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    1. Re: Clarification needed (surname fluidity)
    2. Vance Mead via
    3. I don't think it's possible to decide the father's name based on this. In Ian's example they were sometimes called Kaye alias Gregson and sometimes the other way around. In my case there was someone called first Thomas Ryche, then Ryche alias Kellog, then just Kellog, from the 1470s to the 1490s. And his probable descendants in the 1530s and 40s were called sometimes Ryche alias Kellog and sometimes the other way around. In this case I think that the original name was Ryche and Kellog was the occupation. It might also be that Browne was Pinkering's wife's (or mother's) maiden name. I have read that the alias could be used where a "double barreled" name was later used. Vance

    05/22/2016 09:07:18
    1. Re: Clarification needed (surname fluidity)
    2. Ian Goddard via
    3. On 23/05/16 11:07, Vance Mead wrote: > I don't think it's possible to decide the father's name based on this. In Ian's example they were sometimes called Kaye alias Gregson and sometimes the other way around. In my case there was someone called first Thomas Ryche, then Ryche alias Kellog, then just Kellog, from the 1470s to the 1490s. And his probable descendants in the 1530s and 40s were called sometimes Ryche alias Kellog and sometimes the other way around. In this case I think that the original name was Ryche and Kellog was the occupation. The alias could have been inherited from previous generations. I don't know where this one (also from Kirkburton) starts - possibly before the start of PRs. January 1585-6 George Coggen alias Strynger sonne unto Thomas Coggen alias Strynger was baptised the xiiiith day July 1605 John Goggyn alias Stringer and Anne Belle were maried the xxii day January 1639-40 Elizabeth daughter of William Cockin alias stringer bapt xiith I know that somewhere along the line George's marriage is also listed but the OCR isn't great so I haven't got everything on a quick search, especially as the spelling isn't consistent. The point is that we have 4 individuals spanning several generations sharing the same alias. And here's another gem: Henricus Litle alias Cuthbert et Joha Mathewman alias Archer nuptiati fuerunt xiii die mensis Junii. [1573] There's another odd one part of which I noticed in passing. I'll dig it out this evening. -- Hotmail is my spam bin. Real address is ianng at austonley org uk

    05/23/2016 06:38:10