Dear John ~ Like you, I'm also a descendant of Humphrey Poyntz, Esq., who died in 1487. For your interest, I've copied below my current file account of him. This is an expanded account of what I previously published in my Royal Ancestry book (5 volume set) or my Magna Carta Ancestry book (4 volume set). Best always, Douglas Richardson, Salt Lake City, Utah + + + + + + + + + + HUMPHREY POYNTZ, Esq., of Langley (in High Bickington) and Umberleigh, Devon, Elkstone, Gloucestershire, and, in right of his wife, of East Anstey (or Ansty Cruse) and Over Woolacombe (in Mortehoe), Devon, Escheator of Devonshire, 1460–61, younger son by his father’s 1st marriage. He married before Hilary term 1458 (date of lawsuit) ELIZABETH POLLARD, daughter and heiress of Richard Pollard, of Langley (in High Bickington), Devon, and, in right of his wife, of East Anstey and Over Woolacombe (in Mortehoe), Devon, by Thomasine, daughter and co-heiress of Robert Cruse (or Cruys). They had two sons, Nicholas and William, and one daughter, Katherine (wife of Fulk Prideaux). In 1458 he sued Dennis Moppe, of West Worcombe, Devon, husbandman, and three others in the Court of Common Pleas regarding a trespass at Mortehoe, Devon. In 1472 he sued Henry Dunslegh, of East Anstey, Devon, husbandman in the Court of Common Pleas regarding a debt of £8. In 1474 John Cruys sued Humphrey and his wife, Elizabeth, for an illegal entry into the manors of Cruwys Morchard and Rackenford, Devon. In 1480 he leased messuages, lands, etc. in Northcote and Codlemore (in Bittadon), Devon from Walter Halle. The same year he and his wife, Elizabeth, John Prous, and John Chalvedon sued John Cruys for an unjust disseisin in Woolacombe, Anstey Cruwys [East Anstey], Cruys Sydeham, and Little Rackenford, Devon. On 23 April 1486 he and his wife, Elizabeth, settled a moiety of the manor of Over Woolacombe (in Mortehoe), Devon on themselves for life, with remainder to Fulk Prideaux, Esq., and his wife, Katherine (daughter of the said Humphrey and Elizabeth) and the heirs of Katherine. HUMPHREY POYNTZ, Esq., died 10 October 1487. In 1510 John Forde and Robert Loty, executors of the will of Elizabeth Poyntz, sued Richard Reigne [Reigny], John Berry, of Collaton, Devon, and Patrick Pollard in the Court of Common Pleas regarding replevin. References: Pole, Colls. towards a Desc. of Devon (1791): 420 (East Ansty, a Pollard & Cruse fam. property). Fosbrooke, Abstracts of Recs. & MSS respecting the County of Gloucester 2 (1807): 525–526. Berry, County Gens.: Sussex Fams. (1830): 351–353 (Poyntz ped.). Burke, Hist. of the Commoners 3 (1836): 537–540 (sub Poyntz). St. George & Lennard, Vis. of Devon 1620 (H.S.P. 6) (1872): 215 (Pollard ped.) (Pollard arms: Argent, a chevron sable, charged with a mullet for difference, between three escallops gules). Fourth Rpt. (Hist. MSS Comm. 3) (1874): 378. Colby, Vis. of Devon 1564 (1881): 175–176 (Pridieulx ped.). Chitting & Phillipot, Vis. of Gloucester 1623, 1569 & 1582–3 (H.S.P. 21) (1885): 128–129 (Poyntz ped.: “Humffrey Pointes m. to …. Pollard.”), 130–135 (Poyntz ped.: “Humfridus Poyntz ob. Ao 3. H. 7. = …. filia et heires …. Pollard.”). Maclean, Hist. & Gen. Mem. of the Fam. of Poyntz (1886): 94–95, 256. Trans. Bristol & Gloucs. Arch. Soc. 12 (1888): 123–169. Vivian, Vis. of Devon 1531, 1564 & 1620 (1895): 59 (Beare ped.): 597–599 (Pollard ped.). Feudal Aids 1 (1899): 467, 468. Procs. Bath Natural Hist. & Antiq. Field Club 9 (1901): 62. Wrottesley Peds. from the Plea Rolls (1905): 408–409, 435, 452. Papal Regs.: Letters 9 (1912): 242. Devon & Cornwall Notes & Queries 13 (1925): 134–137. C.F.R. 19 1452–1461 (1939): 39–40; 22 1485–1509 (1963): 69, 84. Lacy, Reg. of Edmund Lacy 3 (Devon & Cornwall Rec. Soc. n.s. 13) (1967): 207–208. List of Escheators for England & Wales (List & Index Soc. 72) (1971): 36. Richardson, Agnes [Harris] Spencer Edwards (1987). Court of Common Pleas, CP40/788, image 1509d (available at http://aalt.law.uh.edu/AALT1/H6/CP40no788/bCP40no788dorses/IMG_1509.htm). Court of Common Pleas, CP40/841, image 427f (available at http://aalt.law.uh.edu/AALT2/E4/CP40no841/aCP40no841fronts/IMG_0427.htm). Court of Common Pleas, CP40/852, image 844f (available at http://aalt.law.uh.edu/AALT2/E4/CP40no852/aCP40no852fronts/IMG_0844.htm). Court of Common Pleas, CP40/853, image 290f (available at http://aalt.law.uh.edu/AALT2/E4/CP40no853/aCP40no853fronts/IMG_0290.htm). Court of Common Pleas, CP40/874, image 773f (available at http://aalt.law.uh.edu/AALT3/E4/CP40no874/aCP40no874fronts/IMG_0773.htm). Court of Common Pleas, CP40/990, image 433f (available at http://aalt.law.uh.edu/AALT2/H8/CP40no990/aCP40no990fronts/IMG_0433.htm). National Archives, CP 25/1/46/93, #1 (fine dated 23 April 1486 — Humphrey Poyntz, Esq., and Elizabeth, his wife, deforciants) [see abstract of fine at http:// www.medievalgenealogy.org.uk/index.html]. North Devon Rec. Office: Barnstaple Borough, B1/A63; B1/A68 (available at http://discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk).

On Thursday, 24 August 2017 14:36:43 UTC+1, Douglas Richardson wrote: > Dear John ~ > > Like you, I'm also a descendant of Humphrey Poyntz, Esq., who died in 1487. For your interest, I've copied below my current file account of him. This is an expanded account of what I previously published in my Royal Ancestry book (5 volume set) or my Magna Carta Ancestry book (4 volume set). > > Best always, Douglas Richardson, Salt Lake City, Utah > > + + + + + + + + + + > > HUMPHREY POYNTZ, Esq., of Langley (in High Bickington) and Umberleigh, Devon, Elkstone, Gloucestershire, and, in right of his wife, of East Anstey (or Ansty Cruse) and Over Woolacombe (in Mortehoe), Devon, Escheator of Devonshire, 1460–61, younger son by his father’s 1st marriage. He married before Hilary term 1458 (date of lawsuit) ELIZABETH POLLARD, daughter and heiress of Richard Pollard, of Langley (in High Bickington), Devon, and, in right of his wife, of East Anstey and Over Woolacombe (in Mortehoe), Devon, by Thomasine, daughter and co-heiress of Robert Cruse (or Cruys). They had two sons, Nicholas and William, and one daughter, Katherine (wife of Fulk Prideaux). In 1458 he sued Dennis Moppe, of West Worcombe, Devon, husbandman, and three others in the Court of Common Pleas regarding a trespass at Mortehoe, Devon. In 1472 he sued Henry Dunslegh, of East Anstey, Devon, husbandman in the Court of Common Pleas regarding a debt of £8. In 1474 John Cruys sued Humphrey and his wife, Elizabeth, for an illegal entry into the manors of Cruwys Morchard and Rackenford, Devon. In 1480 he leased messuages, lands, etc. in Northcote and Codlemore (in Bittadon), Devon from Walter Halle. The same year he and his wife, Elizabeth, John Prous, and John Chalvedon sued John Cruys for an unjust disseisin in Woolacombe, Anstey Cruwys [East Anstey], Cruys Sydeham, and Little Rackenford, Devon. On 23 April 1486 he and his wife, Elizabeth, settled a moiety of the manor of Over Woolacombe (in Mortehoe), Devon on themselves for life, with remainder to Fulk Prideaux, Esq., and his wife, Katherine (daughter of the said Humphrey and Elizabeth) and the heirs of Katherine. HUMPHREY POYNTZ, Esq., died 10 October 1487. In 1510 John Forde and Robert Loty, executors of the will of Elizabeth Poyntz, sued Richard Reigne [Reigny], John Berry, of Collaton, Devon, and Patrick Pollard in the Court of Common Pleas regarding replevin. > > References: Pole, Colls. towards a Desc. of Devon (1791): 420 (East Ansty, a Pollard & Cruse fam. property). Fosbrooke, Abstracts of Recs. & MSS respecting the County of Gloucester 2 (1807): 525–526. Berry, County Gens.: Sussex Fams. (1830): 351–353 (Poyntz ped.). Burke, Hist. of the Commoners 3 (1836): 537–540 (sub Poyntz). St. George & Lennard, Vis. of Devon 1620 (H.S.P. 6) (1872): 215 (Pollard ped.) (Pollard arms: Argent, a chevron sable, charged with a mullet for difference, between three escallops gules). Fourth Rpt. (Hist. MSS Comm. 3) (1874): 378. Colby, Vis. of Devon 1564 (1881): 175–176 (Pridieulx ped.). Chitting & Phillipot, Vis. of Gloucester 1623, 1569 & 1582–3 (H.S.P. 21) (1885): 128–129 (Poyntz ped.: “Humffrey Pointes m. to …. Pollard.”), 130–135 (Poyntz ped.: “Humfridus Poyntz ob. Ao 3. H. 7. = …. filia et heires …. Pollard.”). Maclean, Hist. & Gen. Mem. of the Fam. of Poyntz (1886): 94–95, 256. Trans. Bristol & Gloucs. Arch. Soc. 12 (1888): 123–169. Vivian, Vis. of Devon 1531, 1564 & 1620 (1895): 59 (Beare ped.): 597–599 (Pollard ped.). Feudal Aids 1 (1899): 467, 468. Procs. Bath Natural Hist. & Antiq. Field Club 9 (1901): 62. Wrottesley Peds. from the Plea Rolls (1905): 408–409, 435, 452. Papal Regs.: Letters 9 (1912): 242. Devon & Cornwall Notes & Queries 13 (1925): 134–137. C.F.R. 19 1452–1461 (1939): 39–40; 22 1485–1509 (1963): 69, 84. Lacy, Reg. of Edmund Lacy 3 (Devon & Cornwall Rec. Soc. n.s. 13) (1967): 207–208. List of Escheators for England & Wales (List & Index Soc. 72) (1971): 36. Richardson, Agnes [Harris] Spencer Edwards (1987). Court of Common Pleas, CP40/788, image 1509d (available at http://aalt.law.uh.edu/AALT1/H6/CP40no788/bCP40no788dorses/IMG_1509.htm). Court of Common Pleas, CP40/841, image 427f (available at http://aalt.law.uh.edu/AALT2/E4/CP40no841/aCP40no841fronts/IMG_0427.htm). Court of Common Pleas, CP40/852, image 844f (available at http://aalt.law.uh.edu/AALT2/E4/CP40no852/aCP40no852fronts/IMG_0844.htm). Court of Common Pleas, CP40/853, image 290f (available at http://aalt.law.uh.edu/AALT2/E4/CP40no853/aCP40no853fronts/IMG_0290.htm). Court of Common Pleas, CP40/874, image 773f (available at http://aalt.law.uh.edu/AALT3/E4/CP40no874/aCP40no874fronts/IMG_0773.htm). Court of Common Pleas, CP40/990, image 433f (available at http://aalt.law.uh.edu/AALT2/H8/CP40no990/aCP40no990fronts/IMG_0433.htm). National Archives, CP 25/1/46/93, #1 (fine dated 23 April 1486 — Humphrey Poyntz, Esq., and Elizabeth, his wife, deforciants) [see abstract of fine at http:// www.medievalgenealogy.org.uk/index.html]. North Devon Rec. Office: Barnstaple Borough, B1/A63; B1/A68 (available at http://discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk). Greetings Douglas Many thanks for the notes concerning our mutual ancestor, Humphrey. I will read these with interest. Your publications have been frequently quoted to me. However, they are not available in the UK and the nearest library copy is in Baltimore, USA. Whilst many Hitchins/Richins etc family members emigrated to the USofA, particularly with the Church of Latter Day Saints, I do not have any US ancestors. It has been suggested that one family member, a Hitchens, in c16 emigrated to Delaware and married a local Nantichoke woman. The experts at WikiTree advised me that we do have at least one area of difference in the Poyntz ancestry. I do not know whether this is so as these experts did not produce any evidence. The upshot of the claim was that I was banned from WikiTree for disagreeing with you. This was, for me, an event producing such trauma that it is unlikely that I will ever recover. I am a hobby genealogist since 1972, so I am not so well organised as your goodself. I am well behind in documenting the recent Poyntz work by myself and another family member. I will get that up to date and respond to your notes. It is probably most appropriate that I do so directly to your e-mail address as above? Regards John