Good day, I have a question about Roger Kelke who was father to Alice Kelke (wife of Robert Tirwhit) that I was hoping someone would be able to answer. Is this Roger Kelke the same person as the Roger Kelke who married ______ Leyburne (daughter of Henry Leyburne) and had a son William Kelke? They seem as though they would be the same age. There are also a number of fines where the Tirwhit's and the Kelke's are found together from around the same period. http://medievalgenealogy.org.uk/fines/search.php?s=1&surname=kelke&given=&place=&after=&before=&county=&finecase=&finefile=&finenumber= CP 25/1/144/150, number 5: (1395) Persons: William Kelke; Robert Tirwhit'; Nicholas Tournay; Thomas Ruston'; Joan Places: Magna Stepyng'; Frisby [Lincolnshire] CP 25/1/144/151, number 33: (1401) Persons: William Kelke; Richard Tirwhit; Robert Tirwhit; Walter de Flynton'; Thomas la Warre Places: Barnetby; Ketilby; Netilton' [Lincolnshire] CP 25/1/290/60, number 68: (1402-1403) Persons: Thomas Haweley; William Kelke; Robert Tirwhit; John Turnay; Roger de Bernardeston'; William Ingham; Margery Places: Bernetby; Kedyngton'; Bernardeston'; Kedyngton'; Bernardeston'; Dagenham; Berkyng'; Whetele; Dancastre; Baldirton' [Suffolk. Essex. Yorkshire] CP 25/1/144/153, number 7: (1409-1410) Persons: William Kelke; Robert Tirwhit; Nicholas Tournay; Stephen Burne; Alice Places: Magna Stepyng; Frysby [Lincolnshire] CP 25/1/145/158, number 23: (1435) Persons: Roger Kelke; Robert Feryby; Patrick Skypwyth'; Agnes Places: Frothyngham; Bekeby; Wraweby [Lincolnshire] CP 25/1/280/159, number 3: (1442) Persons: William Tirwhit; William Kelke; Thomas Tirwhit; William West; Thomas Kelke; Elizabeth Places: Beu[er]laco; Beu[er]laco; Beu[er]laci [Yorkshire] Any insight would be greatly appreciated. Thanks, Jordan Vandenberg.

Here are some more fines that include both the Tirwhit's and the Kelke's. The William Kelke appearing in the majority of them, I am guessing is William Kelke, son of Roger Kelke and _____ Leyburne, and the Robert Tirwhit is likely the Robert Tirwhit married to Alice Kelke. Does anyone know if this is correct? CP 25/1/290/59, number 34: (1395-1401) Persons: William Kelk; Robert Tyrwhyt'; John Ingelby; Ellen; Maud Wykes; Thomas de Welton'; William Wesci; Robert Crosse; John Pothowe; William Melton'; Thomas de Melton'; William Ricardson'; William Balcok; William Gardyner; Robert Haldenby; Walter Ake; William B Places: Bernetby; Melton'; Northferiby; Feriby; Hull' [Yorkshire] CP 25/1/279/150, number 1: (1403) Persons: William Kelk'; Hugh Ardern'; Richard Tirwhit; Robert Bret; Thomas de Sc'o Quintino; Agnes Places: Barnetby; Harpham; Harpham; Thirnome; Grauncemore; Burton' Annays; Kill'ome; Louthorp'; Kyngeston' sup[er] Hull' [Yorkshire] CP 25/1/144/150, number 23: (1396) Persons: William Kelk'; Thomas Tirwhit; Robert Tirwhit; Lawrence Bradley; Amy Places: Bernetby; Bytham; Amwyk' [Lincolnshire] CP 25/1/144/150, number 47: (1398) Persons: William Kelk'; Thomas Tirwhit'; Robert Tirwhit'; Thomas la Warre Places: Bernetby; Scalby [Lincolnshire] CP 25/1/279/150, number 23: (1404) Persons: William Kelk'; John Wanesford'; Robert Tirwhit; Thomas Coupeland'; Margaret Places: Bernetby; Gymlyng'; [B]ersewyk'; Leuen; Holdernesse [Yorkshire] CP 25/1/144/152, number 47: (1408) Persons: William Kelk; Nicholas Tournay; Roger Berneston'; William Tirwhit; Thomas Scardeburgh'; George Monboucher; Elizabeth Places: Thorp'; Bekeby [Lincolnshire] CP 25/1/144/153, number 32: (1411) Persons: William Kelk'; Nicholas Tournay; Richard [Tir?]whit; Walter Flynton'; John Hornse; Michael de la Pole; earl of Suffolk; Katherine Places: Herpeswell' [Lincolnshire] CP 25/1/144/154, number 4: (1413) Persons: William Kelk'; William Tirwhit; Richard Trippok; John Beseby; Richard Galbard'; John de Cotom'; Joan Places: Bernetby; Scamelsby; Dunston' [Lincolnshire] On Friday, June 9, 2017 at 11:14:06 PM UTC-4, Jordan Vandenberg wrote: > Good day, > > I have a question about Roger Kelke who was father to Alice Kelke (wife of Robert Tirwhit) that I was hoping someone would be able to answer. > Is this Roger Kelke the same person as the Roger Kelke who married ______ Leyburne (daughter of Henry Leyburne) and had a son William Kelke? > > They seem as though they would be the same age. There are also a number of fines where the Tirwhit's and the Kelke's are found together from around the same period. > > http://medievalgenealogy.org.uk/fines/search.php?s=1&surname=kelke&given=&place=&after=&before=&county=&finecase=&finefile=&finenumber= > > CP 25/1/144/150, number 5: (1395) > Persons: William Kelke; Robert Tirwhit'; Nicholas Tournay; Thomas Ruston'; Joan > Places: Magna Stepyng'; Frisby [Lincolnshire] > > CP 25/1/144/151, number 33: (1401) > Persons: William Kelke; Richard Tirwhit; Robert Tirwhit; Walter de Flynton'; Thomas la Warre > Places: Barnetby; Ketilby; Netilton' [Lincolnshire] > > CP 25/1/290/60, number 68: (1402-1403) > Persons: Thomas Haweley; William Kelke; Robert Tirwhit; John Turnay; Roger de Bernardeston'; William Ingham; Margery > Places: Bernetby; Kedyngton'; Bernardeston'; Kedyngton'; Bernardeston'; Dagenham; Berkyng'; Whetele; Dancastre; Baldirton' [Suffolk. Essex. Yorkshire] > > CP 25/1/144/153, number 7: (1409-1410) > Persons: William Kelke; Robert Tirwhit; Nicholas Tournay; Stephen Burne; Alice > Places: Magna Stepyng; Frysby [Lincolnshire] > > CP 25/1/145/158, number 23: (1435) > Persons: Roger Kelke; Robert Feryby; Patrick Skypwyth'; Agnes > Places: Frothyngham; Bekeby; Wraweby [Lincolnshire] > > CP 25/1/280/159, number 3: (1442) > Persons: William Tirwhit; William Kelke; Thomas Tirwhit; William West; Thomas Kelke; Elizabeth > Places: Beu[er]laco; Beu[er]laco; Beu[er]laci [Yorkshire] > > Any insight would be greatly appreciated. > Thanks, > Jordan Vandenberg.

On Friday, June 9, 2017 at 11:42:27 PM UTC-4, Jordan Vandenberg wrote: > Here are some more fines that include both the Tirwhit's and the Kelke's. > The William Kelke appearing in the majority of them, I am guessing is William Kelke, son of Roger Kelke and _____ Leyburne, and the Robert Tirwhit is likely the Robert Tirwhit married to Alice Kelke. Does anyone know if this is correct? > ... > > On Friday, June 9, 2017 at 11:14:06 PM UTC-4, Jordan Vandenberg wrote: > > Good day, > > > > I have a question about Roger Kelke who was father to Alice Kelke (wife of Robert Tirwhit) that I was hoping someone would be able to answer. > > Is this Roger Kelke the same person as the Roger Kelke who married ______ Leyburne (daughter of Henry Leyburne) and had a son William Kelke? > > > > They seem as though they would be the same age. There are also a number of fines where the Tirwhit's and the Kelke's are found together from around the same period. > > > > http://medievalgenealogy.org.uk/fines/search.php?s=1&surname=kelke&given=&place=&after=&before=&county=&finecase=&finefile=&finenumber= ... The Kelke pedigree at https://books.google.com/books?id=6-8xAQAAMAAJ&pg=PA555 has a Robert Tirwhit marrying a Kelke daughter (an Isabel) in a later generation. The pedigree shows Roger Kelke's granddaughter Isabella as the wife of Roger Barnardiston. Roger Barnardiston's son Thomas married Joan Vavasour, daughter of Henry Vavasour and Margaret Skipwith. I think Joan was born between 1407 and 1413. A Roger Kelke was born about 1349 according to his stated age as a witness in the following proof of age: http://www.british-history.ac.uk/inquis-post-mortem/vol19/pp234-250 William Kelke of Barnetby and his wife Margaret were married by 24 April 1390: http://medievalgenealogy.org.uk/fines/abstracts/CP_25_1_143_147.shtml#14 William and Margaret's son(?) William was married by 1406: http://medievalgenealogy.org.uk/fines/abstracts/CP_25_1_144_152.shtml#18