Hi Doug, Here are a few links and film numbers that might prove useful: > In the book, Columbus Myth: Did Men of Bristol reach America before Columbus? (1991): 112, we learn that Sir Hugh Wyche took on an apprentice named Robert Say in 1452, which Robert subsequently became a full member of the Mercers Company. Robert Say's 1452/3 apprenticeship: http://www.londonroll.org/event/?company=mrc&event_id=MCEB2515 Robert Say, Master, Mercer's Co., accepting an apprentice in 1479: http://www.londonroll.org/event/?company=mrc&event_id=MCEB2149 > "Probably the Ralph Say, citizen and grocer, with property in St Martin Pomeroy and St Swithin parishes. He left a will (no probate) of 28 November 1447 (Guildhall MS 9171/4, f. 264r). His widow Katherine appears among admissions before 1449 (20) and deaths for 1457 (53)." > > "Among deaths for 1457 (53). Presumably the Katherine Say, widow of Ralph Say, with property in St Antholin and St Lawrence Jewry, who appears among deaths before 1448 (25). She requested burial with her late husband in the church of St Antholin by her will of 29 October 1457, proved 15 March 1458 (Guildhall MS 9171/5, f. 240r)." END OF QUOTE. These Guildhall probate references correspond to the Commissary Court of London (London Division). They should both appear on FHL Microfilm 94093 in volumes 4 and 5 of the registered copy wills: https://familysearch.org/search/catalog/283866 Best, Nathan