Good day, Thanks Jan and Patrick for your insight and assistance on this. The pedigree found in Lincolnshire Pedigrees seems a bit of a mess. It looks to me that there may be an extra generation or two included within the area of focus (extra William Kelke at least). I found reference in the Discovery catalogue to a couple of Chancery proceedings that include reference to the Roger Kelke and William Kelke together. The first mentions an Em, late the wife of Roger Kelke, and William Kelke and Thomas Tirwhit as the said Roger's executors. Both the catalogue reference and the image are below. The second Chancery proceeding mentions a Roger Kelke esq. who was the grandson of Roger Kelke, the elder and William Kelk, gent., of Ludborough, and is in regards to the manor of Barnetby. I could not locate the image for the second record at the AALT site. The correct folder was there, but the number of the documents on the images is a mess and I could not find it. The link to the folder is below it's catalogue entry, if someone wants to see if they have better luck than me finding it. To me it appears the Roger Kelke, the elder referred to in the second proceeding and the Roger Kelke referred to as deceased are one and the same, and the same Roger Kelke who is subject of the thread. http://discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk/details/r/C7440230 http://aalt.law.uh.edu/AALT4/ChP/C1no17/C1no17%20pt%202/IMG_0334.htm Reference: C 1/17/240 Description: Short title: Kelk v Kelk. Plaintiffs: Em, late the wife of Roger Kelk. Defendants: William Kelk and Thomas Tyrwhit, executors of the said Roger. Subject: A third part of deceased's goods.. SFP Date: 1407-1456 Held by: The National Archives, Kew Legal status: Public Record(s) Closure status: Open Document, Open Description http://discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk/details/r/C7443211 http://aalt.law.uh.edu/AALT4/ChP/C1no29/C1no29nos%20301-549/index.htm Reference: C 1/29/508 Description: Short title: Kelk v Kelk. Plaintiffs: Roger Kelk, esq., grandson of Roger Kelk, the elder. Defendants: William Kelk, gent., of Ludborough (Ludburgh), feoffee of petitioner's grandfather. Subject: Manor of Barnetby. Lincolnshire Date: 1460-1465 Held by: The National Archives, Kew Legal status: Public Record(s) Closure status: Open Document, Open Description Jordan. On Friday, June 9, 2017 at 11:14:06 PM UTC-4, Jordan Vandenberg wrote: > Good day, > > I have a question about Roger Kelke who was father to Alice Kelke (wife of Robert Tirwhit) that I was hoping someone would be able to answer. > Is this Roger Kelke the same person as the Roger Kelke who married ______ Leyburne (daughter of Henry Leyburne) and had a son William Kelke? > > They seem as though they would be the same age. There are also a number of fines where the Tirwhit's and the Kelke's are found together from around the same period. > > http://medievalgenealogy.org.uk/fines/search.php?s=1&surname=kelke&given=&place=&after=&before=&county=&finecase=&finefile=&finenumber= > > CP 25/1/144/150, number 5: (1395) > Persons: William Kelke; Robert Tirwhit'; Nicholas Tournay; Thomas Ruston'; Joan > Places: Magna Stepyng'; Frisby [Lincolnshire] > > CP 25/1/144/151, number 33: (1401) > Persons: William Kelke; Richard Tirwhit; Robert Tirwhit; Walter de Flynton'; Thomas la Warre > Places: Barnetby; Ketilby; Netilton' [Lincolnshire] > > CP 25/1/290/60, number 68: (1402-1403) > Persons: Thomas Haweley; William Kelke; Robert Tirwhit; John Turnay; Roger de Bernardeston'; William Ingham; Margery > Places: Bernetby; Kedyngton'; Bernardeston'; Kedyngton'; Bernardeston'; Dagenham; Berkyng'; Whetele; Dancastre; Baldirton' [Suffolk. Essex. Yorkshire] > > CP 25/1/144/153, number 7: (1409-1410) > Persons: William Kelke; Robert Tirwhit; Nicholas Tournay; Stephen Burne; Alice > Places: Magna Stepyng; Frysby [Lincolnshire] > > CP 25/1/145/158, number 23: (1435) > Persons: Roger Kelke; Robert Feryby; Patrick Skypwyth'; Agnes > Places: Frothyngham; Bekeby; Wraweby [Lincolnshire] > > CP 25/1/280/159, number 3: (1442) > Persons: William Tirwhit; William Kelke; Thomas Tirwhit; William West; Thomas Kelke; Elizabeth > Places: Beu[er]laco; Beu[er]laco; Beu[er]laci [Yorkshire] > > Any insight would be greatly appreciated. > Thanks, > Jordan Vandenberg.