Dear Douglas, I agree entirely with your salient points. Further, I am not proposing the line from James IV, King of Scots, to Donald J. Trump, but simply calling attention to the fact it is an alleged line that is currently floating around in the greater genealogical ether. It's there to be critiqued, poked, probed and then ultimately accepted, rejected or given a Scottish verdict of "Not Proven" -- as warranted Best regards, D. Spencer Hines, Kailua, Hawai'i Fortem Posce Animum Mortis Terrore Carentem Decimus Junius Juvenalis [Juvenal] (ca. 60 A.D. Aquino, Italy - ca. 127 A.D.] Satire X "Douglas Richardson" wrote in message news:46532f05-5644-4924-8f12-f09833feafe5@googlegroups.com... Dear Spencer ~ There is a small problem with the long descent you have proposed for Donald Trump from James IV, King of Scots. You have listed Donald Trump's 2nd great-grandmother as Catherine Macleaod, born 1809, wife of William MacLeod of Skerray. The online Lewis Yorkshire Wright genealogical database indicates that this woman was called Christine, Christy, and Christina in the 1841, 1851, and 1861 Censuses respectively. See the following weblink: http://wc.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=lewisandothers&id=P2860363471&style=TEXT She is elsewhere called Christian Macleod at the births of at least three of her children, as shown at the Family Search online database. 1. Alexander Mcleod Scotland Births and Baptisms, 1564-1950 birth: Born: 10 May 1830 at STORNOWAY, ROSS AND CROMARTY, SCOTLAND Father: William Mcleod mother: Christian Macleod 2. Angus Macleod Scotland Births and Baptisms, 1564-1950 birth: Born: August 1833 at STORNOWAY, ROSS AND CROMARTY, SCOTLAND Father: William Macleod Mother: Christian Mcleod 3. Catharine Macleod Scotland Births and Baptisms, 1564-1950 birth: Born: February 1840 Christening: 15 September 1840 at STORNOWAY, ROSS AND CROMARTY, SCOTLAND Father: William Macleod Mother: Christian Macleod Given this information, it does not appear that this woman's name was Catherine at all. Rather it appear her name was Christian MacLeod (alternative forms being Christine, Christy, and Christina). One other matter: The same Lewis Yorkshire Wright database identifies Christian Macleod as the granddaughter of John Macleod and his wife, Mary Macritchie, whereas you have her as the granddaughter of Angus MacLeod and Mary MacKay. You're probably correct on this point but this difference in claimed grandparents should still be examined. Best always, Douglas Richardson, Salt Lake City, Utah