On Tuesday, August 15, 2017 at 7:41:14 PM UTC-4, John Higgins wrote: > On Tuesday, August 15, 2017 at 12:29:05 PM UTC-7, deca...@aol.com wrote: > > On Tuesday, August 15, 2017 at 2:12:51 PM UTC-4, Paulo Canedo wrote: > > > Em terça-feira, 15 de agosto de 2017 17:16:35 UTC+1, wjhonson escreveu: > > > > On Monday, August 14, 2017 at 7:53:27 PM UTC-7, deca...@aol.com wrote: > > > > > On Monday, August 14, 2017 at 5:08:10 PM UTC-4, wjhonson wrote: > > > > > > Sure is a good thing you didn't include all those pesky dates since it's patently obvious your bad dates are fictions > > > > > > > > > > It's patently obvious you don't make any sense at all! > > > > > > > > Over and over you've been shown that making up birth years when we have no such documentation is a logical failure on your part. Your response is to insult people. > > > > > > > > What a world! > > > > > > Perhaps they are educated guesses. > > > > Paulo, > > > > The above pedigree of Diana, Princess of Wales which includes the dates assigned to the twenty generations were constructed by genealogical researchers working for the Yeo Society. I previously stated that in the original post. If you want to check out their sources, you can here: > > > > http://www.yeosociety.com/yeoroots/grenvilletreetowill.htm > > > > > Cheers ~ > > LE (aka Deca) > > How exactly can you "check out their sources" on this website? I see no sources at all there for this pedigree. Perhaps you could point out for us where they provide their sources...?? > > And here's one obvious date error in the pedigree you posted assuming it was accurate. "10 Sir John Grenville 1623-" is actually (per CP 2:20-21) Sir John Granville, 1st Earl of Bath, who was born 29 Aug 1628 [not 1623]. I never stated that they listed all of their sources. Some sources are listed within their articles such as Visitation Pedigrees. However, if you wanted specific sources for the above pedigree, you can contact their genealogist. I do not represent the Yeo Society and while there may be a few minor date discrepancies in the above pedigree depending upon the source, the substance of their work is fairly accurate.
Dear Deca ~ You probably would be interested in a Common Pleas lawsuit dated 1314 involving Sir Bartholomew de Grenville, Knt., and his wife, Anne. As you are probably aware, Bartholomew and his wife are the grandparents of your Sir Thebaud de Grenville, Knt. Below is a brief abstract of this lawsuit. In Hilary term 1314 Bartholomew de Greynvill and Anne his wife sued Geoffrey Dabitot in the Common of Common Pleas in a Gloucestershire plea regarding a tenement in Compton Greynvill, Gloucestershire. Reference: Court of Common Pleas, CP40/204, image 217f (available at http://aalt.law.uh.edu/E2/CP40no204/aCP40no204fronts/IMG_0217.htm). I should point out that Vivian, Visitations of Cornwall (1887): 190–197 (Grenvile ped.) identifies the wife of Bartholomew de Grenville as "Johanna, fil. Sr. Viell Vivion, militis [She is called Anne in some pedigrees]." As we can see, Bartholomew's wife is clearly called Anne, not Joan, in the 1314 lawsuit. Best always, Douglas Richardson, Salt Lake City, Utah
On Tuesday, August 15, 2017 at 10:58:11 PM UTC-4, deca...@aol.com wrote: > On Tuesday, August 15, 2017 at 7:41:14 PM UTC-4, John Higgins wrote: > > On Tuesday, August 15, 2017 at 12:29:05 PM UTC-7, deca...@aol.com wrote: > > > On Tuesday, August 15, 2017 at 2:12:51 PM UTC-4, Paulo Canedo wrote: > > > > Em terça-feira, 15 de agosto de 2017 17:16:35 UTC+1, wjhonson escreveu: > > > > > On Monday, August 14, 2017 at 7:53:27 PM UTC-7, deca...@aol.com wrote: > > > > > > On Monday, August 14, 2017 at 5:08:10 PM UTC-4, wjhonson wrote: > > > > > > > Sure is a good thing you didn't include all those pesky dates since it's patently obvious your bad dates are fictions > > > > > > > > > > > > It's patently obvious you don't make any sense at all! > > > > > > > > > > Over and over you've been shown that making up birth years when we have no such documentation is a logical failure on your part. Your response is to insult people. > > > > > > > > > > What a world! > > > > > > > > Perhaps they are educated guesses. > > > > > > Paulo, > > > > > > The above pedigree of Diana, Princess of Wales which includes the dates assigned to the twenty generations were constructed by genealogical researchers working for the Yeo Society. I previously stated that in the original post. If you want to check out their sources, you can here: > > > > > > http://www.yeosociety.com/yeoroots/grenvilletreetowill.htm > > > > > > > > Cheers ~ > > > LE (aka Deca) > > > > How exactly can you "check out their sources" on this website? I see no sources at all there for this pedigree. Perhaps you could point out for us where they provide their sources...?? > > > > And here's one obvious date error in the pedigree you posted assuming it was accurate. "10 Sir John Grenville 1623-" is actually (per CP 2:20-21) Sir John Granville, 1st Earl of Bath, who was born 29 Aug 1628 [not 1623]. > > I never stated that they listed all of their sources. Some sources are listed within their articles such as Visitation Pedigrees. However, if you wanted specific sources for the above pedigree, you can contact their genealogist. I do not represent the Yeo Society and while there may be a few minor date discrepancies in the above pedigree depending upon the source, the substance of their work is fairly accurate. Descents from William Grenville and Philippa Bonville also appear on Genealogics. It appears the line to Princess Diana holds up, and I'm apparently a descendant myself. http://genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00113921&tree=LEO
On Saturday, August 26, 2017 at 8:20:57 PM UTC-4, Katherine Kennedy wrote: > Descents from William Grenville and Philippa Bonville also appear on Genealogics. It appears the line to Princess Diana holds up, and I'm apparently a descendant myself. > http://genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00113921&tree=LEO You bet it holds up. The only real date discrepancy is where we find: 1 William Grenville 1402 - 1449 It should read, "1 William Grenville (by 1381 - 1450)", [as William's father, Sir Theobald Grenville, died by 26 July 1381, and Roger Granville states in 'The History of the Granville Family' that William Grenville was still alive by the time of a deed dated 27th Henry VI. (1449)]