On Wednesday, May 31, 2017 at 1:41:50 AM UTC+1, [email protected] wrote: > On Tuesday, May 30, 2017 at 6:58:55 PM UTC-4, Doug Thompson wrote: > > <snip> That Bertha was a daughter of William de Braose and Maud de St Valery and that she married William Beauchamp (d 1197). > <snip> > > This indicates that Bertha married Walter de Beauchamp, still alive then, not his father William! > > Wow! Great find. Hugh de Mortimer died Nov 1227 so this fine was only months before his death. If Bertha was a wife of Walter de Beauchamp then it was a wife between Joane Mortimer (died 1225) and his surviving wife Ankarat (married by 1256, survived to 1280s). > --Joe C Not that simple I'm afraid. One or both of these other wives will probably have to be discarded. The evidence for their marriages will have to be reassessed. May take a while. Doug