I have been checking the following early Chancery Proceeding: http://discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk/results/r?_cr=C%201%2F68%2F191&_dss=range&_ro=any&_st=adv The Discovery Catalogue says the date is 1386-1486 (i.e. no date), so yesterday at TNA I obtained a scan of the document. https://www.dropbox.com/s/vcm9aogbtw95g7a/C_1_68_191%20-%20Cliderhowe%20v%20Payne.jpg?dl=0 The scan is not 100% clear, but is about 80% legible, and there appears to be a date (but maybe without a year) on the second line from the bottom, on the left. Can anyone make out this date? Thanks, Wibs
I'm afraid it's a sum of money, Colin. £20 and 10 marks. But the document refers to John Cliderhowe of Swanscombe, one of the clerks of Chancery, which should enable the date to be narrowed down somewhat by external evidence. A quick google suggest he was living in the first decade of the 15th century - but I suspect it is he you're interested in, and want to use this document to get a date for him. Matt -----Original Message----- From: GEN-MEDIEVAL [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Colin Withers Sent: 09 June 2017 18:05 To: [email protected] Subject: Early Chancery Proceeding - Help needed with Date I have been checking the following early Chancery Proceeding: http://discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk/results/r?_cr=C%201%2F68%2F191&_dss=range&_ro=any&_st=adv The Discovery Catalogue says the date is 1386-1486 (i.e. no date), so yesterday at TNA I obtained a scan of the document. https://www.dropbox.com/s/vcm9aogbtw95g7a/C_1_68_191%20-%20Cliderhowe%20v%20Payne.jpg?dl=0 The scan is not 100% clear, but is about 80% legible, and there appears to be a date (but maybe without a year) on the second line from the bottom, on the left. Can anyone make out this date? Thanks, Wibs ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message
On 09/06/2017 18:18, Tompkins, Matthew (Dr.) wrote: > I'm afraid it's a sum of money, Colin. £20 and 10 marks. > > But the document refers to John Cliderhowe of Swanscombe, one of the clerks of Chancery, which should enable the date to be narrowed down somewhat by external evidence. A quick google suggest he was living in the first decade of the 15th century - but I suspect it is he you're interested in, and want to use this document to get a date for him. > > Matt Yes Matt, it is John Cliderhowe I am interested in, the Chancery Clerk. I have finished his biography, with just the exception of a date for this Chancery suit he was involved in. That AALT image is much clearer. I have now lost confidence in the document camera in the Map Room. The model specs give it a very high resolution, but the staff must have set it much lower, as I get slightly fuzzy images consistently. Thanks Colin