On Thursday, May 5, 2016 at 1:57:51 PM UTC+10, taf wrote: > I finally found citation for this marriage: > > Emmanuel-Auguste-Dieudonnâe, Count of Los Cases. Le Sage's Historical, > Genealogical, Chronological and Geographical Atlas: Exhibiting All the > Royal Families in Europe . . . (1813). I have been unable to find an > edition accessible online. This was once a very famous work, in various editions and translations, from *Atlas historique, généalogique, chronologique et géographique, par A. Le Sage* by Emmanuel de Las Cases. It is worthless for genealogy, and anyway did not purport to be based on original research. Are you quite sure that this misinformation came from it? The litmus test of a Google search is enough to eliminate "Diwisch II of Sternberg in Bohemia" - this personage turns up in numerous websites but is suspiciously hard to find in published literature. See for instance the welter of nonsense here: http://www.ourfamilyhistories.org/getperson.php?personID=I140431&tree=00 placing the family in Lippe-Detmold, rather than in Moravia where they belonged, and making his eldest son Albrecht I. The actual genealogy of the Sternberg family bears very little resemblance to this fantasy. According to Anton Rolleder in 'Die mährischen Herren von Sternberg', *Zeitschrift des deutschen Vereines für die Geschichte Mährens und Schlesiens* 5 (1901), Albrecht I was a son of Zdeslaus I, the founder of the Sternberg lineage, whose father Diwisch of Diwischau occurs in 1240. Albrecht I was father of Diwisch I who was count from 1305. No names or family origins of these mens' wives seem to be recorded. The book by Las Cases will be in many reference libraries, but I doubt that it can be viewed online since it is available in an extremely expensive re-edition (valued for cartography, not genealogy). It's almost certainly not worth the trouble to seek out a copy. Peter Stewart
On Thursday, May 5, 2016 at 2:01:14 AM UTC-7, Peter Stewart wrote: > On Thursday, May 5, 2016 at 1:57:51 PM UTC+10, taf wrote: > > I finally found citation for this marriage: > > > > Emmanuel-Auguste-Dieudonnâe, Count of Los Cases. Le Sage's Historical, > > Genealogical, Chronological and Geographical Atlas: Exhibiting All the > > Royal Families in Europe . . . (1813). I have been unable to find an > > edition accessible online. > > This was once a very famous work, in various editions and translations, > from *Atlas historique, généalogique, chronologique et géographique, par > A. Le Sage* by Emmanuel de Las Cases. It is worthless for genealogy, and > ? anyway did not purport to be based on original research. Are you quite > sure that this misinformation came from it? Quite sure? no. All I can say is that I found an online genealogy that cites various dates and the marriage of Diwisch and Gisela to this source, as well as using it on the page for Gisela's 'brother' Gaston V (which reinforces my suspicion that her father represents the 11th century Centule V in disguise) but not being able to see the book, I can't be certain they are using the citations properly. > The litmus test of a Google search is enough to eliminate "Diwisch II of > Sternberg in Bohemia" - this personage turns up in numerous websites but > is suspiciously hard to find in published literature. . . . > The actual genealogy of the Sternberg family bears very little resemblance > to this fantasy. I reached the same conclusion after looking at a number of German sources tracing the family back to Diwisch of Diwischau, whom I think was turned into this 'Diwisch II'. I was hoping to see Le Seve's before making an outright accusation of genealogical fraud regarding this pedigree, but that is basically what I am thinking now. taf