On Tuesday, May 10, 2016 at 12:31:05 PM UTC-7, Michael OHearn via wrote: > In view of past discussion regard Plantagenet Richard's Y-DNA not matching > that of alleged Beaufort Somerset cousins, is the legitimacy question of > John of Gaunt still an issue? If the DNA discrepancy arose from the > circumstances of John's illegitimate parentage, then we could assume that > both Trump and Clinton are of bastardized descent. There never was a legitimacy question regarding John of Gaunt, at least not related to the Richard III DNA result. I tracked this down at the time. In trying to explain the implications of the Y-DNA conflict, a journalist presented as a hypothetical example that had John of Gaunt been son of someone other than Edward III, that would give rise to the result obtained. The choice of John of Gaunt appeared to be entirely arbitrary in this example. From there it was picked up by other journalists (and pseudo-journalists) and as this bounced around the media, it came to be reported as a historical hypothesis - that 'some' suspect John was illegitimate, rather than being just a hypothetical example given for the purposes of explaining the genetic mechanism. taf