On Sunday, September 10, 2017 at 1:24:02 PM UTC-7, wjhonson wrote: > On Sunday, September 10, 2017 at 12:19:09 PM UTC-7, wjhonson wrote: > > On Friday, September 8, 2017 at 11:27:37 PM UTC-7, D. Spencer Hines wrote: > > > By some on-line accounts, the superb British actor, Benedict Cumberbatch, > > > has a descent from Edward IV and Edward's mistress, Elizabeth Waite -- > > > making him a 15th great-grandson of Edward IV -- and, of course, a 15th > > > great-grandnephew of Richard III -- rather than just a 2nd cousin, 16 times > > > removed of Richard III. > > > > > > Can anyone here verify that? > > > > > > DSH > > > > > > > > > The line back from Anne Bowes is equidistant from both Edward IV of England and James II of Scotland > > > > The issue then becomes the connecting link from Benedict's known ancestor Caroline Chaloner, back to that specific William Chaloner who is known to have married Mary Finney > > > > If that hundred year gap can be filled with supporting documents, the connection is made > > > I have confirmed that William Chaloner, by his wife Mary Finney, did have a son William Chaloner born 14 Aug 1745, who married Emma Harvey daughter of William Harvey of Chigwell. They married 8 Aug 1771 > > One of their children was a Caroline Chaloner baptised 25 Nov 1788 at Guisborough York > > And then a seperate fact that Abraham Parry Cumberbatch married a woman named Caroline Chaloner. > > However the gap is now the question of whether there is actual documentation which evidences that this Caroline is the same person as that Caroline See the article on the Chaloner family in recent editions of BP.