On 10-Sep-17 4:02 PM, Peter Stewart wrote: > > Thompson went on to state that 'The whole problem begins to recede, > however, when we take into account the proceedings of the Council of > Reims in 1049'. This is very dubious in my view: Enguerrand of > Ponthieu and Eustace II of Boulogne were both excommunicated by Pope > Leo IX for consanguineous marriages ('Excommunicavit etiam comites > Angilra[mm]i, et Eustachium propter incestum'). Actually it's more dubious than I supposed - Enguerrand II of Ponthieu who married Adeliza of Normandy was not yet a count by the time of the council of Reims in October 1049 (his father did not die until November 1052), and so the man excommunicated by Leo IX for an illicit union was presumably his grandfather Enguerrand I, whose second wife, Adeliva, was the widow of Balduin of Boulogne - her parentage is unknown. Peter Stewart