Yes, I could not find a box to check for leave a message in Gmail, either. It may be only on the POP options?? Jim, would you tell us just how to get there? Thanks. Joy On 1/26/2013 10:26 AM, Yvonne Strong wrote: > Thanks Jim, > > I looked and haven't been able to find a box with "leaves a copy of the > message in g-mail." When I first set up g-mail it wouldn't let me POP > to Thunderbird - It IMAP'd instead. I will go back and take a long hard > look and see if I have missed leaving a copy of the message in g-mail. > > I have turned off the Auto-Expunge but wasn't on my computer yesterday > so I am not sure if it has solved the problem or not. Sure hope so. > > I do appreciate you willingness to always jump in and help - thanks. > > Yvonne >

Hi Wayne, I was surprised when the box popped up that informed me that RR was not secure and had to check a box that stated I understood it was not secure. To be honest I am not sure about these g-mail problems I am having. There is a good chance that I haven't set up all the instructions correctly. If I keep having problems I am going to cancel the g-mail account and have to change my email - it's a darn nuisance! Hey, thanks! Yvonne __________________________________________________________________________________ On 1/24/2013 9:57 PM, Wayne Jones wrote: > I use Thunderbird on one of my RR accounts with no problem. I keep > Thunderbird up to date -- not sure what version I have and can't check at > the moment because it is on my laptop I have NEVER gotten anything to tell > me it is insecure. > > Aloha > Wayne, NH6K > >

Let me know if all goes well. In doing all this, I selected a setting that turned off the highlighting of new emails that came into Tbird, but I am not sure just what one it was. I messed around and got the highlighting back, but am not sure what one did the trick. Heck a Doodle!!! Hope that did not happen for you. :-) No, I have not found my deleted messages. Joy On 1/26/2013 10:21 AM, Yvonne Strong wrote: > Good Morning Joy, > > I us IMAP as well. Followed your instructions and reset my internet > g-mail account. Did you find your deleted emails? > > Sure hope this works. Hey go for "Heck a Doodle." It's a great saying. > I use it once in awhile myself. > > Keep posted. Now, I am going into Thunderbird and see if I can figure > out if I have TB's setting correct. > > Sure appreciate your help. > > Yvonne

Thanks Jim, I looked and haven't been able to find a box with "leaves a copy of the message in g-mail." When I first set up g-mail it wouldn't let me POP to Thunderbird - It IMAP'd instead. I will go back and take a long hard look and see if I have missed leaving a copy of the message in g-mail. I have turned off the Auto-Expunge but wasn't on my computer yesterday so I am not sure if it has solved the problem or not. Sure hope so. I do appreciate you willingness to always jump in and help - thanks. Yvonne _____________________________________________________________________________________ On 1/25/2013 11:19 AM, JIM HOPE wrote: > Check your settings in gmail and make sure the box is checked that > leaves a copy of the message in gmail when POP'd to your T'bird email > program. Once the email has left gmail without this box being checked it > is gone forever from gmail. > > >

Good Morning Joy, I us IMAP as well. Followed your instructions and reset my internet g-mail account. Did you find your deleted emails? Sure hope this works. Hey go for "Heck a Doodle." It's a great saying. I use it once in awhile myself. Keep posted. Now, I am going into Thunderbird and see if I can figure out if I have TB's setting correct. Sure appreciate your help. Yvonne ____________________________________________________________________________________ On 1/25/2013 11:19 AM, JIM HOPE wrote: > Check your settings in gmail and make sure the box is checked that > leaves a copy of the message in gmail when POP'd to your T'bird email > program. Once the email has left gmail without this box being checked it > is gone forever from gmail. > ______________________________________________________________________________________ > > On 25/01/2013 2:12 PM, Joy Gulden wrote: >> Yvonne -- >> >> I checked my settings under Gmail in Thunderbird and I do not find >> anything that would delete emails in both places. >> >> BUT---- >> When I go to Gmail on the web I did find the problem, I think -- MAYBE. >> :-) >> >> Open your Gmail account on the internet >> To the right of your Gmail screen, shows an icon for settings (like a >> lug nut?) >> Click on it and then click on settings in that list >> At the top are different links >> Click on the Forwarding and POP/IMAP link >> I use the IMAP, so under that section is an option: >> When I mark a message in IMAP as deleted: >> It had the Auto-Expunge on - Immediately update the server (Default) >> >> I changed it to Auto-Expunge off - Wait for the client to update the >> server. Now, since I do not use the POP, I cannot see the options for >> that, but if you use POP, then check and see if there is a similar option. >> >> I also find in IMAP >> When a message is marked as deleted and expunged from the last visible >> IMAP folder: >> the option is to Archive the message (default). >> >> Hope I have written all these things correctly. I have a tendency to go >> to fast sometimes. >> >> I am going to check that and see if I can find the ones that were >> deleted before. Will let you know what happens with my settings. >> By the way - I like the Heck a doodle saying. I may use it. Joy >> ________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________ >> On 1/24/2013 9:19 PM, Yvonne Strong wrote: >>> Hi Joy, >>> >>> Well, I guess "Too Bad" - it sure is. I would think maybe that >>> something that you and I are doing is just not quite correct here. I >>> wonder if it has something to do with Account Settings? I set up RR >>> again tonight. But I hesitate to use it as my default email - >>> Thunderbird tells me it is not secure - something to do with encryption. >>> >>> This has not been the computer month for me. Two crashes with my old >>> computer and a bad technician plus a new computer. Oh "Heck a Doodle" >>> as my auntie used to say. >>> >>> Let me know how you come out. >>> >>> Yvonne >>> ____________________________________________________________________________________ >>> On 1/24/2013 9:08 PM, Joy Gulden wrote: >>>> When I deleted emails in Thunderbird, thinking they would remain on the >>>> Gmail website, I lost them all in both places. So, I guess if you >>>> delete them in either place, it looks as if you will lose them in both. >>>> Too bad!! Joy >>>> >> ******************** >> >>

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Check your settings in gmail and make sure the box is checked that leaves a copy of the message in gmail when POP'd to your T'bird email program. Once the email has left gmail without this box being checked it is gone forever from gmail. On 25/01/2013 2:12 PM, Joy Gulden wrote: > Yvonne -- > > I checked my settings under Gmail in Thunderbird and I do not find > anything that would delete emails in both places. > > BUT---- > When I go to Gmail on the web I did find the problem, I think -- MAYBE. > :-) > > Open your Gmail account on the internet > To the right of your Gmail screen, shows an icon for settings (like a > lug nut?) > Click on it and then click on settings in that list > At the top are different links > Click on the Forwarding and POP/IMAP link > I use the IMAP, so under that section is an option: > When I mark a message in IMAP as deleted: > It had the Auto-Expunge on - Immediately update the server (Default) > > I changed it to Auto-Expunge off - Wait for the client to update the > server. Now, since I do not use the POP, I cannot see the options for > that, but if you use POP, then check and see if there is a similar option. > > I also find in IMAP > When a message is marked as deleted and expunged from the last visible > IMAP folder: > the option is to Archive the message (default). > > Hope I have written all these things correctly. I have a tendency to go > to fast sometimes. > > I am going to check that and see if I can find the ones that were > deleted before. Will let you know what happens with my settings. > By the way - I like the Heck a doodle saying. I may use it. Joy > > On 1/24/2013 9:19 PM, Yvonne Strong wrote: >> Hi Joy, >> >> Well, I guess "Too Bad" - it sure is. I would think maybe that >> something that you and I are doing is just not quite correct here. I >> wonder if it has something to do with Account Settings? I set up RR >> again tonight. But I hesitate to use it as my default email - >> Thunderbird tells me it is not secure - something to do with encryption. >> >> This has not been the computer month for me. Two crashes with my old >> computer and a bad technician plus a new computer. Oh "Heck a Doodle" >> as my auntie used to say. >> >> Let me know how you come out. >> >> Yvonne >> ____________________________________________________________________________________ >> On 1/24/2013 9:08 PM, Joy Gulden wrote: >>> When I deleted emails in Thunderbird, thinking they would remain on the >>> Gmail website, I lost them all in both places. So, I guess if you >>> delete them in either place, it looks as if you will lose them in both. >>> Too bad!! Joy >>> > > ******************** > > Gen-Newbie's website: > > http://www.rootsweb.com/~newbie/ > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Cathy, I tried Avast a short while back and got the same thing, too many false warnings. I went back to AVG free. Toni ----- Original Message ----- I also deleted Java and MSE. I am having a problem with Avast and hopefully someone knows how I can fix it. Avast thinks that my FTM2012 program is a virus and won't let it load. Cathy Champion Fenton, MO 63026 (near St. Louis)

Just a thank you to Elaine for apprising us of the issues with MSE and Java. I deleted Java and MSE and went back to Avast. Kelly

Yvonne -- I checked my settings under Gmail in Thunderbird and I do not find anything that would delete emails in both places. BUT---- When I go to Gmail on the web I did find the problem, I think -- MAYBE. :-) Open your Gmail account on the internet To the right of your Gmail screen, shows an icon for settings (like a lug nut?) Click on it and then click on settings in that list At the top are different links Click on the Forwarding and POP/IMAP link I use the IMAP, so under that section is an option: When I mark a message in IMAP as deleted: It had the Auto-Expunge on - Immediately update the server (Default) I changed it to Auto-Expunge off - Wait for the client to update the server. Now, since I do not use the POP, I cannot see the options for that, but if you use POP, then check and see if there is a similar option. I also find in IMAP When a message is marked as deleted and expunged from the last visible IMAP folder: the option is to Archive the message (default). Hope I have written all these things correctly. I have a tendency to go to fast sometimes. I am going to check that and see if I can find the ones that were deleted before. Will let you know what happens with my settings. By the way - I like the Heck a doodle saying. I may use it. Joy On 1/24/2013 9:19 PM, Yvonne Strong wrote: > Hi Joy, > > Well, I guess "Too Bad" - it sure is. I would think maybe that > something that you and I are doing is just not quite correct here. I > wonder if it has something to do with Account Settings? I set up RR > again tonight. But I hesitate to use it as my default email - > Thunderbird tells me it is not secure - something to do with encryption. > > This has not been the computer month for me. Two crashes with my old > computer and a bad technician plus a new computer. Oh "Heck a Doodle" > as my auntie used to say. > > Let me know how you come out. > > Yvonne > ____________________________________________________________________________________ > On 1/24/2013 9:08 PM, Joy Gulden wrote: >> When I deleted emails in Thunderbird, thinking they would remain on the >> Gmail website, I lost them all in both places. So, I guess if you >> delete them in either place, it looks as if you will lose them in both. >> Too bad!! Joy >>

I also deleted Java and MSE.  I am having a problem with Avast and hopefully someone knows how I can fix it.  Avast thinks that my FTM2012 program is a virus and won't let it load.   Cathy Champion     Fenton, MO 63026 (near St. Louis)   Make yourself familiar with the angels and behold them frequently in spirit; for without being seen, they are present with you.   - St. Francis De Sales Just a thank you to Elaine for apprising us of the issues with MSE and Java. I deleted Java and MSE and went back to Avast. Kelly

I am having the same problems. Maybe IE is having trouble?  regards, Gloria ----- Original Message ----- From: "Nelda Barnard" <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Sent: Thursday, January 17, 2013 12:56:20 PM Subject: [GN] IE problems My PC is slow as can be. I have Verizon MIFI for about two years and it have been fine untill the last month. when I start the PC  up it takes forever to get on line and I can hardley close it. Sometimes AVG will tell me Internet Exployer is using too much memory. My computer is a windows XP. I don't known anythiing more about comptuers than reading emails and searching the web for inf. Hope someome canhelp. Thanks                                                ******************** Gen-Newbie's website: http://www.rootsweb.com/~newbie/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Joy, Well, I guess "Too Bad" - it sure is. I would think maybe that something that you and I are doing is just not quite correct here. I wonder if it has something to do with Account Settings? I set up RR again tonight. But I hesitate to use it as my default email - Thunderbird tells me it is not secure - something to do with encryption. This has not been the computer month for me. Two crashes with my old computer and a bad technician plus a new computer. Oh "Heck a Doodle" as my auntie used to say. Let me know how you come out. Yvonne ____________________________________________________________________________________ On 1/24/2013 9:08 PM, Joy Gulden wrote: > When I deleted emails in Thunderbird, thinking they would remain on the > Gmail website, I lost them all in both places. So, I guess if you > delete them in either place, it looks as if you will lose them in both. > Too bad!! Joy > > On 1/24/2013 8:13 PM, Yvonne Strong wrote: >> I think I have a problem with my g-mail account. I went to the web and >> cleaned out my gmail account this evening. Just now when I opened >> Thunderbird to write an email all my emails disappeared - zap just like >> that! All is gone: No Inbox, Sent mail, All mail, or Trash. >> >> Under my local Folders I still have emails in Trash and in my individual >> folders that I have set up. Is this normal? Or! Do I have this G-mail >> and Thunderbird program email program set up incorrectly. >> >>

When I deleted emails in Thunderbird, thinking they would remain on the Gmail website, I lost them all in both places. So, I guess if you delete them in either place, it looks as if you will lose them in both. Too bad!! Joy On 1/24/2013 8:13 PM, Yvonne Strong wrote: > I think I have a problem with my g-mail account. I went to the web and > cleaned out my gmail account this evening. Just now when I opened > Thunderbird to write an email all my emails disappeared - zap just like > that! All is gone: No Inbox, Sent mail, All mail, or Trash. > > Under my local Folders I still have emails in Trash and in my individual > folders that I have set up. Is this normal? Or! Do I have this G-mail > and Thunderbird program email program set up incorrectly. > > I hate the thought that I am going to periodically lose all my emails. > > I would appreciate help. > > Thanks, > > Yvonne >

I think I have a problem with my g-mail account. I went to the web and cleaned out my gmail account this evening. Just now when I opened Thunderbird to write an email all my emails disappeared - zap just like that! All is gone: No Inbox, Sent mail, All mail, or Trash. Under my local Folders I still have emails in Trash and in my individual folders that I have set up. Is this normal? Or! Do I have this G-mail and Thunderbird program email program set up incorrectly. I hate the thought that I am going to periodically lose all my emails. I would appreciate help. Thanks, Yvonne

I use Thunderbird on one of my RR accounts with no problem. I keep Thunderbird up to date -- not sure what version I have and can't check at the moment because it is on my laptop I have NEVER gotten anything to tell me it is insecure. Aloha Wayne, NH6K -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Yvonne Strong Sent: Thursday, January 24, 2013 7:20 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [GN] G-Mail Hi Joy, Well, I guess "Too Bad" - it sure is. I would think maybe that something that you and I are doing is just not quite correct here. I wonder if it has something to do with Account Settings? I set up RR again tonight. But I hesitate to use it as my default email - Thunderbird tells me it is not secure - something to do with encryption. This has not been the computer month for me. Two crashes with my old computer and a bad technician plus a new computer. Oh "Heck a Doodle" as my auntie used to say. Let me know how you come out. Yvonne ____________________________________________________________________________ ________ On 1/24/2013 9:08 PM, Joy Gulden wrote: > When I deleted emails in Thunderbird, thinking they would remain on > the Gmail website, I lost them all in both places. So, I guess if you > delete them in either place, it looks as if you will lose them in both. > Too bad!! Joy > > On 1/24/2013 8:13 PM, Yvonne Strong wrote: >> I think I have a problem with my g-mail account. I went to the web >> and cleaned out my gmail account this evening. Just now when I >> opened Thunderbird to write an email all my emails disappeared - zap >> just like that! All is gone: No Inbox, Sent mail, All mail, or Trash. >> >> Under my local Folders I still have emails in Trash and in my >> individual folders that I have set up. Is this normal? Or! Do I >> have this G-mail and Thunderbird program email program set up incorrectly. >> >> ******************** Gen-Newbie's website: http://www.rootsweb.com/~newbie/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I've also deleted Java from my computer programs.  I'm currently running Avast! in place of MSE and I'm glad that I did.  On the first run it found that my FTM2012 program exe. was infected with a PUP virus.  I've been having problems with the program so I guess that explains it!  So now I'm going to check my external drive to see if any of those files are infected.  Then I guess I'll have to reinstall FTM and scan before I try it out. I have to blame this infection on MSE as I am very careful and run malware, spyware and antivirus programs every day.  MSE should have caught this.  It makes me sad that there are people out there who "enjoy" making all this extra work for computer users.   Cathy Champion     Fenton, MO 63026 (near St. Louis)   Make yourself familiar with the angels and behold them frequently in spirit; for without being seen, they are present with you.   - St. Francis De Sales ________________________________ From: ETM <[email protected]> To: Lists <[email protected]>; [email protected]; [email protected]; [email protected] Cc: Genealogy-Computers-Chat <[email protected]> Sent: Thu, January 24, 2013 4:11:32 AM Subject: [GN] JAVA I plan to follow the instructions at https://windowssecrets.com/newsletter/security-alert-remove-java-from-your-browsers/ Elaine ******************** Gen-Newbie's website: http://www.rootsweb.com/~newbie/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I plan to follow the instructions at https://windowssecrets.com/newsletter/security-alert-remove-java-from-your-browsers/ Elaine

Webroot came with my newest laptop. Unless it is ridiculously expensive, I think I will buy it after reviewing the ratings. Elaine It is not these well-fed long-haired men that I fear, but the pale and the hungry-looking. --Julius Caesar Hello Yvonne On Wednesday, January 23, 2013, you wrote > Thanks Elaine for the heads up on the AV > programs ratings. I am > surprised that there hasn't been more chatter about this subject. > After having a couple of crashes this month I > feel the need to let go of > Microsoft Security until it comes up to par. I > especially appreciate the > link on how the other AV programs fared in > these tests. Looks like AVG > is one of the top performers. However, I want > to do some thinking about > which program I am going to chose. Haven't made up my mind yet. > Yvonne > ______________________________________________________________________________________ > On 1/22/2013 6:22 PM, ETM wrote: >> http://www.av-test.org/en/tests/home-user/windows-7/novdec-2012/ >> >> Elaine >> >> >> ******************** >> >> > ******************** > Gen-Newbie's website: > http://www.rootsweb.com/~newbie/ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an > email to [email protected] with > the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the > subject and the body of the message

Thanks Elaine for the heads up on the AV programs ratings. I am surprised that there hasn't been more chatter about this subject. After having a couple of crashes this month I feel the need to let go of Microsoft Security until it comes up to par. I especially appreciate the link on how the other AV programs fared in these tests. Looks like AVG is one of the top performers. However, I want to do some thinking about which program I am going to chose. Haven't made up my mind yet. Yvonne ______________________________________________________________________________________ On 1/22/2013 6:22 PM, ETM wrote: > http://www.av-test.org/en/tests/home-user/windows-7/novdec-2012/ > > Elaine > > > ******************** > >