On 1/06/2017 11:58 PM, Peter Stewart wrote: > > Depending on what the original document actually says, rather than > going by what the modern summary may seem to say, it may not be > necessary to come up with alternative scenarios to the former > conclusion that Berta de Braiose was Walter's mother. The name of > Berta's mother occurs in the Beauchamp family, apparently in the same > generation as Walter, with Matilda who married Robert Marmion - her > son called himself "filius Matillis de belo Campo" (by the way, hardly > suggesting that the "vernacular" form of her name was anything much > like "Maud"). > > Peter Stewart > > Peter Stewart O dear, I was having a "covfefe" moment - apart from not signing twice, I should have written 'her son called himself "filius Matillis de Bello Campo"...' Peter (once is probably enough) Stewart