Em terça-feira, 5 de setembro de 2017 20:14:09 UTC+1, joe...@gmail.com escreveu: > On Tuesday, September 5, 2017 at 2:43:27 PM UTC-4, Paulo Canedo wrote: > > > Dear Joe, could you please give the likely descent from Edward III? I would like to check it. > > The descent is through Thomas Dudley governor of Massachusetts. I believe it is "probable", meaning, more likely than not, but others might say "possible" or less. > > Certainly it is not 'solid' by any means. Which, if it is not proven in the future would leave 64 4x-great grandparents well traced with none leading back to Edward III. > > I am hopeful that a current book in progress will help to clear up some of those issues. > > --Joe C So like many you descend from Thomas Dudley. About Thomas Dudley's descent from Edward III. Thomas Dudley's use of the Sutton-Dudley heralds in his will proves he was descended from them the College of Arms confirmed that Thomas Dudley had right to use them. To me the question is where exactly he belonged in the Sutton-Dudleys. As you know Marshall Kirk made a very good case he was paternal grandson of Henry Dudley and it appears that H. Allen Curtis proved it see http://www.familypage.org/mystdud.pdf and https://web.archive.org/web/20110726045518/http://www.familypage.org/RogerSonoHenry.pdf.

Some corrections to your statements are in order: On Tuesday, September 5, 2017 at 3:52:23 PM UTC-4, Paulo Canedo wrote: "> So like many you descend from Thomas Dudley. About Thomas Dudley's descent from Edward III. Thomas Dudley's use of the Sutton-Dudley heralds in his will proves he was descended from them" -> No, it proves merely that 1) he wanted people to think he was OR 2) he just liked the way they looked OR 3) he was descended from them. "the College of Arms confirmed that Thomas Dudley had right to use them. " -> The College of Arms did no such thing, and anyway statement is as useful as if your uncle Bob had confirmed it. "To me the question is where exactly he belonged in the Sutton-Dudleys. As you know Marshall Kirk made a very good case he was paternal grandson of Henry Dudley and it appears that H. Allen Curtis proved it see http://www.familypage.org/mystdud.pdf and https://web.archive.org/web/20110726045518/http://www.familypage.org/RogerSonoHenry.pdf." As I said, I think it is a very good case, and I think he is probably right on target, but falls short of an absolute 'proof' because it fails (in my opinion) to resolve the conflicting evidence sufficiently to rule out alternatives. --Joe C