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    1. Re: Ignorance, False Promises and Pseudoscience: Is This Profit Promotion of DNA Fiction by Senior Genealogists?
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    3. On Sunday, May 29, 2016 at 9:52:50 PM UTC-7, Thomas Milton Tinney, Sr. wrote: > On Sunday, May 29, 2016 at 9:09:32 PM UTC-7, joe...@gmail.com wrote: > > On Sunday, May 29, 2016 at 11:58:26 PM UTC-4, Thomas Milton Tinney, Sr. wrote: > > > Ignorance, False Promises and Pseudoscience: Is This > > > Profit Promotion of DNA Fiction by Senior Genealogists? > > > > > > In 2013, The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints suggested "New Technology Makes Family History Easier, Even Fun", noting "An interesting development in family history research is the use of DNA testing to discover one’s ethnicity." > > > https://www.lds.org/church/news/new-technology-makes-family-history-easier-even-fun?lang=eng > > > > > <snip> > > > > Your conclusions are flawed and the primary reason is that your references are seven to nine years old, which is significant when dealing with new technology. Ancestry.com has built up an enormous database that gives a surprisingly good ethnicity estimate that attempts to reach back about 300-500 years. > > > > I am English, German, French, Italian, Irish, Dutch, etc, etc. and my ethnicity (country of origin, really), percentages for each are extremely accurate on ancestry.com. The same is true for my English, Irish, Polish, French, German, (etc), wife. > > > > They have built up a mathematically significant sized database, and dedicating increasingly larger amounts of processing power (mainly an iterative algorithm) to the problem and making very good progress. > > > > I accept your conclusions were much more accurate in 2007 or 2009. > > --Joe Cook > --------------------------------------------- > REPLY: > Received: 12 Jan 2015 > Accepted: 5 Oct 2015 > Published online: 14 Dec 2015 > > Ethnic and Racial Studies > Volume 39, Issue 2, 2016 > Special Issue: The Impact of Diasporas: Markers of Identity > > In the blood: the myth and reality of genetic markers of identity > > ABSTRACT > . . . statistical methods are nonetheless claimed to be able to predict successfully the population of origin of a DNA sample. Such methods are employed in commercial genetic ancestry tests, and particular genetic signatures, often in the male-specific Y-chromosome or maternally-inherited mitochondrial DNA, have become widely identified with particular ancestral or existing groups, such as Vikings, Jews, or Zulus. . . . We describe the conflict between population genetics and individual-based genetics and the pitfalls of over-simplistic genetic interpretations, arguing that although the tests themselves are reliable, the interpretations are unreliable and strongly influenced by cultural and other social forces. > http://www.tandfonline.com/doi/abs/10.1080/01419870.2016.1105990?journalCode=rers20 > > Surprisingly current and apparently not flawed. Have you actually read this article, (for which they charge $40 unless you have a subscription), or are you just assuming it supports your position based on the Abstract? taf

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