On 31-Aug-17 9:53 AM, wjhonson wrote: > On Wednesday, August 30, 2017 at 4:46:31 PM UTC-7, Peter Stewart wrote: >> On 31-Aug-17 9:22 AM, wjhonson wrote: >>> Let's say some eighth generation descendant or Franz, married some ninth generation descendant of Mary. >>> >>> How can I tell if a snippet came through the line from Mary or the line from Franz???? How!!!!! >>> >>> Because you test people who came through Mary but did *not* come through Franz, and you test people who came through Franz and did *not* come through Mary. >> And you establish this by ... a paper trail? >> >> As one of the pigeons who pursue medieval genealogy with NIL interest in >> DNA results of any kind, I find the cultural aspect of relationships >> between people more interesting than the biological. And FAR more >> interesting than their culturally and biologically diffuse and dilute >> connection to modern individuals. >> >> Peter Stewart > I don't. > Personally I think people who use Y-DNA to give "strong evidence" for their "strong paper trail" are misguided, or possibly worse. > > I am more of an advocate for using Autosomal DNA to turn traditional genealogy upside-down. Start with a foundation, then build. If you don't use a paper trail to establish which people "came through Mary but did *not* come through Franz" in order to eliminate cross-relationships for DNA testing, how else do you do this? By ouija board perhaps? Peter Stewart