On Friday, May 19, 2017 at 7:04:59 AM UTC+1, [email protected] wrote: > I have just read the 2006 postings on Sir John Hawkwood which are interesting to me because they mention castle Hedingham and the De Veres. John De Liston was supposed to have trained John Hawkwood and it is believed they were probably family. I trace my name back to the marriage of John Alliston and Rachel Fyrmyn in Sudbury 1606 and I think John was the son of John Alliston And Mary Payne from Castle Hedingham who married in Castle Hedingham 1577 ( the 1578 births page in ST Nicholas church have been destroyed so I cannot confirm ). When I did a DNA match both the De Vere and Liston names came up which following on from the earlier post does suggest that they Hawkwood, De Vere , Liston and now Alliston all had family connections. My Liston match had a time to common ancestor of between 600 and 900 years and he was from Edinburgh Scotland. The family is mentioned in the book https://archive.org/details/memoirsofmyances00mcca which says they came up down from Essex at the time of William I. Liston is a village near Sudbury and the Liston family held the manor there until the mid 1300's, They held it from De Vere.