On Thursday, May 25, 2017 at 7:27:52 PM UTC+1, Dee Horn wrote: > i have him on my family tree and at the moment am doing corrections on it.  I have done lots of searching and keep getting different info on how many children and who had them so i am going back thru.  also correcting Tyrells and Chilies.  the book i got from my cousin has lots of errors in it. > > > On Tuesday, May 23, 2017 at 5:17:38 PM UTC+1, wjhonson wrote: > > Well then you do understand that all the Y is telling you, is that somewhere in your line, a biological father had a different surname, then you expect him to have. > > > > It doesn't tell you anything about how long ago that occurred. > > Except the surnames have the same origin, Liston and Alliston ( Al Liston) are derived from the manor of Liston in Essex. Other surname variations include Alston, Elliston, Allaston and Austyn.  Names gradually change over the years like Chinese whispers. > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message Sorry I did not mean to give the impression that De Vere and Hawkwood have the same paternal line. All I was highlighting was the fact that Hawkwood did have family connections to those who had connections to the De Veres as well although at different times. John Hawkwood: An English Mercenary in Fourteenth-Century Italy by William Caferro suggests that John Liston may have been an Uncle of Hawkwood. John Liston was the, if so it would be a maternal Uncle. Sir John Liston had sons John and Thomas who fought at Crecy. Sir John Liston was married twice once to Maud and then to Eleanor. His son by Maud was John. Thomas may have been by Eleanor. That means either Eleanor or Maud could have been the sister of the mother of Hawkwood.