On Tuesday, August 29, 2017 at 12:19:57 AM UTC+2, wjhonson wrote: > On Monday, August 28, 2017 at 3:07:46 PM UTC-7, Andrew Lancaster wrote: > > On Monday, August 28, 2017 at 6:31:18 PM UTC+2, wjhonson wrote: > > > > > However to *rely* on Y testing *alone* is the task of a foolish person > > > > ...Who quite possibly does not exist. I have in any case never heard of any person arguing that genealogists should use Y DNA alone. > > > I'm saying Y *and* Autosomal > Not Y and a paper trail I think that is also how I understood you. Let me re-phrase to make sure: "I have never heard of any person arguing that genealogists should, with regard to genetic testing, use Y DNA alone". I am saying your original comment about patriarchal people is directed against a "straw man". This patriarchal Y DNA movement is presumably living in the same virtual world where there is a big movement to ban people saying "Merry Christmas". :)