To add to the response from Leo van de Pas posting : My matriarchal family line extends back to Guillaume de Balsac. My family tree is available in MyHeritage under BROOKS family. My full name is RENEE LOUISE BROOKS and I live in South Africa. The family tree shows a detailed family line from Guillame's wife to present day - Sept 2017. I have DNA records to share as well from the matriarchal line. Regards Renee Brooks On Friday, April 24, 1998 at 9:00:00 AM UTC+2, Leo van de Pas wrote: > At 03:53 PM 4/22/98 -0700, you wrote: > >Does anyone have this ancestry (or can point me to where I can find it) and > that > >of his wife, Louise, daughter of Jean, Seigneur d'Humieres? > > > >I know they are from the Armagnac and Bourbon lines. My guess is that at least > >one of them is a descendant of Bernard, Comte de Pardiac, Vicomte de Carlat and > >de Murat, Comte de La Marche, Baron d'Angles and de Peyrusse, Seigneur d'Ordan > >and de Biran, Duke de Nemours and his wife Eleonore de Bourbon, Countess de La > >Marche. > For the d'Humieres line I could find nothing but a fair amount for the > de Balsac line. I did find an d'Armagnac connection but not to the one > you hope to find. Hereby an ancestorlist---where numbers are omitted > I don't know the details. > > 1.Guillaume de Balsac, Seigneur d'Entragues et Marcoussins > died 1555 > > 2.Pierre de Balsac, Baron d'Entragues et de Saint-Amand > married > 3.Anne Malet, Dame de Montaigu et du Bois-Malesherbes > died after 14 December 1525 > > 4.Robert de Balsac, Baron d'Entragues et de Saint-Amand > married > 5.Antoinette de Castelnau > > 6.Louis Malet, Seigneur de Graville et de Marcoussis > married > 7.Marie de Balsac > died 23 May 1503 > > 12.Jean VI de Malet, Seigneur de Graville et de Marcoussis > marriage contract dated 27 June 1440 > 13.Marie de Montauban > > 14.Rossec II de Balsac, Senechall de Nimes, Seigneur de Glisenove > married > 15.Jeanne d'Albon > > 24.Jean V Malet, Seigneur de Graville et de Marcoussis > died after 1449 > 25.Jacqueline de Montaigu, Dame de Marcoussis et du Bois-Malesherbes > died 1436 Moncontour > 26.Guillaume, Seigneur de Montauban > died 1432 > married 1414 > 27.Bonne Visconti dite de Milan > died after 1433 > > 50.Jean de Montaigu, Seigneur de Montaigu, de Marcoussis > born 1363 Paris > died 17 October 1409 Paris (beheaded) > 51.Jacqueline de La Grange > > 52.Olivier V, Seigneur de Montauban > 53.Mahaud d'Aubigne, Dame de Landal > > 54.Carlo Visconti, Lord of Parma > born circa 1357 Milano > died 1391 (or 1403) > married 1382 > 55.Beatrice d'Armagnac > > 100.Charles V, King of France 1364-1380 > born 21 January 1337 Chateau de Vincennes > died 16 September 1380 Chateau de Vincennes > mistress : > 101.Biette Cassinel > > 102.Etienne de La Grange > 103.Marie du Bois > > 108.Bernabo Visconti, Lord of Milan, Bergamo, Cremona, Lodi, Bologna > born 1319 Milan > died 18 December 1385 Trezzo (poisoned) > 109.Regina de Salcalle > > 110.Jean II, Comte d'Armagnac > died 26 May 1384 Avignon > married 1359 > 111.Jeanne de Perigord > > Sources : > > Kwartieren van Hendrik III en Willem de Rijke van Nassau, > Geldrop, 1965, by G. F. de Roo van Alderwerelt > > The Lineage and Ancestry of HRH Prince Charles, Prince of Wales, > Edinburgh, 1977, by Gerald Paget > > Cahiers de Saint Louis, > by Jacques Dupont and Jacques Saillot > > Europaischen Stammtafeln, > J.A. Stargart Verlag, Marburg (Schwennicke) > > Hope this helps, > Leo van de Pas

On Tuesday, September 12, 2017 at 2:27:49 PM UTC-3, Re...@silvermoongroup.com wrote: > To add to the response from Leo van de Pas posting : My matriarchal family line extends back to Guillaume de Balsac. My family tree is available in MyHeritage under BROOKS family. My full name is RENEE LOUISE BROOKS and I live in South Africa. The family tree shows a detailed family line from Guillame's wife to present day - Sept 2017. I have DNA records to share as well from the matriarchal line. > Regards > Renee Brooks > > > > On Friday, April 24, 1998 at 9:00:00 AM UTC+2, Leo van de Pas wrote: > > At 03:53 PM 4/22/98 -0700, you wrote: > > >Does anyone have this ancestry (or can point me to where I can find it) and > > that > > >of his wife, Louise, daughter of Jean, Seigneur d'Humieres? > > > > > >I know they are from the Armagnac and Bourbon lines. My guess is that at least > > >one of them is a descendant of Bernard, Comte de Pardiac, Vicomte de Carlat and > > >de Murat, Comte de La Marche, Baron d'Angles and de Peyrusse, Seigneur d'Ordan > > >and de Biran, Duke de Nemours and his wife Eleonore de Bourbon, Countess de La > > >Marche. > > For the d'Humieres line I could find nothing but a fair amount for the > > de Balsac line. I did find an d'Armagnac connection but not to the one > > you hope to find. Hereby an ancestorlist---where numbers are omitted > > I don't know the details. > > > > 1.Guillaume de Balsac, Seigneur d'Entragues et Marcoussins > > died 1555 > > > > 2.Pierre de Balsac, Baron d'Entragues et de Saint-Amand > > married > > 3.Anne Malet, Dame de Montaigu et du Bois-Malesherbes > > died after 14 December 1525 > > > > 4.Robert de Balsac, Baron d'Entragues et de Saint-Amand > > married > > 5.Antoinette de Castelnau > > > > 6.Louis Malet, Seigneur de Graville et de Marcoussis > > married > > 7.Marie de Balsac > > died 23 May 1503 > > > > 12.Jean VI de Malet, Seigneur de Graville et de Marcoussis > > marriage contract dated 27 June 1440 > > 13.Marie de Montauban > > > > 14.Rossec II de Balsac, Senechall de Nimes, Seigneur de Glisenove > > married > > 15.Jeanne d'Albon > > > > 24.Jean V Malet, Seigneur de Graville et de Marcoussis > > died after 1449 > > 25.Jacqueline de Montaigu, Dame de Marcoussis et du Bois-Malesherbes > > died 1436 Moncontour > > 26.Guillaume, Seigneur de Montauban > > died 1432 > > married 1414 > > 27.Bonne Visconti dite de Milan > > died after 1433 > > > > 50.Jean de Montaigu, Seigneur de Montaigu, de Marcoussis > > born 1363 Paris > > died 17 October 1409 Paris (beheaded) > > 51.Jacqueline de La Grange > > > > 52.Olivier V, Seigneur de Montauban > > 53.Mahaud d'Aubigne, Dame de Landal > > > > 54.Carlo Visconti, Lord of Parma > > born circa 1357 Milano > > died 1391 (or 1403) > > married 1382 > > 55.Beatrice d'Armagnac > > > > 100.Charles V, King of France 1364-1380 > > born 21 January 1337 Chateau de Vincennes > > died 16 September 1380 Chateau de Vincennes > > mistress : > > 101.Biette Cassinel > > > > 102.Etienne de La Grange > > 103.Marie du Bois > > > > 108.Bernabo Visconti, Lord of Milan, Bergamo, Cremona, Lodi, Bologna > > born 1319 Milan > > died 18 December 1385 Trezzo (poisoned) > > 109.Regina de Salcalle > > > > 110.Jean II, Comte d'Armagnac > > died 26 May 1384 Avignon > > married 1359 > > 111.Jeanne de Perigord > > > > Sources : > > > > Kwartieren van Hendrik III en Willem de Rijke van Nassau, > > Geldrop, 1965, by G. F. de Roo van Alderwerelt > > > > The Lineage and Ancestry of HRH Prince Charles, Prince of Wales, > > Edinburgh, 1977, by Gerald Paget > > > > Cahiers de Saint Louis, > > by Jacques Dupont and Jacques Saillot > > > > Europaischen Stammtafeln, > > J.A. Stargart Verlag, Marburg (Schwennicke) > > > > Hope this helps, > > Leo van de Pas Sadly, Leo passed away last year. He is utterly missed.