On Monday, May 2, 2016 at 1:56:22 PM UTC-7, D. Spencer Hines wrote: > So, George Gordon BYRON 6th Lord Byron & Jane AUSTEN are allegedly 6th > cousins, once removed [as well as 8th, 10th, 12th, 13th, 14th, etc., > cousins, by other common ancestors]: Not 6th cousins, Spencer, as Jane Austen doesn't descend from Sir Andrew Noel - see below. > * Sir Andrew Noel MP > (Cir 1558-1607) > * Mabel Harington > (Cir 1560-1603) > | > ---------------------------------------- > | | > | | > * Edward Noel 2nd Viscount Campden William Eure 4th Baron Eure > (1582-1643) (Cir 1579-1646) > Honourable Juliana Hicks * Lucy Noel > ( -1680) (Cir 1580-1615) > | | > | | > Sir John Chaworth 2nd Viscount Chaworth Sir William Howard of Naworth > (Cir 1608-1644) (Cir 1603-1644) > * Elizabeth Noel * Mary Eure > (1610-1633) (Cir 1602-1638) > | | > | | > William Byron 3rd Lord Byron of Rochdale Jonathan Atkins of Brightling, > Sussex > (1636-1695) (1631- ) > * Elizabeth Penelope Chaworth Baroness Rochdale * Mary Howard > (Cir 1632-1683) ( -1660) > Married 1660 The Byron line thru Chaworth to Noel is correct. Mary Howard, b. c.1622/3 (her parents were married in 1621), eldest daughter of Sir William Howard of Naworth Castle and Mary Eure, married (settlement 17 Nov.) 1642, as his 1st wife, Sir Jonathan Atkins of Grimthorpe Park, Great Givendale, Yorkshire. Mary was bur. 9 Apr. 1660 St Ethelburga Church, Great Givendale. Sir Jonathan d. 8 Jan. 1702 Grimthorpe Park, at the age of 99, per his M.I. in Great Givendale Church. Sir Jonathan and Mary had issue, and are ancestors of the Atkins family of Firville, co. Cork. It's chronologically impossible for this couple to have been the grandparents of John Austen b. 1665. > | | > * William Byron 4th Baron Byron of Rochdale John Austen III of Broadford and > Grovehurst > (1670-1736) (Cir 1629-1705) > Honourable Frances Berkeley * Jane Atkins > (1704-1757) (1638-1686) > Married 1720 Doug Smith pointed out upthread the discrepancy with Jane Atkins born in 1638. Jane, dau. of John Atkins of Brightling, Sussex, was bap. 22 Jan. 1638 St Thomas Church, Brightling. The attempt to make John Atkins of Brightling into Sir Jonathan Atkins of Grimthorpe Park seems to have originated with Jane Austen's nephews, as genealogist Ronald Dunning explains: "Jonathan Atkins and Mary Howard were categorically not the parents of Jane Austen's ancestor Jane Atkins, although many would have it. Jane Austen's nephews the Austen-Leighs made this claim, but it is incorrect. Her gravestone styles her as daughter of John Atkins of Brightling, Sussex, and her baptismal record is in the parish register for Brighling, listing her father John (but not naming her mother). The Sussex County archivists insist that there is no record that associates Sir Jonathan Atkins with Brightling." http://wc.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=janeausten&id=I63 > | | > * Vice Admiral John Byron * John Austen IV > (1723-1786) (1665-1704) > Sophia Trevannion Elizabeth Weller > (Cir 1729-1790) (1671-1721) > Married 8 Sep 1748 > | | > | | > * Captain John Byron British Army * William Austen of Tonbridge > (1756-1791) (1701-1737) > Katherine Gordon 13th Laird of Gight Rebecca Hampson > (Cir 1765-1811) (Cir 1696-1733) > Married 13 May 1785 > | | > | | > * George Gordon Byron 6th Lord Byron * The Reverend George Austen of > Steventon > (1788-1824) (1731-1805) > Cassandra Leigh > (1739-1827) > Married 26 Apr 1764 > | > | > * Jane Austen > (1775-1817) The subsequent generations for both lines are correct. Hope this helps! Cheers, -----Brad
Details of John Atkins of Brightling's family are given here: http://www.thekeep.info/wp-content/uploads/2016/01/Brightling-Tenement-Analysis-Maps.pdf Doug Smith