Good Morning Joyce, I have some Titus Connection through Alzenia Boatman.  I am very rusty on this line but if I remember correctly Thomas Titus married Alzenia Boatman in Nebraska. I will drag out my old notes and see what I have. I am not sure of the Thomas. I will get back. Yvonne Strong Arlington, WA

Thank you, Dee! I've signed up; here's to the continuation of Gen-Newbie!! ===== Kathleen Bowen Simons Lorton, Virginia *Do not mock a pain you haven't endured * On Mon, Jan 13, 2020 at 1:40 PM Dee Pavey via GEN-NEWBIE < gen-newbie@rootsweb.com> wrote: > Hi fellow list members! > > Hello fellow subscribers! > > As most of you know by now, Rootsweb lists will be shutting down as of > March 2nd. While this is > quite sad to those of us who have been utilizing this service for many > years, it isn't the end of the world. > > Many list owners are hoping to move their lists elsewhere. > > I have created a new list, on a new server, for this group. If you are > interested in > joining us on the new list please go to groups.io and sign up. > Then you can join our group here: > > https://groups.io/g/Gen-Newbie > > If you can’t figure this one out, don’t worry. I’ll be sending an invite > directly from groups.io in a few minutes. > > I have created an alternative Facebook Group, as well. If you are already > on Facebook, just go to this link and click on Join Group: > > https://www.facebook.com/groups/630601421097180/ > > If you have any questions or are having any trouble getting signed up for > either group please feel free to message me at pcmom@aol.com > > I hope to see you all on the new lists! > > Dee Pavey > List Admin > > _______________________________________________ > To Post to this list: > gen-newbie@rootsweb.com > > Contact the Listowner: > Dee Pavey > gen-newbie-owner@rootsweb.com > _______________________________________________ > Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref > Unsubscribe > https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/gen-newbie@rootsweb.com > Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: > https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 > Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog > RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb > community >

I received an 'invite' email to a Gen_Newbie group mail list via group-io and have accepted it. Yes, we are not very active, etc., but we are legacy listers and hate to give it up entirely. ((HUGS)), Kathleen ===== Kathleen Bowen Simons Lorton, Virginia *Do not mock a pain you haven't endured * On Mon, Jan 13, 2020 at 11:39 AM <john@jytangledweb.org> wrote: > Many groups are moving to groups.io . I have moved there for a number of > them already. Very similar to rootsweb. Hopefully, someone will be willing > to open the group there and let us know when to subscribe. Pretty much just > like rootsweb. > > John > > -----Original Message----- > From: Carolyn and Duncan Morrow <morrow-family@cox.net> > To: gen-newbie@rootsweb.com > Sent: Mon, 13 Jan 2020 11:33 > Subject: [GN]Re: Rootsweb Mail Lists being shut down effective 02 mar 2020 > > I hate this. I belong to several Rootsweb lists. Some were never very > active. Once upon a time, Gen-Newbie was a lively forum. I already miss my > friends and the lively voices here. Despite occasional hostilities, this > was > generally a home for help where the helpful and the helpless were equally > welcome. > > Still from the day Ancestry took over Rootsweb, it seemed inevitable. We > have had the privilege of free services, supported by a for-profit > business, > for longer than I thought possible. I'm grateful for that. > > I'm handicapped now because much of what Rootsweb lists did has migrated to > other places, especially Facebook. I've never had a Facebook account -- for > reasons that are entirely unrelated to genealogy (or computers). > > I hope any here who would like to stay in touch will let me know. I don't > promise to write often. I do promise to try to maintain a thread of > contact. > > Be well, my friends. > > Yours, > Duncan Morrow > morrow-family@cox.net > > -----Original Message----- > From: Kathleen B. Simons [mailto:kathleen.bowen@gmail.com] > Sent: Monday, January 13, 2020 10:57 AM > To: M Robards via <Gen-Newbie@rootsweb.com> > Subject: [GN]Rootsweb Mail Lists being shut down effective 02 mar 2020 > > FYI; it's all over other lists but haven't seen it mentioned here at Gen > newbie~ > https://blog.eogn.com/2020/01/07/rootsweb-mailing-lists-to-be-discontinued/ > > ===== > Kathleen Bowen Simons > Lorton, Virginia > > *Do not mock a pain you haven't endured * > > _______________________________________________ > To Post to this list: > gen-newbie@rootsweb.com > > Contact the Listowner: > Dee Pavey > gen-newbie-owner@rootsweb.com > _______________________________________________ > Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref Unsubscribe > https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/gen-newbie@rootsweb.com > Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: > https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog RootsWeb is > funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community > > _______________________________________________ > To Post to this list: > gen-newbie@rootsweb.com > > Contact the Listowner: > Dee Pavey > gen-newbie-owner@rootsweb.com > _______________________________________________ > Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref > Unsubscribe > https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/gen-newbie@rootsweb.com > Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: > https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 > Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog > RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb > community >

While this may be something some would like to do (get our ancestry online to save forever), please remember that the list is only moving to a new server. We aren’t “disappearing forever”. The last day for these lists at Rootsweb is March 2nd. Rootsweb, at this time, says the archives will remain searchable, though we don’t know in what format they will be stored. We don’t even know that they will always be free. (Since it’s all owned by Ancestry) Again…I hope everyone joins us at groups.io and facebook…at least one of the two. Have a wonderful evening! Dee List Admin

Hedges,Reeb, Daugherty, Junkin, Decker, Deinzer,Titus, etc Joyce Sent from my Verizon, Samsung Galaxy smartphone Get Outlook for Android<https://aka.ms/ghei36>

Yes, but getting our family info into the archives for gennewbie is a good idea. A couple of the other lists I'm on are doing the same. Susan Boise, Idaho, USA -----Original Message----- From: Dee Pavey via GEN-NEWBIE [mailto:gen-newbie@rootsweb.com] Sent: Monday, January 13, 2020 9:31 PM To: gen-newbie@rootsweb.com Cc: Dee Pavey Subject: [GN]Re: family lines: paternal -- Morrow, Thornburgh, Burlew, Rhoads; maternal -- Maines, Hoffman, Kinsella, Knapp Gen-Newbie is not disappearing! We are all moving over to groups.io and facebook….we’re keeping the group together! There are quite a few of us over there already! Join us! Groups: https://groups.io/g/Gen-Newbie Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/groups/630601421097180/ If you want to keep our group together, you need to join one or both of these groups. Groups.io is great for regular postings, but there is a limit on the number of pictures and files that can be posted. We will share those to facebook. Join us! Dee Pavey List Admin Gen-Newbie _______________________________________________ To Post to this list: gen-newbie@rootsweb.com Contact the Listowner: Dee Pavey gen-newbie-owner@rootsweb.com _______________________________________________ Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/gen-newbie@rootsweb.com Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community

Gen-Newbie is not disappearing! We are all moving over to groups.io and facebook….we’re keeping the group together! There are quite a few of us over there already! Join us! Groups: https://groups.io/g/Gen-Newbie Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/groups/630601421097180/ If you want to keep our group together, you need to join one or both of these groups. Groups.io is great for regular postings, but there is a limit on the number of pictures and files that can be posted. We will share those to facebook. Join us! Dee Pavey List Admin Gen-Newbie

Susan is right. If Gen-Newbie will soon disappear, this is the time for one last roundup of our family heritage. If you - or someone you know - connects to any of my lines, I would love to know. So far as I know, my ancestors all arrived in the U.S. well before the Civil War. "So far as I know" because my DNA (I've been tested at both FamilyTreeDNA and AncestryDNA) shows a bunch of unexplained Irish cousins - some of whom are still in Ireland. Thus, there are some questions about whether I may have a previously unknown Irish maternal grandfather or great-grandfather. I'm glad I don't have to bring this up with my mother. My mother's family on her mother's side were a Knapp clan rooted in Dutchess and Orange Counties, NY, long before the Revolutionary War. Her on-the-record father's family (Francis Maines) were in northern New Jersey in the early 19th century. His wife was a German, Margaret Hoffman. Her four "we-think" grandparents all lived in Paterson, NJ. Her maternal grandfather was still another Irishman, William Kinsella, born in New York City in 1838. He had one brother and one sister. Her mother's only sibling AND her only first cousin both died in childhood, so there could be no official close kinships from that family. Still, "unofficial" could mean some genetic Irish cousins. Or another Irishman fathered my mother or her father? Oops. It happens in the best of families. On my father's side, the "immigrant ancestor" Morrow arrived in Bucks Co., PA, from Ireland about 1802, then moved to Belmont Co., OH, after the War of 1812. His kids (he had 15, most of whom had kids of their own) spread all over the Midwest, from Ohio to Kansas to Indiana, Iowa, Missouri and Wisconsin. My paternal grandmother was a Thornburgh from Evansville, IN. My paternal great grandmothers were a Burlew from Mifflin Co., PA, and a Rhoads from Warrick Co., IN. Duncan Morrow morrow-family@cox.net

I need to clean this up one of these days, please bear with my funky info. Thanks. (sdsladegrossl at cableone.net) John1 Emmott was born on 16 Apr 1790 at Kildwick-In-Crav, Skipton, Yorkshire County, West Riding, England. He was baptized on 16 Sep 1790 at Skipton, Yorkshire County, West Riding, England. He married Sarah Boothman, daughter of Thomas Boothman and Mary Robinson, on 20 Oct 1821 at St. Peter, Downham, Lancashire County, England. He appeared on the census of 6 Jun 1841 at Parish of Whalley, Clitheroe, Lancashire County, England. He appeared on the census of 30 Mar 1851 at District 10b, Clitheroe, Lancashire County, England. He died on 2 May 1857 at Clitheroe, Lancashire County, England, at age 67. A. Mary Ann2 Emmett was born on 3 Oct 1822 at Downham, Lancashire County, England. She appeared on the census of 6 Jun 1841 at Parish of Whalley, Clitheroe, Lancashire County, England. She married John Ellis on 4 Jun 1853 at St. She died on 28 Jul 1903 at Ogden, Weber County, Utah, USA, at age 80. B. Harriet2 Emmett married James Riley. She was born on 29 Jan 1824 at Downham, Lancashire County, England. She was baptized on 18 Apr 1824 at Downham, Lancashire County, England. She appeared on the census of 6 Jun 1841 at Parish of Whalley, Clitheroe, Lancashire County, England. She died on 20 Jun 1903 at Ogden, Weber County, Utah, USA, at age 79. C. Martha2 Emmett was born on 29 Jun 1825 at Downham, Lancashire County, England. She was baptized on 24 Jul 1825 at Downham, Lancashire County, England. She appeared on the census of 6 Jun 1841 at Parish of Whalley, Clitheroe, Lancashire County, England. She died in 1880. D. Thomas2 Emmett was born on 10 Sep 1827 at Downham, Lancashire County, England. He was born on 19 Sep 1827 at Downham, Lancashire County, England. He was christened on 3 Oct 1827 at Clitheroe, Downham, Whalley, Lancashire County, England. He appeared on the census of 6 Jun 1841 at Parish of Whalley, Clitheroe, Lancashire County, England. He married Nancy Hitchon on 24 Feb 1850 at Possibly, Dowhnam, Lancashire County, Lancashire, England. He immigrated on 1 Jan 1851 from Merseyside, Liverpool, Lancashire County, England. He arrived on 25 Mar 1851 to New Orleans, Orleans County, Louisiana, USA. He died on 1 Feb 1894 at Ogden, Weber County, Utah Territory, North America, at age 66. E. James2 Emmett was born circa 1830 at Whalley, Lancashire County, England. He died on 19 May 1886. F. Sarah Ann2 Emmett was born on 23 Apr 1830 at Clitheroe, Downham, Lancashire County, England. She was christened on 7 Jul 1830 at Clitheroe, Downham, Lancashire County, England. She appeared on the census of 6 Jun 1841 at Parish of Whalley, Clitheroe, Lancashire County, England. She was baptized on 1 Dec 1847. She appeared on the census of 30 Mar 1851 at District 10b, Clitheroe, Lancashire County, England. She died on 1 Apr 1918 at 573 27th, St. Ward 2, Ogden, Weber County, Utah, USA, at age 87. She was buried on 4 Apr 1918 at Ogden City Cemetery, Ogden, Weber County, Utah, USA. (This is my Great Great Grandmother) G. Olive2 Emmett was born on 15 Dec 1832 at Parish of Whalley, Clitheroe, Downham, Lancashire County, England. She was christened on 8 Feb 1837 at Parish of Whalley, Clitheroe, Downham, Lancashire County, England. She appeared on the census of 6 Jun 1841 at Parish of Whalley, Clitheroe, Lancashire County, England. She appeared on the census of 30 Mar 1851 at District 10b, Clitheroe, Lancashire County, England. She married Henry Fielding circa 1852. She appeared on the census of 7 Apr 1861 at Old Hall, Clitheroe, Lancashire County, England. She died on 7 Jul 1861 at age 28. (no other info known at this time) 1. James3 Fielding was born circa 1854 at Clitheroe, Lancashire County, England. He appeared on the census of 7 Apr 1861 at Old Hall, Clitheroe, Lancashire County, England. (still looking for info) 2. Thomas3 Fielding was born circa 1856 at Hayfield, Derbyshire County, England. He appeared on the census of 7 Apr 1861 at Old Hall, Clitheroe, Lancashire County, England. (still looking for info) 3. John Almond3 Fielding was born circa 1858 at Hayfield, Derbyshire County, England. He appeared on the census of 7 Apr 1861 at Old Hall, Clitheroe, Lancashire County, England. (still looking for info) H. Andrew2 Emmett (5526) was born circa 1834 at Whalley, Lancashire County, England. He died on 11 Dec 1882 England. (no other info known at this time)

Hi fellow list members! Hello fellow subscribers! As most of you know by now, Rootsweb lists will be shutting down as of March 2nd. While this is quite sad to those of us who have been utilizing this service for many years, it isn't the end of the world. Many list owners are hoping to move their lists elsewhere. I have created a new list, on a new server, for this group. If you are interested in joining us on the new list please go to groups.io and sign up. Then you can join our group here: https://groups.io/g/Gen-Newbie If you can’t figure this one out, don’t worry. I’ll be sending an invite directly from groups.io in a few minutes. I have created an alternative Facebook Group, as well. If you are already on Facebook, just go to this link and click on Join Group: https://www.facebook.com/groups/630601421097180/ If you have any questions or are having any trouble getting signed up for either group please feel free to message me at pcmom@aol.com I hope to see you all on the new lists! Dee Pavey List Admin

Many groups are moving to groups.io . I have moved there for a number of them already. Very similar to rootsweb. Hopefully, someone will be willing to open the group there and let us know when to subscribe. Pretty much just like rootsweb. John -----Original Message----- From: Carolyn and Duncan Morrow <morrow-family@cox.net> To: gen-newbie@rootsweb.com Sent: Mon, 13 Jan 2020 11:33 Subject: [GN]Re: Rootsweb Mail Lists being shut down effective 02 mar 2020 I hate this. I belong to several Rootsweb lists. Some were never very active. Once upon a time, Gen-Newbie was a lively forum. I already miss my friends and the lively voices here. Despite occasional hostilities, this was generally a home for help where the helpful and the helpless were equally welcome. Still from the day Ancestry took over Rootsweb, it seemed inevitable. We have had the privilege of free services, supported by a for-profit business, for longer than I thought possible. I'm grateful for that. I'm handicapped now because much of what Rootsweb lists did has migrated to other places, especially Facebook. I've never had a Facebook account -- for reasons that are entirely unrelated to genealogy (or computers). I hope any here who would like to stay in touch will let me know. I don't promise to write often. I do promise to try to maintain a thread of contact. Be well, my friends. Yours, Duncan Morrow morrow-family@cox.net -----Original Message----- From: Kathleen B. Simons [mailto:kathleen.bowen@gmail.com] Sent: Monday, January 13, 2020 10:57 AM To: M Robards via <Gen-Newbie@rootsweb.com> Subject: [GN]Rootsweb Mail Lists being shut down effective 02 mar 2020 FYI; it's all over other lists but haven't seen it mentioned here at Gen newbie~ https://blog.eogn.com/2020/01/07/rootsweb-mailing-lists-to-be-discontinued/ ===== Kathleen Bowen Simons Lorton, Virginia *Do not mock a pain you haven't endured * _______________________________________________ To Post to this list: gen-newbie@rootsweb.com Contact the Listowner: Dee Pavey gen-newbie-owner@rootsweb.com _______________________________________________ Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/gen-newbie@rootsweb.com Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community _______________________________________________ To Post to this list: gen-newbie@rootsweb.com Contact the Listowner: Dee Pavey gen-newbie-owner@rootsweb.com _______________________________________________ Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/gen-newbie@rootsweb.com Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community

I hate this. I belong to several Rootsweb lists. Some were never very active. Once upon a time, Gen-Newbie was a lively forum. I already miss my friends and the lively voices here. Despite occasional hostilities, this was generally a home for help where the helpful and the helpless were equally welcome. Still from the day Ancestry took over Rootsweb, it seemed inevitable. We have had the privilege of free services, supported by a for-profit business, for longer than I thought possible. I'm grateful for that. I'm handicapped now because much of what Rootsweb lists did has migrated to other places, especially Facebook. I've never had a Facebook account -- for reasons that are entirely unrelated to genealogy (or computers). I hope any here who would like to stay in touch will let me know. I don't promise to write often. I do promise to try to maintain a thread of contact. Be well, my friends. Yours, Duncan Morrow morrow-family@cox.net -----Original Message----- From: Kathleen B. Simons [mailto:kathleen.bowen@gmail.com] Sent: Monday, January 13, 2020 10:57 AM To: M Robards via <Gen-Newbie@rootsweb.com> Subject: [GN]Rootsweb Mail Lists being shut down effective 02 mar 2020 FYI; it's all over other lists but haven't seen it mentioned here at Gen newbie~ https://blog.eogn.com/2020/01/07/rootsweb-mailing-lists-to-be-discontinued/ ===== Kathleen Bowen Simons Lorton, Virginia *Do not mock a pain you haven't endured * _______________________________________________ To Post to this list: gen-newbie@rootsweb.com Contact the Listowner: Dee Pavey gen-newbie-owner@rootsweb.com _______________________________________________ Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/gen-newbie@rootsweb.com Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community

FYI; it's all over other lists but haven't seen it mentioned here at Gen newbie~ https://blog.eogn.com/2020/01/07/rootsweb-mailing-lists-to-be-discontinued/ ===== Kathleen Bowen Simons Lorton, Virginia *Do not mock a pain you haven't endured *

This is a world wide catalog to help you find what library the book is at. When I was in California, I found a book at the University of Florida, they shipped it to me and ultimately I shopped it back, https://www.worldcat.org/ On Sat, Dec 28, 2019 at 12:21 PM Kith-n-Kin <Kith-n-Kin@cox.net> wrote: > Here's an alternate view. > You have found a reference to some information in a particular book (say, > in > a citation). > The book is not in a library near you. > Say I happen to live near a library that has that particular "family > history" book. I pay a "use fee" when I utilize the library. > (e.g., the Filson Library in Louisville, KY, there is a $10/day research > charge for non-members) > You ask me to look up a particular piece of information when I'm at the > library. > I do it, making a copy of the page with my cell-phone and sending the image > to you. > Or, maybe I copy down the "facts" and send them to you. > Stealing? Plagiarizing? > Most would call that "fair use." You cannot "steal" facts. You cannot > copyright "facts." You cannot plagiarize "facts." > Historically, librarians have done this for people since "forever." > Now, in the electronic world, this does not change. > What does change is the agreement "you" have, or "I" have, with a > particular > electronic "archive" such as Fold3. > If the "terms and conditions" prohibit such activity, then you are in > conflict with those, generally called "terms of service" or "TOS." > Fold3, now part of Ancestry.com, follows those conditions. > https://www.ancestry.com/cs/legal/termsandconditions?hideHeader=1 > > You should read it yourself, but what appears to be in conflict here is: > > "With respect to Ancestry Content, you agree: > To keep all copyright and other proprietary notices on any Ancestry Content > you download or print; and > Not to distribute, republish, or sell significant portions of any Ancestry > Content. > Public Domain Content: Some Ancestry Content may be in the public domain, > and yet also subject to restrictions on reuse. We refer to Ancestry Content > in the public domain as "Public Domain Content." You are free to use a > small > portion of individual photos and documents that are Public Domain Content, > but you must obtain our written permission to use more than a small portion > of these collections. If you have any questions about your use of Public > Domain Content, please contact us." > > Sounds to me like the "fair use doctrine" at work here, but I'm not a > lawyer > (nor do I play one on TV), so am merely providing this information from the > Ancestry public site. > > Pat Dunford > Tucson, Arizona > > -----Original Message----- > From: Michelle Snyder <msnyder34619@gmail.com> > Sent: Friday, December 27, 2019 4:10 PM > To: gen-newbie@rootsweb.com > Subject: [GN]Re: WWII Draft Cards (Was: Re: Anyone have a Fold 3 account?) > > I'm sorry but asking someone to use an account they have paid for on your > behalf is plagiarism/stealing > > > > > Absolute Happiness wrote: > > > Is anyone able to download something from Fold 3? Would appreciate a > > > record image of the information that I found on ancestry, which > > > says, "View Original Image on Fold3." Source Citation The National > > > Archives in St. Louis, Missouri; St. Louis, Missouri; WWII Draft > > > Registration Cards for Michigan, 10/16/1940-03/31/1947; Record > > > Group: Records of the Selective Service System, 147; Box: 924. > > > Thanks for any help, vanAZ > > > > _______________________________________________ > To Post to this list: > gen-newbie@rootsweb.com > > Contact the Listowner: > Dee Pavey > gen-newbie-owner@rootsweb.com > _______________________________________________ > Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref > Unsubscribe > https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/gen-newbie@rootsweb.com > Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: > https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 > Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog > RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb > community >

Here's an alternate view. You have found a reference to some information in a particular book (say, in a citation). The book is not in a library near you. Say I happen to live near a library that has that particular "family history" book. I pay a "use fee" when I utilize the library. (e.g., the Filson Library in Louisville, KY, there is a $10/day research charge for non-members) You ask me to look up a particular piece of information when I'm at the library. I do it, making a copy of the page with my cell-phone and sending the image to you. Or, maybe I copy down the "facts" and send them to you. Stealing? Plagiarizing? Most would call that "fair use." You cannot "steal" facts. You cannot copyright "facts." You cannot plagiarize "facts." Historically, librarians have done this for people since "forever." Now, in the electronic world, this does not change. What does change is the agreement "you" have, or "I" have, with a particular electronic "archive" such as Fold3. If the "terms and conditions" prohibit such activity, then you are in conflict with those, generally called "terms of service" or "TOS." Fold3, now part of Ancestry.com, follows those conditions. https://www.ancestry.com/cs/legal/termsandconditions?hideHeader=1 You should read it yourself, but what appears to be in conflict here is: "With respect to Ancestry Content, you agree: To keep all copyright and other proprietary notices on any Ancestry Content you download or print; and Not to distribute, republish, or sell significant portions of any Ancestry Content. Public Domain Content: Some Ancestry Content may be in the public domain, and yet also subject to restrictions on reuse. We refer to Ancestry Content in the public domain as "Public Domain Content." You are free to use a small portion of individual photos and documents that are Public Domain Content, but you must obtain our written permission to use more than a small portion of these collections. If you have any questions about your use of Public Domain Content, please contact us." Sounds to me like the "fair use doctrine" at work here, but I'm not a lawyer (nor do I play one on TV), so am merely providing this information from the Ancestry public site. Pat Dunford Tucson, Arizona -----Original Message----- From: Michelle Snyder <msnyder34619@gmail.com> Sent: Friday, December 27, 2019 4:10 PM To: gen-newbie@rootsweb.com Subject: [GN]Re: WWII Draft Cards (Was: Re: Anyone have a Fold 3 account?) I'm sorry but asking someone to use an account they have paid for on your behalf is plagiarism/stealing > > Absolute Happiness wrote: > > Is anyone able to download something from Fold 3? Would appreciate a > > record image of the information that I found on ancestry, which > > says, "View Original Image on Fold3." Source Citation The National > > Archives in St. Louis, Missouri; St. Louis, Missouri; WWII Draft > > Registration Cards for Michigan, 10/16/1940-03/31/1947; Record > > Group: Records of the Selective Service System, 147; Box: 924. > > Thanks for any help, vanAZ >

I'm sorry but asking someone to use an account they have paid for on your behalf is plagiarism/stealing On Fri, Dec 27, 2019 at 2:25 PM Joe <paperangels@gmail.com> wrote: > You might be able to find the record at FamilySearch. Try: > > https://www.militaryindexes.com/worldwartwo/ > > Look for the FamilySearch link in the WWII draft cards section near the top > of that page, then scroll down to the state listings where you will find > some FamilySearch WWII draft card links for some states. > > Happy searching. > > Regards, > Joe > > Absolute Happiness wrote: > > Is anyone able to download something from Fold 3? Would appreciate a > > record image of the information that I found on ancestry, which says, > > "View Original Image on Fold3." Source Citation The National Archives > > in St. Louis, Missouri; St. Louis, Missouri; WWII Draft Registration > > Cards for Michigan, 10/16/1940-03/31/1947; Record Group: Records of > > the Selective Service System, 147; Box: 924. Thanks for any help, > > vanAZ > > _______________________________________________ > To Post to this list: > gen-newbie@rootsweb.com > > Contact the Listowner: > Dee Pavey > gen-newbie-owner@rootsweb.com > _______________________________________________ > Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref > Unsubscribe > https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/gen-newbie@rootsweb.com > Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: > https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 > Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog > RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb > community >

The sad thing is Ancestry used to have these copies as a part of their membership fee. Another way to make money! Sue ---- Joe <paperangels@gmail.com> wrote: You might be able to find the record at FamilySearch. Try: https://www.militaryindexes.com/worldwartwo/ Look for the FamilySearch link in the WWII draft cards section near the top of that page, then scroll down to the state listings where you will find some FamilySearch WWII draft card links for some states. Happy searching. Regards, Joe Absolute Happiness wrote: > Is anyone able to download something from Fold 3? Would appreciate a > record image of the information that I found on ancestry, which says, > "View Original Image on Fold3." Source Citation The National Archives > in St. Louis, Missouri; St. Louis, Missouri; WWII Draft Registration > Cards for Michigan, 10/16/1940-03/31/1947; Record Group: Records of > the Selective Service System, 147; Box: 924. Thanks for any help, > vanAZ _______________________________________________ To Post to this list: gen-newbie@rootsweb.com Contact the Listowner: Dee Pavey gen-newbie-owner@rootsweb.com _______________________________________________ Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/gen-newbie@rootsweb.com Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community

You might be able to find the record at FamilySearch. Try: https://www.militaryindexes.com/worldwartwo/ Look for the FamilySearch link in the WWII draft cards section near the top of that page, then scroll down to the state listings where you will find some FamilySearch WWII draft card links for some states. Happy searching. Regards, Joe Absolute Happiness wrote: > Is anyone able to download something from Fold 3? Would appreciate a > record image of the information that I found on ancestry, which says, > "View Original Image on Fold3." Source Citation The National Archives > in St. Louis, Missouri; St. Louis, Missouri; WWII Draft Registration > Cards for Michigan, 10/16/1940-03/31/1947; Record Group: Records of > the Selective Service System, 147; Box: 924. Thanks for any help, > vanAZ

DO you want the whole box of them or one person in particular? If so who is the person? On Thu, Dec 26, 2019 at 5:05 PM Absolute Happiness < absolutehappiness@hotmail.com> wrote: > Is anyone able to download something from Fold 3? Would appreciate a > record image of the information that I found on ancestry, which says, "View > Original Image on Fold3." > Source Citation > The National Archives in St. Louis, Missouri; St. Louis, Missouri; WWII > Draft Registration Cards for Michigan, 10/16/1940-03/31/1947; Record Group: > Records of the Selective Service System, 147; Box: 924. > Thanks for any help, vanAZ > > _______________________________________________ > To Post to this list: > gen-newbie@rootsweb.com > > Contact the Listowner: > Dee Pavey > gen-newbie-owner@rootsweb.com > _______________________________________________ > Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref > Unsubscribe > https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/gen-newbie@rootsweb.com > Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: > https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 > Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog > RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb > community >

Is anyone able to download something from Fold 3? Would appreciate a record image of the information that I found on ancestry, which says, "View Original Image on Fold3." Source Citation The National Archives in St. Louis, Missouri; St. Louis, Missouri; WWII Draft Registration Cards for Michigan, 10/16/1940-03/31/1947; Record Group: Records of the Selective Service System, 147; Box: 924. Thanks for any help, vanAZ