On Friday, June 9, 2017 at 3:10:50 PM UTC-4, Jan Wolfe wrote: > One of the sources cited by Mason was B. M. Cotton MS. Vesp. E. ix, fo. 2v. Do we know what this source says? > > While the suit cited by Mason may imply that the widow of William (II) de Beauchamp may have been named Amicia, I didn't see a statement that implied that Amicia was the mother of his sons, as claimed by Mason. A reader kindly sent me a link to the transcription of B. M. Cotton MS. Vesp. E. ix, fo. 2v: http://gallica.bnf.fr/ark:/12148/bpt6k1336043/f569.item It does appear to imply that an Avicia domina de Salewarp was the mother of William de Bello Campo. In the next entry, is Walter confirming the same gift?

On 10/06/2017 6:25 AM, Jan Wolfe wrote: > On Friday, June 9, 2017 at 3:10:50 PM UTC-4, Jan Wolfe wrote: >> One of the sources cited by Mason was B. M. Cotton MS. Vesp. E. ix, fo. 2v. Do we know what this source says? >> >> While the suit cited by Mason may imply that the widow of William (II) de Beauchamp may have been named Amicia, I didn't see a statement that implied that Amicia was the mother of his sons, as claimed by Mason. > A reader kindly sent me a link to the transcription of B. M. Cotton MS. Vesp. E. ix, fo. 2v: > http://gallica.bnf.fr/ark:/12148/bpt6k1336043/f569.item > > It does appear to imply that an Avicia domina de Salewarp was the mother of William de Bello Campo. In the next entry, is Walter confirming the same gift? Yes, this is the "praeceptum" of her son that Avicia referred to in her charter. Apologies for the cross-purpose of my earlier posts, Jan, I didn't receive your much more helpful one until after these were sent. Peter Stewart