 10, 2011 at 11:44 AM, Pam <genealogykid@cox.net> wrote: > > > Does anyone know of a font that will show zeros with a slash through > them? > > > > Thanks, > > > > Pam > > > > ******************** > > > > > > ******************** > > Gen-Newbie's website: > > http://www.rootsweb.com/~newbie/ > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > GEN-NEWBIE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >