Hi Joe I believe there are many if I understand your question (and looked at the correct Hugues at Leo's site). Petronille's father was named William and he was grandson of the Hugues (m. Adeliza de Beaumont) you refer to. A start at references for Hugues: DP, 124-125, 262-263. Sanders, I. J., English Baronies: A Study of their Origin and Descent, Oxford, (1960), p 60. Hill, John Harwood, History of the Parish of Langton, (1867) Pedigree of Grentemaisnel. as for Petronille: Cartulary of St-Evroult, ii, fo 33v. Runciman, A History of the Crusades, vol. 1, p 238. David Crouch [The Beaumont Twins, p. 91. Hope this helps, Doug Smith