Em sábado, 18 de fevereiro de 2017 19:03:48 UTC, Jan Wolfe escreveu: > On Saturday, February 18, 2017 at 1:47:59 PM UTC-5, Paulo Canedo wrote: > > Em sábado, 18 de fevereiro de 2017 18:43:34 UTC, Tim Forsythe escreveu: > > > Here is what I have for the Claypools. Ancestral Roots says the mother of Gwladus Dhu is Tangwystl, but I see a lot of line showing Joan of England. Is AR wrong? > ... > > Gwladys's mother is uncertain but it was more likely Joan since Joan gave Gwladys lands. > > Thanks for providing this reason. When were the lands given and under what circumstances? If Gwladys was born after Llewellyn and Joan were married in 1205, it seems that she would have been rather young when she married Reginald de Braose. Are there some documents about that marriage? Reginald was not a young man at the time of the marriage. Sorry for resurrecting an old thread but it is that the two manors which her father Prince Llywelyn had in marriage with her mother Joan were passed to Gwladys' husband Ralph de Mortimer following their marriage.