On Sunday, June 11, 2017 at 1:40:18 AM UTC-4, John Higgins wrote: ... > I don't disagree that the Tyrwhit and Kelke families had a close relationship - including quite possibly the marriage of a Kelke daughter to Robert Tyrwhit the justice. However, the Tyrwhit and Kelke pedigrees in "Lincolnshire Pedigrees" disagree as to the identification of this daughter. The Tyrwhit pedigree says she was Anne, dau. of SIR Roger Kelke of Kelke, while the Kelke pedigree says she was Isabell, sister of Roger Kelke of Barnetby. > > All the usual accounts of the Tyrwhit family - including HOP, ODNB, and the 1862 book by Robert Philip Tyrwhitt cited earlier in this thread - appear to have relied solely on the Tyrwhit pedigree while overlooking the Kelke pedigree. However I think the Kelke pedigree offers a solution which is chronologically satisfactory without having to search for a Sir Roger Kelke. Perhaps it's time to recognize that the accounts of the Tyrwhit family are simply wrong in this regard. There are a number of documents that provide information about some of the generations in the Kelke family. For example, in the November 1411 settlement following a loveday confrontation between William Lord Roos and Robert Tirwhit, justice of the King's Bench, and his men, it was ordered that "Furthermore, the aforesaid Lord Roos, in the presence of those present, shall publicly forgive the aforesaid Robert and all the others in the abovesaid party who were assembled at the loveday and who came with the same said Robert, for all their crimes and trespasses; except only four persons, that is to say, Richard Haunsard, knight, William Kelk, Roger Berneston, and Roger Kelk, the son of the aforesaid William; which four persons we ordain that the same Robert shall bring at the direction of the aforesaid Lord Roos to his own castle, the castle of Belvoir, into his presence; so that they too can acknowledge their offence and submit themselves to the same Lord Roos, praying him for grace and mercy." http://www.british-history.ac.uk/no-series/parliament-rolls-medieval/november-1411 Chris Given-Wilson, Paul Brand, Seymour Phillips, Mark Ormrod, Geoffrey Martin, Anne Curry and Rosemary Horrox, eds., _Parliament Rolls of Medieval England_ (Woodbridge, 2005)

The York Medieval Probate Index, 1267-1500, on FindMyPast, states that the will of William Kelk, Esquire, Lord of Barnetby, in Barnetby le Wold, Lincolnshire, was dated 29 Sep 1418 and proved 14 Nov 1419 in the York Prerogative & Exchequer Courts (Reg 18 (Bowet), Folio 372v-373r, held at the Borthwick Institute of Historical Research). The Lincolnshire pedigree, cited earlier in this thread, states that William's will was dated on the feast of St. Mathias 1418. The index, on FindMyPast, states that one can order the will using the the following form: http://www.york.ac.uk/borthwick/remote-services/copying/order-form/ According to the Lincolnshire pedigree of the Kelke family, this is the William Kelke whose sister married Roger Barnardiston and whose daughter married Robert Tirwhit.