On Wednesday, July 30, 2003 at 11:03:30 AM UTC-4, Douglas Richardson wrote: > Dear Newsgroup ~ > > The following is a new royal descent from King Henry II through the > Longford and Neville families which goes down to two colonial > immigrants, namely Thomas Bressey, of New England, and Elizabeth > Butler (or Boteler), wife of William Claiborne, of Virginia. The > documentation for this line will appear in my forthcoming book, > Plantagenet Ancestry. Please contact me privately at my e-mail > address below for information regarding ordering the book. > > There are doubtless other colonial immigrants who descend from the > Longford and Neville families covered below. If anyone has > information on such descents, I'd appreciate if they would post a > brief summary here on the newsgroup. > > Best always, Douglas Richardson, Salt Lake City, Utah > > E-mail: [email protected] > > > I. THOMAS BRESSEY LINE > > l. HENRY II, King of England, by a mistress, IDA _____. > > 2. WILLIAM LONGESPÉE, Knt., Earl of Salisbury, married ELA OF > SALISBURY. > > 3. IDA LONGESPÉE, married WALTER FITZ ROBERT, Knt., Baron of Little > Dunmow, Essex. > > 4. ELA FITZ WALTER, married WILLIAM DE ODDINGSELES, Knt., of Solihull, > co. Warwick. > > 5. IDA DE ODDINGSELES, married ROGER DE HERDEBURGH, Knt., of > Prilleston, Norfolk. > > 6. ELA DE HERDEBURGH, married WILLIAM LE BOTELER (or LE BOTILLER), > Knt., of Wem, co. Salop. > > 7. ALICE LE BOTELER, married NICHOLAS DE LONGFORD, Knt., of Longford, > co. Derby. > > 8. NICHOLAS DE LONGFORD, Knt., of Longford, co. Derby, married ALICE > DEINCOURT. > > 9. NICHOLAS LONGFORD, Knt., of Longford, co. Derby, married MARGERY > (or MARGARET) SULNEY. > > 10. ALICE LONGFORD, married ROBERT NEVILLE, Esq., of Rolleston, co. > Nottingham. > > 11. THOMAS NEVILLE, Esq., of Rolleston, co. Nottingham, married > ELIZABETH BABINGTON. > > 12. WILLIAM NEVILLE, Esq., of Rolleston, co. Nottingham, and Holt, co. > Leicester, married KATHERINE PALMER. > > 13. THOMAS NEVILLE, Esq., of Holt, co. Leicester, married ISABEL > GRIFFIN. > > 14. THOMAS NEVILLE, of Cotterstock and Cottingham, co. Northampton, > married ALICE WAUTON. > > Children of Thomas Neville, by Alice Wauton: > i. JANE NEVILLE [see next]. > ii.ANNE NEVILLE, married JOHN SAINT JOHN, Knt., of Bletsoe and > Keysoe, co. Bedford [see BUTLER-CLAIBORNE line]. > > 15. JANE NEVILLE, married WILLIAM CHAMBERLAIN (alias SPICER), of > Normanton-on-Soar, co. Nottingham. > > 16. AMPHYLLIS CHAMBERLAIN, married THOMAS SHEPPARD, Gent., of Maulden, > Hockliffe, and Littlecote (in Stewkley), co. Bedford. > > 17. CONSTANCE SHEPPARD, married EDMUND BRESSEY, Gent., of Maulden and > Wootton, co. Bedford. > > 18. THOMAS BRESSEY, baptized at Maulden, co. Bedford 8 Nov. 1601, 2nd > son, linen draper of London, immigrated to New England with his 2nd > wife in 1634 (in 1641 styled in London as "Thomas Brasey, > linen-draper, in New England"), died before 1648. He married (1st) at > London by license dated 30 Jan. 1626/7 HANNAH HART. He married (2nd) > at St. Lawrence Jewry, London 4 Aug. 1631 PHEBE BISBY, daughter of > William Bisby, of London. Reference: NEHGR 112 (1958): 42–44. > > - - - - - - - - - - - - - - > II. BUTLER-CLAIBORNE LINE > > 14. THOMAS NEVILLE, of Cotterstock and Cottingham, co. Northampton, > married ALICE WAUTON (see above for earlier generations). > > 15. ANNE NEVILLE, married JOHN SAINT JOHN, Knt., of Bletsoe and > Keysoe, co. Bedford. > > 16. CRESSETT SAINT JOHN, married JOHN BUTLER (or BOTELER), Esq., of > Tofte and Lorings (both in Sharnbrook), and Souldrop, co. Bedford. > > 17. JOHN BUTLER(or BOTELER), Esq., of Little Birch, Essex, married > JANE ELLIOTT. > > 18. ELIZABETH BUTLER (or BOTELER), born before 1612, living 1 March > 1668/9, married about 1635 WILLIAM CLAIBORNE, Esq. (living March > 1676/7), of Crayford on Isle of Kent, Cheaspeake Bay, and New Kent, > Virginia, Surveyor of the Virginia Colony, member of the Council, > Treasurer and Secretary of the Colony of Virginia, justice of Accomac, > York & Northumberland Counties, Virginia. > References: N.M. Nugent, Cavaliers and Pioneers 1 (1979): 165. Gens. > of Virginia Fams. from VMHB 2 (1981): 1–70. Gens. of Virginia Fams. > from W&M Q. 1 (1982): 841–842. A.L. Jester, Adventurers of Purse and > Person (1987): 184–191. Just wondering, I have looked all through this line on Geni.com and tried to connect Elizabeth Butler Claiborne to King Henry II and what they have is completely different. Is what is in here more accurate?