De ar Jim, what about this royal line to Henry Samson?: Louis IV of France Charles of Laon Gerberge of Brabant Maud de Louvain Lambert of Lens Judith of Lens Matilda of Huntingdon Matilda de Senlis Walter FitzRobert de Clare Alice FitzWalter Hamon Peche Gilbert Pecche Gilbert Pecche Simon Pecche William Pecche Margaret Peche John Latimer Nicholas Latimer Edith Latimer Cicily Greene Elizabeth Page Edmund Cooper Martha Cooper Henry Samson

I once asked about this also, can't remember at the moment if it was on-list, but apparently the breakdown is at the generation of William de Peche (note spelling), father of Margaret (Peche) Latimer. There is no evidence or proof of this William's parentage, being only a by-line as father of Robert Latimer's wife; no identifying places or dates connecting him to Simon and/or Gilbert Pecche. Another possibility perhaps, but no evidence as of yet. Jim+